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MIKA_OBESSED
17-12-2007, 10:46 PM
This is a thread to discuss the very loved....

JOHN LENNON
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John Ono Lennon, MBE (born John Winston Lennon; 9 October 1940 – 8 December 1980) was an English songwriter, singer, musician, graphic artist, author and peace activist who gained worldwide fame as one of the founders of The Beatles, with Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr. In his solo career, Lennon wrote and recorded songs such as "Give Peace a Chance" and "Imagine".

Lennon revealed his rebellious nature and irreverent wit on television, in films such as A Hard Day's Night (1964), in books such as In His Own Write, and in press conferences and interviews. He channelled his fame and penchant for controversy into his work as a peace activist, artist, and author. Lennon had two sons: Julian, with his first wife Cynthia Lennon, and Sean, with his second wife, avant-garde artist Yoko Ono. During a separation from Ono, Lennon spent almost two years with May Pang in Los Angeles and New York from 1973 to 1975, before returning to Ono.

Lennon was murdered in New York City on 8 December 1980 as he returned home after a recording session. In 2002, respondents to a BBC poll on the 100 Greatest Britons voted Lennon into eighth place. In 2004, Rolling Stone ranked Lennon number 38 on their list of "The Immortals: The Fifty Greatest Artists of All Time"

Early years: 1940-1957
John Winston Lennon was born on 9 October 1940, in the Oxford Street Maternity Hospital in Liverpool, to Julia Lennon (née Stanley) and Alfred "Freddie" Lennon,during the course of a German air raid in World War II.He was named after his paternal grandfather, John 'Jack' Lennon, and Winston Churchill.Freddie was a merchant seaman during World War II, and sent regular pay cheques to Julia, who was living with Lennon in 9 Newcastle Road, Liverpool, although the cheques stopped when Freddie went AWOL.When Freddie eventually came home in 1944, he offered to look after Julia and Lennon, but Julia rejected him.After considerable pressure from her sister, Mary "Mimi" Smith—who contacted Liverpool's Social Services—Julia handed the care of Lennon over to Mimi.In July 1946, Freddie visited Mimi and took Lennon to Blackpool, secretly intending to emigrate to New Zealand with him.Julia found out and found them, and after a heated argument Freddie made the five-year-old Lennon choose between Julia or him. Lennon chose Freddie (twice) and then Julia walked away, but Lennon, crying, followed her. Freddie then lost contact with the family until Beatlemania, when father and son met again.

Throughout the rest of his childhood and adolescence, Lennon lived with his 'Auntie Mimi' and her husband George Smith (who had no children of their own) in a middle class area of Liverpool at 'Mendips' (251 Menlove Avenue). Mimi bought volumes of short stories, and George, who was a dairyman at a local farm, engaged Lennon in solving crossword puzzles and bought him a harmonica.Julia Lennon visited 'Mendips' almost every day and Lennon often visited her at 1 Blomfield Road, Liverpool. Julia taught Lennon how to play the banjo, and played Elvis Presley's records to him.

Lennon was raised as an Anglican, and attended Dovedale County Primary School until he passed his Eleven-Plus exam.From September 1952 to 1957, he attended the Quarry Bank Grammar School in Liverpool, where he was known as a "happy-go-lucky" pupil, known for drawing comical cartoons and making fun of his teachers by mimicking their odd characteristics.

Julia bought Lennon his first guitar in 1957; a Gallotone Champion acoustic. It was an inexpensive model that was "guaranteed not to split", but she insisted it be delivered to her house and not Mimi's.Mimi hoped that Lennon would soon grow bored with music, as she was sceptical of Lennon's claim that he would be famous one day, and often told him, "The guitar's all very well, John, but you'll never make a living out of it."On 15 July 1958, when Lennon was 17, Julia was killed on Menlove Avenue — close to Mimi's house, when struck by a car driven by an off-duty police officer.Her death was a factor in Lennon's friendship with McCartney, who had lost his own mother to breast cancer in 1956.

Lennon failed all his GCE O-level examinations, and was only accepted into the Liverpool College of Art with help from his school's headmaster and Mimi. Lennon met his future wife there, Cynthia Powell, when Lennon was a Teddy Boy.Lennon was often disruptive in class, and ridiculed his teachers by mimicking them, resulting in teachers refusing to have him as a student.Lennon failed his annual Art College exams despite help from Powell, and dropped out before the last year of college.

1957-1960: The Quarrymen and the Silver Beetles
Lennon started The Quarrymen, a skiffle band, in March 1957, while attending Quarry Bank Grammar School.Their first engagement was on 9 June 1957 at an audition for impresario Carroll Lewis, known as "Mr. Star-Maker."A few weeks later, on 6 July 1957, Lennon and The Quarrymen met McCartney at the Woolton Garden fête held at St. Peter's Church.McCartney's father later allowed the Quarrymen to rehearse in his front room at 20 Forthlin Road.During their early friendship Lennon encouraged McCartney to steal cigarettes, sweets, or books from shops, and they found a shared interest in playing jokes on the other band members and on their teachers.It was around this time that Lennon and McCartney started writing songs with each other. The first song that Lennon completed was "Hello Little Girl" when he was 18-years-old, which later became a hit for the Fourmost. McCartney convinced Lennon to allow George Harrison to join the Quarrymen - even though Lennon considered Harrison to be too young - after Harrison played at a rehearsal in March 1958.Harrison joined the band as lead guitarist, and Stuart Sutcliffe—Lennon's art school friend—later joined as bassist.Lennon was considered the leader of The Beatles, as McCartney explained: "We all looked up to John. He was older and he was very much the leader - he was the quickest wit and the smartest and all that kind of thing."

1960-1970: The Beatles
Allan Williams started to manage The Beatles in May 1960 after they had played in his Jacaranda club.A few months later he booked them into Bruno Koschmider's Indra club in Hamburg, Germany.Lennon's Aunt Mimi was horrified when he told her about Hamburg. She pleaded with him to continue his studies, but was ignored.Koschmider reported McCartney and Best for arson after the two attached a condom to a nail in the 'Bambi' and set fire to it. They were deported, as was George Harrison for working under-age.A few days later Lennon's work permit was revoked and he went home by train.The Beatles went back to Hamburg in April 1961, and recorded 'My Bonnie' with Tony Sheridan.

When Lennon was nearly 21 in October 1961, his Aunt Mater (who lived in Edinburgh) gave him 100 pounds, which he spent on a holiday to Paris with McCartney.Julia Baird—Lennon's half-sister—refutes this, saying that the money came from Lennon's mother's insurance policy, which was to be paid out to her children when they were 21-years-old. Julia and Jackie—Lennon's second half-sister—also received money when they reached the age of 21.In April 1962, The Beatles returned to Hamburg to play at the Star-Club, and were told that Sutcliffe had died a few hours before they arrived.This was another shock for Lennon, after losing Uncle George and Julia.

All Lennon-McCartney songs on the first pressing of Please Please Me album (recorded in one day on 11 February 1963)as well as the single "From Me to You", and its B-side, "Thank You Girl", are credited to "McCartney-Lennon", but this was later changed to "Lennon-McCartney".Lennon and McCartney usually needed an hour or two to finish a song; most of which were written in hotel rooms after a concert, at Wimpole Street—Jane Asher's home—or at Cavendish Avenue; McCartney's home,or at Kenwood (Lennon's house).

Lennon was not the first member to leave The Beatles, but did so in September 1969 (Starr had left and returned during 1968, and Harrison left on 10 January 1969 during the filming for Let It Be, but returned after a Beatles' meeting at Starr's house two days later).Lennon agreed not to make an announcement while the band renegotiated their recording contract, but McCartney released a question and answer interview that he had written himself in April 1970, declaring that he was no longer a member of The Beatles.Lennon's reaction when told was, "Jesus Christ! He [McCartney] gets all the credit for it!" Lennon later told Rolling Stone: "I was a fool not to do what Paul did, which was use it to sell a record," and later wrote, "I started the band. I finished it."

In 1970, Jann Wenner recorded an interview with Lennon that was played on BBC in 2005. The interview reveals his bitterness towards McCartney and the hostility he felt that the other members held towards Ono. Lennon said: "One of the main reasons The Beatles ended is because ... I pretty well know, we got fed up with being sidemen for Paul. After Brian Epstein died we collapsed. Paul took over and supposedly led us. But what is leading us when we went round in circles? Paul had the impression we should be thankful for what he did, for keeping The Beatles going. But he kept it going for his own sake."

Lennon later expressed his displeasure with the scant credit he was given as an influence on George Harrison in his autobiography, I Me Mine, and unhappy that McCartney's Beatles songs, such as "Yesterday", "Hey Jude" and "Let It Be" were more covered than his own contributions.Lennon also stated his true feelings about his former band members by saying: "I still love those guys. The Beatles are over, but John, Paul, George and Ringo go on."




Hannah
17-12-2007, 10:48 PM
:wub2::wub2: Now this is a good thread!

John Lennon is, hands down, one of the most influential, amazing people that I can think of. I never knew him, I was not alive at the time of his life OR death, but I still am deeply attached to him, both as a person and an artist.

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 10:50 PM
:blowup:

TWO CAN PLAY THIS GAME.

*runs off and makes George Harrison thread*

Except I'm too lazy... *snaps fingers* HOLLIS, make me a George Harrison thread!

backflip_76
17-12-2007, 10:54 PM
:blowup:

TWO CAN PLAY THIS GAME.

*runs off and makes George Harrison thread*

Except I'm too lazy... *snaps fingers* HOLLIS, make me a George Harrison thread!
But I would never want to take that joy away from you, treacle. He's your man. It should be your thread.

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 10:56 PM
But I would never want to take that joy away from you, treacle. He's your man. It should be your thread.

Good point!

*puts on warrior gear*

I ammmmmmm the warriorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Hannah
17-12-2007, 10:57 PM
There's this woman that lives near me that wrote an article in the town newspaper about how, when she was living in New York, she went to one of John and Yoko's art exhibits and somehow ended up sharing a cigarette with John. She says that she still has the cigarette butt. You have no idea how close I was to looking her up in the phonebook and asking if she could leave it to me after she dies. No joke. She's probably 70 now. I'm glad I didn't, though, because now, I'm not as material about stuff like that, and I really have no interest in owning a cigarette butt, no matter who smoked it.

backflip_76
17-12-2007, 10:58 PM
Good point!

*puts on warrior gear*

I ammmmmmm the warriorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Well I am the walrus. :mf_rosetinted:

backflip_76
17-12-2007, 10:58 PM
There's this woman that lives near me that wrote an article in the town newspaper about how, when she was living in New York, she went to one of John and Yoko's art exhibits and somehow ended up sharing a cigarette with John. She says that she still has the cigarette butt. You have no idea how close I was to looking her up in the phonebook and asking if she could leave it to me after she dies. No joke. She's probably 70 now. I'm glad I didn't, though, because now, I'm not as material about stuff like that, and I really have no interest in owning a cigarette butt, no matter who smoked it.
Call her up and tell her to send it to me!

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 10:59 PM
Well I am the walrus. :mf_rosetinted:

boo boo ba boob?

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:00 PM
There's this woman that lives near me that wrote an article in the town newspaper about how, when she was living in New York, she went to one of John and Yoko's art exhibits and somehow ended up sharing a cigarette with John. She says that she still has the cigarette butt. You have no idea how close I was to looking her up in the phonebook and asking if she could leave it to me after she dies. No joke. She's probably 70 now. I'm glad I didn't, though, because now, I'm not as material about stuff like that, and I really have no interest in owning a cigarette butt, no matter who smoked it.

I'm material!

HOLLIS, curtains please.

*curtains open to reveal massive collection of items George Harrison used before his death*

kk448
17-12-2007, 11:01 PM
boo boo ba boob?

It's coo coo ca chu! :sneaky2: :naughty:

(SARCASM)

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:03 PM
It's coo coo ca chu! :sneaky2: :naughty:

(SARCASM)

I was calling John Lennon a boob.:biggrin2:
In a John Lennon thread!

REBELLLLLL!

Hannah
17-12-2007, 11:04 PM
I was calling John Lennon a boob.:biggrin2:
In a John Lennon thread!

REBELLLLLL!

*punch* :sneaky2:

kk448
17-12-2007, 11:06 PM
I was calling John Lennon a boob.:biggrin2:
In a John Lennon thread!

REBELLLLLL!

Oh duh. I forgot that you were such a rebel Sarie. :doh:

backflip_76
17-12-2007, 11:07 PM
Oh duh. I forgot that you were such a rebel Sarie. :doh:
ZOMG I LOVE YOUR SIGNATURE. (not sarcasm)

kk448
17-12-2007, 11:07 PM
*punch* :sneaky2:

Hannah...now that is not the way we conduct ourselves on the MFC...

Sarie has the right to her opinion that John Lennon is a boob...no matter how wrong she may be.

(Sarcasm - do I even have to put this in this thread?)

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:08 PM
Hannah...now that is not the way we conduct ourselves on the MFC...

Sarie has the right to her opinion that John Lennon is a boob...no matter how wrong she may be.

(Sarcasm - do I even have to put this in this thread?)

We realize you're a sarcastic little pissant.

kk448
17-12-2007, 11:09 PM
ZOMG I LOVE YOUR SIGNATURE. (not sarcasm)

Well, I figured if people don't get jokes or know what sarcasm is, I'd help them out. :naughty:

kk448
17-12-2007, 11:11 PM
We realize you're a sarcastic little pissant.

ZOMG I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT!!!! I AM DEEPLY OFFENDED AND HURT. I'M REPORTING YOU! :mad3: :crybaby: :tears: :sad: (insert other angry/sad smileys here)

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:12 PM
ZOMG I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT!!!! I AM DEEPLY OFFENDED AND HURT. I'M REPORTING YOU! :mad3: :crybaby: :tears: :sad: (insert other angry/sad smileys here)

ROFLLLLLLL reporting me.

Oh God, I'm gonna die.

Hannah
17-12-2007, 11:12 PM
Hannah...now that is not the way we conduct ourselves on the MFC...

Sarie has the right to her opinion that John Lennon is a boob...no matter how wrong she may be.

(Sarcasm - do I even have to put this in this thread?)

No one is allowed to have a wrong opinion here, and her opinion is wrong. :mf_rosetinted: :naughty:

backflip_76
17-12-2007, 11:22 PM
I was watching The Beatles First US Visit DVD today, and I noticed John doing the "mentally handicapped" hand-clapping and foot-stomping. I can't believe it took me three times to notice.

Finkster
17-12-2007, 11:22 PM
I was calling John Lennon a boob.:biggrin2:
In a John Lennon thread!

REBELLLLLL!

Get it right, Sarie! Jeremy's the boob!:sneaky2:

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:24 PM
Get it right, Sarie! Jeremy's the boob!:sneaky2:

Jeremy?

*starts dancing backwards into acid trip background*

*handclaps and highfives with Hollis*

heineken22
17-12-2007, 11:28 PM
Jeremy Hillary Boob P.H.D!

haha, i always thought i was soo cool cause we share names . :bleh:

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:31 PM
Didn't he spell his with two L's though?

Hannah
17-12-2007, 11:31 PM
Who the eff is Jeremy? :blink:

heineken22
17-12-2007, 11:31 PM
psh, so? :mf_rosetinted:

same name, yo.

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:32 PM
psh, so? :mf_rosetinted:

same name, yo.

I thought yours was only one L.

heineken22
17-12-2007, 11:32 PM
Who the eff is Jeremy? :blink:
he's on Yellow Submarine!:roftl:

Finkster
17-12-2007, 11:32 PM
Who the eff is Jeremy? :blink:

Are you serious?
The Yellow Submarine! ^_^ He's a real nowhere man.

heineken22
17-12-2007, 11:32 PM
I thought yours was only one L.
it is.

but like i said, it's still the same name, silly.

Hannah
17-12-2007, 11:33 PM
I've never seen Yellow Submarine. :blink: *sucks at life*

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:33 PM
it is.

but like i said, it's still the same name, silly.

I like people who pronounce them differently, though.
Or people who pronounce 'Sara' differently from 'Sarah'

Finkster
17-12-2007, 11:34 PM
I've never seen Yellow Submarine. :blink: *sucks at life*

*kidnaps you*
You will watch every Beatle movie with me now starting with A Hard Day's Night, Help, Magical Mystery Tour and then Yellow Submarine. :biggrin2:

Hannah
17-12-2007, 11:34 PM
I like people who pronounce them differently, though.
Or people who pronounce 'Sara' differently from 'Sarah'

?! Like "Say-ra" and "Seh-ra" or "Seh-ra and Sah-ra?"

heineken22
17-12-2007, 11:35 PM
I like people who pronounce them differently, though.
Or people who pronounce 'Sara' differently from 'Sarah'
how would you pronounce 'Hilary' and 'Hillary' differently?:blink:

Hannah
17-12-2007, 11:36 PM
*kidnaps you*
You will watch every Beatle movie with me now starting with A Hard Day's Night, Help, Magical Mystery Tour and then Yellow Submarine. :biggrin2:

I've seen AHDN, Help!, MMT and Let it Be, but never YS. I don't know. I was never interested, to tell you the truth. :naughty: My high school art teacher showed it one day, but it was an optional day just for people that needed to make up time, so I didn't go. :naughty:

kk448
17-12-2007, 11:36 PM
I've never seen Yellow Submarine. :blink: *sucks at life*

I've seen Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.



Wait...the Beatles weren't in that. Damn.

kk448
17-12-2007, 11:37 PM
how would you pronounce 'Hilary' and 'Hillary' differently?:blink:

Hil-ARY and hil-LARY

of course.

Finkster
17-12-2007, 11:38 PM
I've seen AHDN, Help!, MMT and Let it Be, but never YS. I don't know. I was never interested, to tell you the truth. :naughty: My high school art teacher showed it one day, but it was an optional day just for people that needed to make up time, so I didn't go. :naughty:

:shocked: But it's a really good one. (I think).
A little odd at first, but aren't all their movies that way?

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:38 PM
?! Like "Say-ra" and "Seh-ra" or "Seh-ra and Sah-ra?"
Like the way you pronounce 'fone' and 'f-own'.:sneaky2:

how would you pronounce 'Hilary' and 'Hillary' differently?:blink:
Hil-ah-ree. Hil-lar-ee.

I've seen Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.



Wait...the Beatles weren't in that. Damn.
LMAO. So close.

Hannah
17-12-2007, 11:39 PM
Hil-ARY and hil-LARY

of course.

Like, 'hilarity' without the 't?' :naughty:

:shocked: But it's a really good one. (I think).
A little odd at first, but aren't all their movies that way?

I'll rent it. :D

Have any of you seen The Rutles? :lmfao:

kk448
17-12-2007, 11:41 PM
LMAO. So close.

I know...it's such a good movie that Peter Frampton says he thinks it killed his career and wished he never did it. :biggrin2:

backflip_76
17-12-2007, 11:42 PM
Like the way you pronounce 'fone' and 'f-own'.:sneaky2:



ROFLLLLLLLLLL. That was so long ago.

heineken22
17-12-2007, 11:43 PM
Hil-ARY and hil-LARY

of course.
yesss, i don't have to be Lary!

Like the way you pronounce 'fone' and 'f-own'.:sneaky2:


Hil-ah-ree. Hil-lar-ee.


LMAO. So close.
seriously. :naughty:

Like, 'hilarity' without the 't?' :naughty:


?
pretty much.

i've heard variations of it.

hil-uh-ree.
hil-air-ee.
hil-ry.

GhostsInTheRadio
17-12-2007, 11:43 PM
ROFLLLLLLLLLL. That was so long ago.

DON'T THINK I DIDN'T REMEMBER! :sneaky2:

heineken22
17-12-2007, 11:49 PM
we had a lengthy discussion about Yoko the other day in seminary...

Finkster
17-12-2007, 11:50 PM
Like, 'hilarity' without the 't?' :naughty:



I'll rent it. :D

Have any of you seen The Rutles? :lmfao:

Omg, I love CHEESE AND ONIONS! :roftl:

kk448
17-12-2007, 11:51 PM
we had a lengthy discussion about Yoko the other day in seminary...

...and what was said about her? I'm interested to find out.

heineken22
18-12-2007, 12:03 AM
...and what was said about her? I'm interested to find out.
well, a lot of the people in my class didn't even know who Lennon was :shocked:
so, i had to explain who he was then who Yoko was.

my teacher doesn't really like her at all, he thinks she's just kind of a nuisance..

this one kid who actually knew who she was thinks she's kind of scary looking. :naughty:

and a person who caught on to the conversation said she "didn't like her since she broke up the beatles."

aand, from then on it was basically me explaining Beatles history.

backflip_76
18-12-2007, 12:05 AM
well, a lot of the people in my class didn't even know who Lennon was :shocked:
so, i had to explain who he was then who Yoko was.

my teacher doesn't really like her at all, he thinks she's just kind of a nuisance..

this one kid who actually knew who she was thinks she's kind of scary looking. :naughty:

and a person who caught on to the conversation said she "didn't like her since she broke up the beatles."

aand, from then on it was basically me explaining Beatles history.

What is wrong with the world?

kk448
18-12-2007, 12:07 AM
Yeah...a lot of people think she broke up the Beatles. My parents don't really care for her either. My mom says she acts like the only one who ever lost a loved one...

Anyway, I can't believe people didn't know who John Lennon was. Thankfully, most people at my school at least know OF him!

MIKA_OBESSED
18-12-2007, 02:27 AM
*bump bump*

Hannah
18-12-2007, 02:34 AM
well, a lot of the people in my class didn't even know who Lennon was :shocked:
so, i had to explain who he was then who Yoko was.

my teacher doesn't really like her at all, he thinks she's just kind of a nuisance..

this one kid who actually knew who she was thinks she's kind of scary looking. :naughty:

and a person who caught on to the conversation said she "didn't like her since she broke up the beatles."

aand, from then on it was basically me explaining Beatles history.

I have a love/hate relationship with Yoko. While I think that John was deeply devoted and in love with her, and that she loved John, I also can't help but feel a bit of dislike when it comes to certain aspects about her, completely disregarding the fact that she's a bit of a kook. From what I've read, she used to be quite abusive to John, and influenced him to do things that would harm himself, like snorting crack, starving himself because she didn't want him to get fat (I think he was actually bulimic), she treated the majority of their marriage after Sean was born as "business." One thing that kind of makes me a bit sad is that, toward the end of his life, John wanted to try for another baby, because he wanted a little girl, and Yoko outright refused, and it made John really depressed. Things like that don't sit well with me, but I do think that she loved John, regardless of her psychotic and harmful tendencies. John was always the loving partner in the relationship, and Yoko was more strict and stern.

GhostsInTheRadio
18-12-2007, 03:01 AM
I don't think he was entirely devoted to her... what about that girl he had an affair with during their marriage?

Hannah
18-12-2007, 03:06 AM
I don't think he was entirely devoted to her... what about that girl he had an affair with during their marriage?

Yoko set them up. :blink: That was bizarre, as well.

I think that John needed that, to be honest. Yoko sent him away with May Pang and made him crawl back to her and beg for mercy. It was a very positive thing, I think, as twisted as it sounds. :blink:

heineken22
18-12-2007, 03:12 AM
What is wrong with the world?
the people around here are only into what music/clothing and such that's new and "cool" now.

they have no clue.

Yeah...a lot of people think she broke up the Beatles. My parents don't really care for her either. My mom says she acts like the only one who ever lost a loved one...

Anyway, I can't believe people didn't know who John Lennon was. Thankfully, most people at my school at least know OF him!
i don't care for her myself, but i don't hate her.
and it really bugged me that i had to explain who he was to people.

i mean, come on!

I have a love/hate relationship with Yoko. While I think that John was deeply devoted and in love with her, and that she loved John, I also can't help but feel a bit of dislike when it comes to certain aspects about her, completely disregarding the fact that she's a bit of a kook. From what I've read, she used to be quite abusive to John, and influenced him to do things that would harm himself, like snorting crack, starving himself because she didn't want him to get fat (I think he was actually bulimic), she treated the majority of their marriage after Sean was born as "business." One thing that kind of makes me a bit sad is that, toward the end of his life, John wanted to try for another baby, because he wanted a little girl, and Yoko outright refused, and it made John really depressed. Things like that don't sit well with me, but I do think that she loved John, regardless of her psychotic and harmful tendencies. John was always the loving partner in the relationship, and Yoko was more strict and stern.
see that kind of bothers me about her.
i know that they both loved each other, but to do that to a person..
well, i don't like it.

MIKA_OBESSED
18-12-2007, 03:35 AM
Yoko set them up. :blink: That was bizarre, as well.

I think that John needed that, to be honest. Yoko sent him away with May Pang and made him crawl back to her and beg for mercy. It was a very positive thing, I think, as twisted as it sounds. :blink:

That's...kinda nice,in a weird,mean way.:blink:

backflip_76
18-12-2007, 04:14 AM
i don't care for her myself, but i don't hate her.
and it really bugged me that i had to explain who he was to people.

i mean, come on!


Yeah, seriously. How do you even begin to explain who John Lennon was? I mean, come on, he's John Lennon. That should be explanation enough. Stupid kids.

kk448
18-12-2007, 04:19 AM
Yeah, seriously. How do you even begin to explain who John Lennon was? I mean, come on, he's John Lennon. That should be explanation enough. Stupid kids.

Yeah...that's what I was thinking. I think I have three teachers at my school who have some sort of Beatles picture up in their room. One teacher has a HUGE picture of the four of them. I want to steal it but I think he'll notice...:naughty:

Hannah
18-12-2007, 04:20 AM
Yeah, seriously. How do you even begin to explain who John Lennon was? I mean, come on, he's John Lennon. That should be explanation enough. Stupid kids.

I'd think it was dumb, but as time goes by, the kids are starting to have parents who were born in the late 60s and early 70s instead of the mid/late 50s like a lot of the young adults of today. It's likely that a lot of their parents didn't grow up listening to the Beatles, and instead were into 70s bands or 80s bands, so they probably didn't introduce them to their children. While I cannot imagine no one knowing who John Lennon was, simply because he is brought up very frequently and has become a major part of pop culture, I can be forgiving with people say, not knowing who George Harrison was. I used to drive my 13 year old niece to soccer practice along with her friend, and I would play the Beatles. My niece's friend said that she had never heard the Beatles before I played it in my car. Her parents were born in the 70s.

backflip_76
18-12-2007, 04:23 AM
Yeah...that's what I was thinking. I think I have three teachers at my school who have some sort of Beatles picture up in their room. One teacher has a HUGE picture of the four of them. I want to steal it but I think he'll notice...:naughty:
Good for your teachers! And you should just try and snatch that poster one day...:naughty:

My cinema professor from this semester loves the Beatles...he's actually the one that started my recent obsession. He showed us a couple clips from A Hard Day's Night, and I fell in love! He carries around a goofy little Beatles bag, and he even teaches a class on the Beatles and popular culture of the 60s...how cool is that? I'm definitely taking that class if I get the chance!

kk448
18-12-2007, 04:24 AM
I'd think it was dumb, but as time goes by, the kids are starting to have parents who were born in the late 60s and early 70s instead of the mid/late 50s like a lot of the young adults of today. It's likely that a lot of their parents didn't grow up listening to the Beatles, and instead were into 70s bands or 80s bands, so they probably didn't introduce them to their children. While I cannot imagine no one knowing who John Lennon was, simply because he is brought up very frequently and has become a major part of pop culture, I can be forgiving with people say, not knowing who George Harrison was. I used to drive my 13 year old niece to soccer practice along with her friend, and I would play the Beatles. My niece's friend said that she had never heard the Beatles before I played it in my car. Her parents were born in the 70s.

Sarie can't.


I get what you mean though. Luckily, I have a parent born in the early 50's and a parent born in the early 60's so I get a little bit of both.

backflip_76
18-12-2007, 04:26 AM
I'd think it was dumb, but as time goes by, the kids are starting to have parents who were born in the late 60s and early 70s instead of the mid/late 50s like a lot of the young adults of today. It's likely that a lot of their parents didn't grow up listening to the Beatles, and instead were into 70s bands or 80s bands, so they probably didn't introduce them to their children. While I cannot imagine no one knowing who John Lennon was, simply because he is brought up very frequently and has become a major part of pop culture, I can be forgiving with people say, not knowing who George Harrison was. I used to drive my 13 year old niece to soccer practice along with her friend, and I would play the Beatles. My niece's friend said that she had never heard the Beatles before I played it in my car. Her parents were born in the 70s.

You're definitely right there. Even my mom who was born in the 50s wasn't into all the Beatlemania...she was only 7 when they first came to the U.S. I guess I just got lucky with a dad who only listens to the oldies stations on the radio, so I always got a good helping of 60s music when I was younger. So even though my parents were never big Beatles fans, I always knew who they were and I knew about the legendary John Lennon.

Hannah
18-12-2007, 04:28 AM
Sarie can't.


I get what you mean though. Luckily, I have a parent born in the early 50's and a parent born in the early 60's so I get a little bit of both.

Yes. :thumb_yello: Both of my parents were born in the early 50s, '53 and '54, but I really didn't get much Beatles from them. My mom loved them and would play them when I was little, but I just don't think my dad listened to music at all. I ask him about it, but he can never come up with a single artist that he liked. :blink:

backflip_76
18-12-2007, 04:32 AM
So here's a funny story for ya: I made my mom watch Help! with me the other night, and in the very first scene with the Beatles (when they are singing Help) John was on the screen, and my mom said, "Now, which one is that? Is that John Lennon?" :roftl: Shows how little she knows about the Beatles.

kk448
18-12-2007, 04:41 AM
Yes. :thumb_yello: Both of my parents were born in the early 50s, '53 and '54, but I really didn't get much Beatles from them. My mom loved them and would play them when I was little, but I just don't think my dad listened to music at all. I ask him about it, but he can never come up with a single artist that he liked. :blink:

My dad was pretty big on the Beatles as well as a lot of rock and roll groups later on. His favorite is Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young. A select few at my school even know who they are. My brother likes that type of music too, and he's the one who got me into Queen (I stole his CD). It was neat...the other day, we were cleaning out our basement and we found a bunch of old records and there were a few Queen ones as well as some Beatles. Too bad our record player broke. :naughty: My mom (is 11 years younger than my dad) is more into the women singers. She loves Olivia Newton-John...and Barbara Streisand (yuck, don't care for her). Though I found out not too long ago my mom was a huge Queen fan, which I thought was cool.

GhostsInTheRadio
18-12-2007, 05:05 AM
Yoko set them up. :blink: That was bizarre, as well.
It doesn't really matter who set them up, the point is that he had "relations" with someone who wasn't his wife. That's not really devotion...

Sarie can't.
Damn right. I spit on people who don't know who George Harrison is.

HOCK-TEW.

Hannah
18-12-2007, 05:18 AM
It doesn't really matter who set them up, the point is that he had "relations" with someone who wasn't his wife. That's not really devotion...

I don't know, I still think so. ...but I'm someone who believes that you can be in mad love with two people at once, so who am I to say? :mf_rosetinted:

GhostsInTheRadio
18-12-2007, 05:23 AM
I don't know, I still think so. ...but I'm someone who believes that you can be in mad love with two people at once, so who am I to say? :mf_rosetinted:

Well you can be madly in love with two people at once... but you can't be devoted entirely to both. That's just common logic.

Hannah
18-12-2007, 05:27 AM
Well you can be madly in love with two people at once... but you can't be devoted entirely to both. That's just common logic.

Yes, but he wasn't devoted to May Pang. She was his sex object while Yoko kicked him out of the picture. Yoko hired her to babysit John and make sure that he wasn't seeing anyone else while they were having their "lost weekend." John still continued to think about Yoko throughout the entire time. I read a book that was based on John's diaries that a guy stole. Yoko wanted John to come crawling back to her, and he would call all the time and ask if he could come home, but she wouldn't let him. In my opinion, he was entirely devoted, maybe not completely physically, but definitely spiritually and emotionally.

MIKA_OBESSED
18-12-2007, 10:28 AM
Yes, but he wasn't devoted to May Pang. She was his sex object while Yoko kicked him out of the picture. Yoko hired her to babysit John and make sure that he wasn't seeing anyone else while they were having their "lost weekend." John still continued to think about Yoko throughout the entire time. I read a book that was based on John's diaries that a guy stole. Yoko wanted John to come crawling back to her, and he would call all the time and ask if he could come home, but she wouldn't let him. In my opinion, he was entirely devoted, maybe not completely physically, but definitely spiritually and emotionally.

That's so nice.:wub2:

GhostsInTheRadio
19-12-2007, 03:03 AM
John must've eaten so many lemons, 'cause he was so bitter.

I'd rather be with George, mate, 'cause he was much fitter.

backflip_76
19-12-2007, 03:07 AM
John must've eaten so many lemons, 'cause he was so bitter.

I'd rather be with George, mate, 'cause he was much fitter.
Did you make that up yourself?

GhostsInTheRadio
19-12-2007, 03:09 AM
Did you make that up yourself?

No, it's a Kate Nash song.

"You said I must eat so many lemons, 'cause I am so bitter. I said 'I'd rather be with your friends mate, 'cause they are much fitter.' "

backflip_76
19-12-2007, 03:12 AM
No, it's a Kate Nash song.

"You said I must eat so many lemons, 'cause I am so bitter. I said 'I'd rather be with your friends mate, 'cause they are much fitter.' "
Ahh. Very good choice for your hatin' words against John.

GhostsInTheRadio
19-12-2007, 03:13 AM
Ahh. Very good choice for your hatin' words against John.

I thought so.:biggrin2:

Did you ever hear that song?

backflip_76
19-12-2007, 03:15 AM
I thought so.:biggrin2:

Did you ever hear that song?
What's the name of it?

GhostsInTheRadio
19-12-2007, 03:23 AM
What's the name of it?

"Foundations"

backflip_76
19-12-2007, 03:27 AM
"Foundations"
Oh yeah yeah, I've heard that song! :doh: I just didn't recognize the lyrics. I do like the song, though.

GhostsInTheRadio
19-12-2007, 03:29 AM
Oh yeah yeah, I've heard that song! :doh: I just didn't recognize the lyrics. I do like the song, though.

AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A KATE NASH FAN!

(Actually, I've never heard you call yourself a fan. But y'know... I figured that was a pretty good comeback thingy.)

backflip_76
19-12-2007, 03:34 AM
AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A KATE NASH FAN!

(Actually, I've never heard you call yourself a fan. But y'know... I figured that was a pretty good comeback thingy.)
Oh...you. *shakes head*

And hey, this is a John Lennon thread, remember? So....ummm...Jai Guru Deva. :biggrin2:

GhostsInTheRadio
19-12-2007, 03:39 AM
Oh...you. *shakes head*

And hey, this is a John Lennon thread, remember? So....ummm...Jai Guru Deva. :biggrin2:

George Harrison actually decided to put that line in there.

OH YEAH. THIS AIN'T NO UNIVERSE, IT'S A GEORGEIVERSE.

Or a uniBROWverse.

backflip_76
19-12-2007, 03:41 AM
George Harrison actually decided to put that line in there.

OH YEAH. THIS AIN'T NO UNIVERSE, IT'S A GEORGEIVERSE.

Or a uniBROWverse.
LMAO. I don't know which of your two new words is better. Georgeiverse or unibrowverse. My sides hurt from laughing. :lmao:

GhostsInTheRadio
19-12-2007, 03:43 AM
LMAO. I don't know which of your two new words is better. Georgeiverse or unibrowverse. My sides hurt from laughing. :lmao:

Glad to make you wet yourself.:biggrin2:

backflip_76
19-12-2007, 03:46 AM
Glad to make you wet yourself.:biggrin2:
I didn't say anything about wetting myself, missy.

GhostsInTheRadio
19-12-2007, 03:52 AM
I didn't say anything about wetting myself, missy.

*stares at puddle on the floor*

That ain't apple juice.

backflip_76
19-12-2007, 03:53 AM
*stares at puddle on the floor*

That ain't apple juice.
It was the dog. :mf_rosetinted:

GhostsInTheRadio
19-12-2007, 03:58 AM
It was the dog. :mf_rosetinted:

Don't blame Helga for your weak muscles.

Hannah
19-12-2007, 04:06 AM
Hey, hey! No tainting this thread with George! :sneaky2: :naughty:

backflip_76
24-12-2007, 01:51 AM
There are no words for how precious this is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EjIdNc0Rxs&NR=1

guapo!
24-12-2007, 02:44 AM
Amazing cover: Mother! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57afZ7O1BgA)

heineken22
24-12-2007, 02:56 AM
i just made a new john music myspace, cause frankly, they only have the same 3 songs.

here's the URL.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=303034653 :D

backflip_76
24-12-2007, 02:58 AM
You rock, Hilary. I just added your page :)

heineken22
24-12-2007, 03:03 AM
thanks dahling. :D

i have been listening to John all day today, and discovered the song Love is very pretty, so i had to have it on my myspace. XD

backflip_76
24-12-2007, 03:05 AM
I'm listening to it right now :)

heineken22
24-12-2007, 03:07 AM
neat. :D

i got the Working Class Hero: Definitive collection about 2 months ago, but never really got into it..

but i actually really like a lot of the songs it.

backflip_76
24-12-2007, 03:09 AM
That's awesome. So do you recommend it?

I really need to expand my non-existent Lennon collection. I'm sick of just listening on Youtube and Myspace. :bleh:

heineken22
24-12-2007, 03:16 AM
definately.

it's got most of his hits and other stuff on it.

backflip_76
24-12-2007, 03:19 AM
Well, next time I have some extra money to spend, I'm on it. :thumb_yello:

GhostsInTheRadio
24-12-2007, 03:38 AM
*attempts to set fire to the thread and run*

backflip_76
24-12-2007, 03:41 AM
*slaps Sarie's hand* Bad girl. Be nice to John.

GhostsInTheRadio
24-12-2007, 03:43 AM
*rolls eyes*

John is missed...... and stuff......

I don't want to get hit again. :no:

backflip_76
24-12-2007, 03:47 AM
Well, I guess you've learned your lesson.

queenmikamop16
31-12-2007, 12:08 AM
It's coo coo ca chu! :sneaky2: :naughty:

(SARCASM)


it's goo goo ga joob!! they were humpty dumpty's last words before his tragic death... *Hangs head in shames while mourning over old Humpty*

I've been 'Mikafied'!
03-01-2008, 05:41 PM
i love john lennon to bits!!!!!!!!!!!!:wub2: :wub2: :mf_lustslow: :mf_lustslow:

i wish i was born in the 60's now or earlier :crybaby:

I've been 'Mikafied'!
06-01-2008, 04:04 AM
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc191/mikamavvers/stuff2165.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc191/mikamavvers/stuff2174.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc191/mikamavvers/stuff2168.jpg

MIKA_OBESSED
31-03-2008, 05:48 PM
BUMP.
I win again.:bleh:

Aayame
16-10-2009, 09:53 PM
lol- John's my favourite beatle :wub2:

Nielo
08-12-2009, 06:00 PM
Today it's exactly 29 years ago John Lennon was shot. RIP John Lennon. :tears:

elise_xx
08-12-2009, 06:10 PM
Today it's exactly 29 years ago John Lennon was shot. RIP John Lennon. :tears:

Indeed,RIP :tears:

purplegrape
08-12-2009, 07:52 PM
Today it's exactly 29 years ago John Lennon was shot. RIP John Lennon. :tears:
:tears: and I woke up so sad :tears: I've been crying over him a lot lately :tears:
:crybaby:

suzie
08-12-2009, 07:56 PM
Today it's exactly 29 years ago John Lennon was shot. RIP John Lennon. :tears:


Queen: Life is Real - song for Lennon :tears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV9NgXkTFwo

TheBlackQueen
08-12-2009, 08:24 PM
Today it's exactly 29 years ago John Lennon was shot. RIP John Lennon. :tears:

And I remember myself crying when I heard the news... And I was only 5!! :tears:

This is one of my favourite Lennon songs and performances at The Rolling Stones' Rock And Roll Circus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjdRHzH4M8

alice.loves.mika
08-12-2009, 08:30 PM
Today it's exactly 29 years ago John Lennon was shot. RIP John Lennon. :tears:
So depressing :sad:

England
09-12-2009, 12:17 AM
Today it's exactly 29 years ago John Lennon was shot. RIP John Lennon. :tears:

Rip John :sad:

Nielo
09-12-2009, 01:05 AM
Queen: Life is Real - song for Lennon :tears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV9NgXkTFwo

I'm ashamed to that I'd never heard that song before, but it's absolutely beautiful.

And I remember myself crying when I heard the news... And I was only 5!! :tears:

This is one of my favourite Lennon songs and performances at The Rolling Stones' Rock And Roll Circus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjdRHzH4M8

Aww! :huglove:

Amazing video! I never knew John had played with Keith Richards. :shocked:
I was born way too late, there's soooo much music I've gotta catch up on. :aah:

TheBlackQueen
09-12-2009, 03:34 PM
I'm ashamed to that I'd never heard that song before, but it's absolutely beautiful.



Aww! :huglove:

Amazing video! I never knew John had played with Keith Richards. :shocked:
I was born way too late, there's soooo much music I've gotta catch up on. :aah:

They did as "The Dirty Mac" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Mac ) in a TV show hosted by The Rolling stones in 1968 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_Rock_and_Roll_Circus ), if you like this kind of music, it is highly recommended:biggrin2:

I know what you mean, I wish I had been born back in the 40s so I could have lived the 60s!!!!:naughty:

Nielo
10-12-2009, 01:35 PM
They did as "The Dirty Mac" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Mac ) in a TV show hosted by The Rolling stones in 1968 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_Rock_and_Roll_Circus ), if you like this kind of music, it is highly recommended:biggrin2:

I know what you mean, I wish I had been born back in the 40s so I could have lived the 60s!!!!:naughty:

Thanks, I do like this kinda music! Still so much to catch up on though. :aah:

Have you ever heard the Traveling Wilburys [Jeff Lynne, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, Bob Dylan and George Harrison]? So amazing! :wub2:

Exactly! It's so frustrating that most of the music I love was made way before I was born. :aah:

TheBlackQueen
10-12-2009, 05:26 PM
Thanks, I do like this kinda music! Still so much to catch up on though. :aah:

Have you ever heard the Traveling Wilburys [Jeff Lynne, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, Bob Dylan and George Harrison]? So amazing! :wub2:

Exactly! It's so frustrating that most of the music I love was made way before I was born. :aah:

Oh, I can help you catching up with that kind of music, I've been doing that all my life:naughty: Have you heard this? It's one of my favourites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijSxDesidiY Or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvyDWGF290M :punk:

Of course I've heard The Traveling Wilburies, I love anything George is involved in:naughty: Amazing band!!! Too bad Roy Orbison died so soon after the first album was released, I'd have loved to see more of them.

You know, many of my friends like the same music I like, and we often say it's amazing how almost all the bands/artists we love are dead!!!:boxed:

Nielo
14-12-2009, 02:03 PM
Oh, I can help you catching up with that kind of music, I've been doing that all my life:naughty: Have you heard this? It's one of my favourites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijSxDesidiY Or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvyDWGF290M :punk:

Of course I've heard The Traveling Wilburies, I love anything George is involved in:naughty: Amazing band!!! Too bad Roy Orbison died so soon after the first album was released, I'd have loved to see more of them.

You know, many of my friends like the same music I like, and we often say it's amazing how almost all the bands/artists we love are dead!!!:boxed:

Ooh, thanks! :biggrin2:
When I've got more time, I'll definitely listen to those songs!

Aaah, George... :wub2: :tears:
Most people I know have no idea who the Traveling Wilburys are. :aah:
Yeah, it's really sad Roy Orbison died so soon after the first album, but I love how they paid tribute to him in the video of 'End of the Line' and in the song 'You Took My Breath Away'. :wub2:

It really sucks that so many great artists are already dead! :boxed:


Btw, I'm reading 'I'm With The Band' by Pamela des Barres now. Awesome. :das: