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Old 14-08-2012, 06:04 PM   #625
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Old 14-08-2012, 09:11 PM   #626
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Beautiful!

I love the song TOOL as much as Mika does!

Thank you for posting it!
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Old 15-08-2012, 12:13 PM   #627
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Haven´t watched the Relax song yet....






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Old 15-08-2012, 03:11 PM   #628
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Old 21-08-2012, 10:27 PM   #629
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I've listened to Jo Whiley's version a lot today and I can eventually say that the 'Latin' part is not Latin at all (and this was already said) but mainly Italian.
That is:

padre nostro deus machismo
padre deus deus machismo
dio č madre deus machismo
deus sesso santo spirito

the bold part refers to Pope John Paul II's revolutionary statement about God not being only 'Father' but 'Mother' too.

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p.s. sorry if this was said already. Haven't read back.
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Old 21-08-2012, 10:33 PM   #630
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I've listened to Jo Whiley's version a lot today and I can eventually say that the 'Latin' part is not Latin at all (and this was already said) but mainly Italian.
That is:

padre nostro deus machismo
padre deus deus machismo
dio č madre deus machismo
deus sesso santo spirito

the bold part refers to Pope John Paul II's revolutionary statement about God not being only 'Father' but 'Mother' too.

Discuss!

p.s. sorry if this was said already. Haven't read back.
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Old 21-08-2012, 10:49 PM   #631
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the bold part refers to Pope John Paul II's revolutionary statement about God not being only 'Father' but 'Mother' too.
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That was the interpretation I had right from the beginning, his reference to god being both male and female, as well as the deus machismo phrase all mean that.
I'll re-quote that tomorrow.
I cannot listen to the song now but I believe you, it makes perfect sense. Thanks a lot
PS Does machismo exist in Italian as well?
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Old 22-08-2012, 08:04 AM   #632
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Obviously this part is a mixed up one, and one has to consider it has to match with the music etc...but I can go further in my subtle analisys

- padre nostro = our father. Mika said this part mocks the prayers he was obliged to say when a child, and this is the incipit of the most common one.

- deus is latin anyway.

- dio č madre = god is mother. When the pope mentioned that god is mother and not only father, he clearly did not want to assume that god is bisexual but that god is capable of the same tenderness a woman is. Probably he also wanted to raise the feminine to a higher level....
Mika is using this statement for his own personal goal

- machismo. This word is not Italian but is commonly used in Italy as well with its original meaning.

- dio, sesso, santo spirito = god, sex, holy spirit. The holy spirit in the Catholic trinity is the entity which keeps Father (god) and Son (Christ) bonded in love and the one who got the Virgin pregnant. Matching it with sex is another Mika's clever sentence.

I don't know if all this is behind Mika's choice of words, but I think it's something more than a simple mix-up.
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Old 22-08-2012, 08:13 AM   #633
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Obviously this part is a mixed up one, and one has to consider it has to match with the music etc...but I can go further in my subtle analisys

- padre nostro = our father. Mika said this part mocks the prayers he was obliged to say when a child, and this is the incipit of the most common one.

- deus is latin anyway.

- dio č madre = god is mother. When the pope mentioned that god is mother and not only father, he clearly did not want to assume that god is bisexual but that god is capable of the same tenderness a woman is. Probably he also wanted to raise the feminine to a higher level....
Mika is using this statement for his own personal goal

- machismo. This word is not Italian but is commonly used in Italy as well with its original meaning.

- dio, sesso, santo spirito = god, sex, holy spirit. The holy spirit in the Catholic trinity is the entity which keeps Father (god) and Son (Christ) bonded in love and the one who got the Virgin pregnant. Matching it with sex is another Mika's clever sentence.

I don't know if all this is behind Mika's choice of words, but I think it's something more than a simple mix-up.
i never saw it in that way before! you're right ! clever Mika
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:44 AM   #634
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Thanks you for the translations from Italian ! )
Really, I really loved it at first but the more I listen to this song, the more I LOVE it... *.*
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Old 22-08-2012, 11:29 AM   #635
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And then people still gives priority to his 'come out' instead of freaking out with his cleverness...

Seriously I really hope some intelligent journalist runs into him and asks the right questions so that The ****ing Whole World knows who Mika is.
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Old 22-08-2012, 12:03 PM   #636
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And then people still gives priority to his 'come out' instead of freaking out with his cleverness...

Seriously I really hope some intelligent journalist runs into him and asks the right questions so that The ****ing Whole World knows who Mika is.
This song is about gay love and defying the church (and presumably anyone else who has a problem with it) so I think his coming out is not exactly irrelevant. In fact he had to come out if he was going to discuss this album with any kind of honesty/integrity.
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