Mika in Italian Press -- 2010-2015

I was not talking about Canada, there are probably 5 people who were aware of Mika being in XF Italy... But Italians aren't certainly giving him platinum album sales because of willy willy.

Obviously. I hope he can get a solid fanbase in all those teenagers buying that Stardust single....

I follow Mika for a very short time , and then I don't know much about him. But in addition to his music, I find interesting the way he decided to manage himself and his image in a very ambitious marketing strategy , which aims to conquer many countries...but not using the classical global strategy of the majors.

I have followed Mika for a long time and my problem is I don't believe that this marketing strategy has anything to do with his music and selling it globally. I think it is about supplementing lost income with income from other sources. Sources that have nothing to do with songwriting or recording or performing his own music. If he wants to make money that is his business. If he enjoys all this other nonsense more than doing what needs to be done to try to be a true global musician as he was in 2007-2010 that is his business. But can we just call a spade a spade instead of pretending that it's all in the name of music? It's just not credible to me at all.

Obviously. I hope he can get a solid fanbase in all those teenagers buying that Stardust single....

It's not only teenagers who bought that Stardust single... Just saying.

I confirm that not only teenagers listen and buy Stardust with Chiara, but a whole people in this country have fallen in love with him, mainly with the person, then with the song (which is melodic enough to appeal to Italian common people of all ages), and eventually (and hopefully) with his music in its entirety.

I also need to point out to my fellows new italian fans who start posting here in the MFC that fans from all over the world do not have a problem with Italy or our taste in music. They have a problem with MIKA and his way to manage his career. I don't want to go to facebook and read that the MFC is full of racists against poor Italian fans.

I'm Italian, i detest Stardust with Chiara, I don't like how Mika is managing his career even if he needs to find money. I'm desperate for new music and I don't like all his side projects. I will accept them only when I actually see and listen to new music. But I still love him...because I do, and I cannot forget 7 years of reciprocal love and affection. So in the meantime I feel as Christine and many others feel....thus not being in opposition to the Italians (or French) but waiting deluded in a corner.

Believe me....what we lived and hoped in 2007 and later was totally different from what we are experiencing in the last two years. We simply cannot be happy with the smell when we actually had a roast under our teeth. They just took it off before we could taste it in full.

And having less economical means does not necessarily leads to lower one's standards so much.

I have followed Mika for a long time and my problem is I don't believe that this marketing strategy has anything to do with his music and selling it globally. I think it is about supplementing lost income with income from other sources. Sources that have nothing to do with songwriting or recording or performing his own music. If he wants to make money that is his business. If he enjoys all this other nonsense more than doing what needs to be done to try to be a true global musician as he was in 2007-2010 that is his business. But can we just call a spade a spade instead of pretending that it's all in the name of music? It's just not credible to me at all.

I'm sure he can see things in the long run. It wouldn't make any sense to only supplement lost income (now) without using the publicity to sell the new album in Italy/France and the money to promote it in other countries (in case his record company is not investing in his promotion and he really needs to finance it himself as it looks). Why would he lie about wanting to be a musician? He is absolutely free to leave recording/performing and move on to television work or to writing songs to other artists if he likes to.

I'm sure he can see things in the long run. It wouldn't make any sense to only supplement lost income (now) without using the publicity to sell the new album in Italy/France and the money to promote it in other countries (in case his record company is not investing in his promotion and he really needs to finance it himself as it looks). Why would he lie about wanting to be a musician? He is absolutely free to leave recording/performing and move on to television work or to writing songs to other artists if he likes to.

I'm not that sure he won't actually do it. Not sure 100% until I listen to new music or see other connected valuable projects

I confirm that not only teenagers listen and buy Stardust with Chiara, but a whole people in this country have fallen in love with him, mainly with the person, then with the song (which is melodic enough to appeal to Italian common people of all ages), and eventually (and hopefully) with his music in its entirety.

 

I also need to point out to my fellows new italian fans who start posting here in the MFC that fans from all over the world do not have a problem with Italy or our taste in music. They have a problem with MIKA and his way to manage his career. I don't want to go to facebook and read that the MFC is full of racists against poor Italian fans.

 

I'm Italian, i detest Stardust with Chiara, I don't like how Mika is managing his career even if he needs to find money. I'm desperate for new music and I don't like all his side projects. I will accept them only when I actually see and listen to new music. But I still love him...because I do, and I cannot forget 7 years of reciprocal love and affection. So in the meantime I feel as Christine and many others feel....thus not being in opposition to the Italians (or French) but waiting deluded in a corner.

 

Believe me....what we lived and hoped in 2007 and later was totally different from what we are experiencing in the last two years. We simply cannot be happy with the smell when we actually had a roast under our teeth. They just took it off before we could taste it in full.

And having less economical means does not necessarily leads to lower one's standards so much.

Thank you, that is so well put:thumb_yello:

I'm Italian, i detest Stardust with Chiara, I don't like how Mika is managing his career even if he needs to find money. I'm desperate for new music and I don't like all his side projects. I will accept them only when I actually see and listen to new music. But I still love him...because I do, and I cannot forget 7 years of reciprocal love and affection. So in the meantime I feel as Christine and many others feel....thus not being in opposition to the Italians (or French) but waiting deluded in a corner.

 

Believe me....what we lived and hoped in 2007 and later was totally different from what we are experiencing in the last two years. We simply cannot be happy with the smell when we actually had a roast under our teeth. They just took it off before we could taste it in full.

And having less economical means does not necessarily leads to lower one's standards so much.

I partially agree with you, I mean, it was ok when he wanted to try something else such as X Factor but I think he shouldn't follow that path even though it could be very advantageous economically speaking.

I totally agree with your last sentence!

Believe me....what we lived and hoped in 2007 and later was totally different from what we are experiencing in the last two years. We simply cannot be happy with the smell when we actually had a roast under our teeth. They just took it off before we could taste it in full.

Things don't always work out as expected. It can still be good or even better. This all sounds like he caused a disappointment or let people down and it's just really far away how I feel I'm sure he wanted to do a long and proper tour after TOOL, it just didn't work out as he planned and hoped. He still did some of his best ever performances 2013.

I confirm that not only teenagers listen and buy Stardust with Chiara, but a whole people in this country have fallen in love with him, mainly with the person, then with the song (which is melodic enough to appeal to Italian common people of all ages), and eventually (and hopefully) with his music in its entirety.

 

I also need to point out to my fellows new italian fans who start posting here in the MFC that fans from all over the world do not have a problem with Italy or our taste in music. They have a problem with MIKA and his way to manage his career. I don't want to go to facebook and read that the MFC is full of racists against poor Italian fans.

 

I'm Italian, i detest Stardust with Chiara, I don't like how Mika is managing his career even if he needs to find money. I'm desperate for new music and I don't like all his side projects. I will accept them only when I actually see and listen to new music. But I still love him...because I do, and I cannot forget 7 years of reciprocal love and affection. So in the meantime I feel as Christine and many others feel....thus not being in opposition to the Italians (or French) but waiting deluded in a corner.

 

Believe me....what we lived and hoped in 2007 and later was totally different from what we are experiencing in the last two years. We simply cannot be happy with the smell when we actually had a roast under our teeth. They just took it off before we could taste it in full.

And having less economical means does not necessarily leads to lower one's standards so much.

Thanks for explaining it so well. I particulary agree with the bolded part.

Things don't always work out as expected. It can still be good or even better. This all sounds like he caused a disappointment or let people down and it's just really far away how I feel I'm sure he wanted to do a long and proper tour after TOOL, it just didn't work out as he planned and hoped. He still did some of his best ever performances 2013.

Again, you expressed what I wanted to say...

Things don't always work out as expected. It can still be good or even better. This all sounds like he caused a disappointment or let people down and it's just really far away how I feel I'm sure he wanted to do a long and proper tour after TOOL, it just didn't work out as he planned and hoped. He still did some of his best ever performances 2013.

yes, the way we feel is quite different....I'm happy you feel better than I do, and that you keep spreading your positivity around. We need both side of the apple

Since we think the news about Mika's advertisement needs a thread of its own, I've opened one, where I copied all the discussion.

would you please be so kind as to keep on chatting about that there?

thanks

http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28648

Since we think the news about Mika's advertisement needs a thread of its own, I've opened one, where I copied all the discussion.

would you please be so kind as to keep on chatting about that there?

thanks

http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28648

Thanks for explaining... Couldn't understand the double postings:naughty:

Thanks for explaining... Couldn't understand the double postings:naughty:

Why would he lie about wanting to be a musician? He is absolutely free to leave recording/performing and move on to television work or to writing songs to other artists if he likes to.

Let's just say that his 2013 idea of being a musician is not my idea of being a musician. He is saying that he spent 18 months touring TOOL and we all know that this is not what happened at all. Being a touring pop star is not touring a couple of weeks here and there and cherrypicking a handful of summer festivals in luxury locales around the Med or Switzerland every summer. You are right, sometimes things happen and a tour for TOOL was never going to look like a tour for LICM. But if the future is going to be one or two years of so-called side projects followed up by a few weeks of touring then we are talking about a fundamental shift here away from being a musician as a primary focus. Why can't we just call a spade a spade instead of pretending it's something else? Why can't we talk about what Mika is actually doing instead of what he tells to the press?

Let's just say that his 2013 idea of being a musician is not my idea of being a musician. He is saying that he spent 18 months touring TOOL and we all know that this is not what happened at all. Being a touring pop star is not touring a couple of weeks here and there and cherrypicking a handful of summer festivals in luxury locales around the Med or Switzerland every summer. You are right, sometimes things happen and a tour for TOOL was never going to look like a tour for LICM. But if the future is going to be one or two years of so-called side projects followed up by a few weeks of touring then we are talking about a fundamental shift here away from being a musician as a primary focus. Why can't we just call a spade a spade instead of pretending it's something else? Why can't we talk about what Mika is actually doing instead of what he tells to the press?

But we can't really know what he is really doing when not in the public eye, can we?

I've added an explanation in the first post of the other thread

My fault then... Click on the last page:blush-anim-cl:

But we can't really know what he is really doing when not in the public eye, can we?

I think it's pretty obvious that when someone is juggling multiple TV show appearances and multiple signings in several countries that they are not in a recording studio. We will know when he's in a recording studio the same way we knew he was at a Paris gig last night. People will talk about it.

Ah-ha! the first critics....in a very ironical and witty way

http://tv.excite.it/la-deriva-di-mika-quando-successo-fa-rima-con-eccesso-N146529.html

Maybe it's a bit too harsh....but I like it

Ah-ha! the first critics....in a very ironical and witty way

 

http://tv.excite.it/la-deriva-di-mika-quando-successo-fa-rima-con-eccesso-N146529.html

 

Maybe it's a bit too harsh....but I like it

It sounds quite mean? The google translation is crazy though...

I'm translating it right now but I need some time and it wouldn't be too much correct...

I think it does tease him but it also teases people who suddenly love him and probably would forget him in while.

I admit I laughted at it, I don't bother to get mad, there's no point, and some references are funny.

Some of you will probably agree now and then, some others will agree on almost all of it.

I hope none of us will get mad. Take it ironically

Mika's drift: when “success” rhyme with “excess”

by Simone Rausi

We haven't seen such a frenetic ruin since the time of Parmalat preferred stocks. Let's say it right now, no fooling around. We already are in Mika overdose and next step will be a unconditional hate for his damn pretty face, his funny way of speaking and his compelling caricature manners.

Perhaps you time isn't already coming, but we are ready to disclose what will happen. In a few weeks you will get a psoriasis attack just hearing the first notes of any random Mika's song, if you don't believe it come back to this article whenever you will be ready to. You will nodd for sure. (in italy we use to say without if and without but to say that's something is going to happen for sure).

Yes, it's true. We still have in our ears his perfect italian (“this guy loves us, wonder that Garrison lives in italy since an half century and still speaks italian like Biscardi -an italian showman who has a poor italian level-, who was actually born in italy”, his funny gags “How funny of him, please Mika add me on facebook!”) , his laughters about Roberta Pompa's family name (“Mika, please, let's make friends and spend every friday night till death comes, I hope my death will happen before yours”). But then at a certain moment everything changes. The word “choosare” (he got famous here with that wrong italian word he made up – I hate it and I think he hates it as well), spoken just one more time, could leads us straight to a panic attack.

Perhaps is it to blame on a famous phone brand ad in which Mika acts like Manuela Arcuri in Pupetta Maresca? (I don't have a clue about what that is). Perhaps is it up to his everlasting surprised glance-worthy of an aborigine who sees the ocean for the very first time – that today looks so fake? Perhaps is it to blame on a another phone brand ad (is that even legal?) in which he acts with Raoul Bova and earns thousands of euros at each syllable? We don't know. What it is for sure is that Daria Bignardi hyperventilates on Invasioni Barbariche and introduces him every 13 minutes like a Nobel winner is expected (so what? I did the same ), Dario Fo – who actually is a Nobel winner – acts towards him like an uncle with his newborn nephew, loosing his self respect, the critics praises him for those songs about some fat girls to whom he says “you are beautiful”. Songs that, till some years ago, in italy, rarely reached the top ten charts anf that nowadays are greeted with platinum awards.

Here it is, the matter. If you release a Greatest Hits in the very time that your artistic backside rest on X factor chair, you are smart. If you claim that X factor Italia is unique and that you accepted to do it just because of this but then you flight out to Paris to do The Voice coach, you are inconsistent. If you say you are shy in every interview but then you sing on a podium, with a glitter hat, in every gig, then something's wrong. And eventually, if you admit that TV doesn't fit you because you dream about being a director and the conceptual artist but then you do two adds, two reality shows and you get interviewed even by Peppa Pig, then it's official: you are annoying.

We used to love you, you won over us, we were ready to whisper in a falsetto in playback the “Relax” notes, but Mika, since when we are scared of finding you even in the dishwasher, our relationship is over. And the worst is yet to come: the duet with Morgan in his new album. We already know, that will be the last spike in the coffin (I agree ).

But after all, this is ancient story. Think about Chiara Galiazzo, an other naif of X Factor. Blatant epitome of how you can switch from funny character to a Masai curse in a few, easy steps, 15 ads about a mobile phone and a chorus which made our ears bleeding. Yes, Mika, according to me you do have the Xfactor. A wonderful X. On your face.

I'm translating it right now but I need some time

Thank you!! Take your time and yeah, it's a bit difficult to be sure about the tone as read Google translation and it was even crazier than usually, lol!

Ah-ha! the first critics....in a very ironical and witty way

 

http://tv.excite.it/la-deriva-di-mika-quando-successo-fa-rima-con-eccesso-N146529.html

 

Maybe it's a bit too harsh....but I like it

The bits about his language are a bit harsh (although not entirely undeserved after Willy Willy) but really this bit is just someone trying to cut through the BS as some of us have been saying for months. Some things are obvious once you get past the honeymoon phase and I think it's a dangerous assumption that the Italian media (and public) are inherently different than, say, the Brits or that TV is going to offer a long term solution.

Here, the problem is right here. If you post a Greatest Hits album in the exact moment when your artistic ass rests on the chair in X Factor, you're smart. If you declare that X Factor Italy is unique and you agreed to do this but then fly to Paris to be a judge of The Voice, you're inconsistent. If you say you are shy with each interview and then chants with a hat with sequins and above to a cube at every concert, something is wrong. And finally, if you admit that the TV is narrow because of dreams to be a director and conceptual artist and then do two advertisements, and two reality you interview even Peppa Pig then it's official: You're obnoxious.

Just mainly quoting a couple of posts that caught my eye and that I really agree with:

As it´s been said zillions of times here, anyone can do whatever the heck he wants to do, and of course Mika is among these humans beings I´m talking about. But if to make money he needs a whole year playing the judge in several different countries I´m not sure it´s going to help him with his own music. Maybe it helps his budget. But for sure he is not going to be trusted anymore as he was when he started being a 23yo musician who was against all this sh*tty commercial music that TV shows as The Voice or X Factor are doing. The thing is not "how" he gets money. He could even sell his body, I dob´t care. The thing here is his reputation. I´m sure all of you have these sort of shows in your countries. Can you really imagine Freddie Mercury being a clown in Italy? Really? Michael Jackson? or for those who were born before the 80s: what would you think of musicians as Leonard Cohen, Neil Young or Aretha Franklin selling out in the X Factor industry?

 

This is my point. I´m not a teenager, I´m not printing pics of Mika to decorate my walls. I have always supported him talking to my friends about a dyslexic who could create his own music, his own style, who toured the f*cking world with only one album released. And now, all they can see is a guy laughing his arse off in a "willy willy willy" video on youtube.

 

This is what I mean.

 

Can Mika do whatever the f*ck he wants? for sure.

Is he going to miss me if I´m not around while he does his non-music related stuff? or course not.

But the same way he is entlited to do what he wants, me too. And if I want to moan, or to show my disagreement, I´ll do. And I haven´t been around the last months due to my studies, and a sudden non-interest. Every now and then I come here to check if he has already made enough money to make an album. Then I read he´s said he is going to record this year. And the next thing I see is a pic of himself skiing in Switzerland

 

Can´t wait to hear his new album. Really.

 

 

 

Oh and sorry to have quoted you, it´s not about your post, it´s about the impression that MFC gaves lately...

I have followed Mika for a long time and my problem is I don't believe that this marketing strategy has anything to do with his music and selling it globally. I think it is about supplementing lost income with income from other sources. Sources that have nothing to do with songwriting or recording or performing his own music. If he wants to make money that is his business. If he enjoys all this other nonsense more than doing what needs to be done to try to be a true global musician as he was in 2007-2010 that is his business. But can we just call a spade a spade instead of pretending that it's all in the name of music? It's just not credible to me at all.

I confirm that not only teenagers listen and buy Stardust with Chiara, but a whole people in this country have fallen in love with him, mainly with the person, then with the song (which is melodic enough to appeal to Italian common people of all ages), and eventually (and hopefully) with his music in its entirety.

 

I also need to point out to my fellows new italian fans who start posting here in the MFC that fans from all over the world do not have a problem with Italy or our taste in music. They have a problem with MIKA and his way to manage his career. I don't want to go to facebook and read that the MFC is full of racists against poor Italian fans.

 

I'm Italian, i detest Stardust with Chiara, I don't like how Mika is managing his career even if he needs to find money. I'm desperate for new music and I don't like all his side projects. I will accept them only when I actually see and listen to new music. But I still love him...because I do, and I cannot forget 7 years of reciprocal love and affection. So in the meantime I feel as Christine and many others feel....thus not being in opposition to the Italians (or French) but waiting deluded in a corner.

 

Believe me....what we lived and hoped in 2007 and later was totally different from what we are experiencing in the last two years. We simply cannot be happy with the smell when we actually had a roast under our teeth. They just took it off before we could taste it in full.

And having less economical means does not necessarily leads to lower one's standards so much.

Basically, these three posts sum up how I view the situation, and as has been said many times by others in the same situation, why I for example never spend any time on MFC anymore. It just feels like it's all a bit of a pie in the sky, and no reality of new music or gigs coming our way.

I've been waiting for him to do a gig in the UK for a looong time now, as in 2012 he did a couple (which I went to) but I felt like it wasn't enough at all. I just can't believe that in all of 2013 he didn't do anything proper, and instead has spent all this time pandering to tv shows and silly talent competitions which he had been so vocal against in the past.

It just feels like there is nothing worth waiting for anymore, and so he obviously ends up going to the back of many people's minds because it's been so long since he did anything of note here.

Things don't always work out as expected. It can still be good or even better. This all sounds like he caused a disappointment or let people down and it's just really far away how I feel I'm sure he wanted to do a long and proper tour after TOOL, it just didn't work out as he planned and hoped. He still did some of his best ever performances 2013.

Oh, I sure do feel disappointed by it all