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  1. Mika is not here, mika fans are here, and A LOT mika fans (like me) understand fandom in a completely different way. I can see what other people said about the idol I loved and cherished, and you dont think that will trigger a fight in someway? This being said, if mika does not mind being criticized in that way, and does not think it's mean/rude. Then maybe I should let it go too.
  2. I understand the difference. I just dont how critical can a post be, when will the post be too critical it reach the level of mean/rude? Or is a mean/rude post towards mika also acceptable?
  3. I give up. Now I will just relax and see how this thing end up.
  4. haha this is exhausting for me too . I have a lot papers to grade too! But trust me the 18-20 undergrads' papers are better in logic, and their papers suddently look cuter to me . I dont think he is calling them intolerant, it's just their action (not allow even one French song). Similar like you are not attacking A and B in the "A s**k up B" phrase. No one get close to Donald Trump about xenophobe . But anyway maybe we need to stop, this seems to go into an endless cycle. We all agree that Jemma should not be attacked in these words. I just wish MIKA is not attacked in a similar way, less mean is still mean.
  5. We kind of understand, but not all of them, and the misunderstanding is not in a good way, trust my word on that. OK now this part is understandable. I think maybe "Diva" is not as bad as I thought too. But do you mind explain to me whether "water flannel flaping around" and "baby need to be pandered" is not as bad as I thought? Cuz a lot times in a US movie or television show if someone are called as a "Giant baby" , they seem to be affended a lot.
  6. Maybe it's because this offend something he valued. The diversity of his audience is always something he's very proud of, he mentioned it again and again. Maybe, just my guess. The pic is really funny! I understand why he did not react much in the gig, but lashed it out later, it's uncontrollable if something you expected to be wonderful get smudged. Like a conditional reflex. Two years ago this boy ruined my Chinese New Year eve dinner, I was so upset back then but still trying to smile cuz it's spring festival eve, but everytime I hear his name or the even the spring festival dinnner I remember him with this upsetting mood I swallowed back then, and had a very strong urge to complain about it. Maybe for someone it's not understandable, why I get so emotional about this one dinner. But the lunar new year eve dinner really mean a lot to me, especially when I now live abroad,.
  7. But when I said "why do you make me feel like a monster" in the other thread, I was being called "dramatic" and "trying to escalate things up",.... I really really really dont understand ! And, please correct me if I'm wrong, are you comparing him to a dog? I really really hope I misunderstand here!
  8. I do hope you feel better now, Jemma, no one should be attacked like that.
  9. Of course you can express your opinion without using over-sassy words, "I expect him to cater to local audiences wherever he goes and he usually does. But for some unfathomable reason he just can't respect the fact that there are English fans who would prefer to hear Rain than BBB. I am not even saying that he shouldn't play BBB, because there are other English fans there who want to hear it. But he has to accept that that's how some people feel and stop pouting about it. It's just the way it is and it's not going to change. Mika told a couple of stories in English at a Montreal gig and one of the fans told me she was getting worried and wondering if he was ever going to start speaking French. He can spend the whole gig speaking English if he wants but the French fans are going to feel alienated and hurt by it. He can't just shame them into not feeling that way by calling them intolerant. It is normal and all fans prefer Mika to cater to their local language when he is a fluent speaker." This one seems to be much more reasonable to me, and I would not feel I need to defend for him if this is the post in the begining. I mean I still dont get why it's ok to heckle him, but I wont get into the defensive mode. Instead, you called him a monster. I was like, really? I google "s**k up" and these pics came out, and there are even worse.
  10. Oh I don't think you are targeting Chinese fans any more after your explaination long time ago . But it is a silly phrase, I just want to point out to you how bad it sounds to me in the first place and why I kept saying it's a horrible phrase, cuz you want to know what that phrase mean to me. I am really struggling to understand what you think suck up means because it is not that bad. It is bad that's my point. There are actually worse pics if you google "suck up", so bad that the pic is even not allowed to post here. I know you like to express yourself with all this sassy words, I understand they sounds very impressive. I'm just trying to show you sometimes they may be a little TOO sassy. And it provoke the defensiveness in other fans. It's not that we are oversensitive or anything.
  11. If your wording or other fans's wording are like this in the beginning, I dont think I would feel defensive of mika in the first place. The words people said here about mika before are really horrible, I'm not the only feel that way I can guanrantee you that.
  12. If you search suck up, these images pop out I dont need to explain more.
  13. Yeah the first one is worse, but it does not mean the later one should be tolerrant either, so is "s**k up", that's even worse.
  14. I mentioned a lot times here, I dont like his behaviour about saying BBB to Jemma, and all the mean words towards Jemma either. Or that you just did not see? I don't know her, but her video is very self-centered, I feel so sorry for her in the beginning, being hurt from her idol. But in the end she is still asking mika to sing only English songs, even when there are people in the UK gigs love his French song, or at least the Elvis move with the song.
  15. I dont think all the English fans are better than everyone else, it's just some fans feel they are superior, you can tell from their wordings. And you can't really think "s**k up" is not a horrible phrase. I may not know English that well, but I know what action that phrase mean, that is very very rude to use to describe people.
  16. He is the reason for this fan club. I and a lot other fans do not join a MIKA fan club to see other people attacking MIKA. He is called "Diva", "wet flannel flapping around", "baby need to be pandered", and that is only what I see in the last two days. I can find more if you need to see.
  17. We are fans. Even we dont have contact with him, we love him, and if you see someone hurt the one you love and hold dear to, you defend for him. Same as why you're defending for Jemma even when you know it's her to upset him first, and even you have said you understand why he lashed out in a gig later.
  18. He knows fans flies all over the world to see his show, he is very proud of that. His focus IS in the local, he just also put the foreign audience into consideration too. Also, even some fans in UK areas like BBB live too, I say this again and again, do not ignore that.
  19. I just want ot know, is it also unacceptable to use nasty words to talk about mika here? Cuz that seems to happen very very often here. Do you need me to display all the horrble phrases they used so you can see that?
  20. You are using that phrase again. If you don't know, let me tell you, when you are saying "A sucks up B", you are insulting both A and B.
  21. And this come from someone who just said he want to "s**k up" Chinese fans yesterday, and you think that's not rude to the Chinese fans. WOW
  22. Because there're also foreign audience there he need to sing for.
  23. What mika did is exactly like that, the majority like English songs so he sung English songs most, the minority like French songs so he sung ONE French song for them. What's wrong with that??
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