"FanFics"

[CazGirl]

But is that a feasible idea? I know the PPR thread is huge and confusing as it is without adding all the other fanfics to it. We spend a lot of time going back to catch up on story entries that were written while we were gone; I can't imagine how time-consuming it would be, not to mention confusing, if we also had to sort through entries from other fanfics. We'd also be making a new thread every three days or something; PPR Part 2 was made last week and already has over 2,000 replies.

 

Obviously, I am pro-fanfics. I agree that it might be a good idea to move them to the Chin-Wagging section, but I don't think they should be taken out of the forum completely unless they start to equal 50% or more of the threads in the section. The thread I write in has always been respectful of Mika, (although I was PMed with the idea of adding a disclaimer, which I am thnking is not such a bad idea.) and for those who don't like fanfics, the thread should say it's a fanfic either in the title or the first post, so that these members can steer clear of them. I don't understand how anyone can say they want to move fanfics to PMs so other members can avoid them; it's a very simple technique to avoid them: once you know it's a fanfic, stay away from the thread.

 

Someone in this thread said something about how there are groups of people on here, like cliques. I agree. That's why I don't see fanfics as intrusive. They are little cliques, clubs for people who want to write and express their creativity. I don't think it's fair to do away with all of them because a few got carried away. There should be a set of ground rules, but that's it.

 

 

that was me lol

 

i dont think people were saying PM all your stories - clean/erotic - to all your friends. the clean ones you can post, but not the dirty ones.

for example on the girls thread, i wrote a nice, clean paragraph and then said if anyone wants the rest, PM me, because I knew the content would not be appreciated on a public forum, especially for little ones. However, it IS up to you who you send it to. If you think they're mature enough to handle it then it's in your hands. But there are varieties of people on here....some people are experimental and some may stick to their religious background. Like you say, if a fanfic thread WAS to be created then it should clearly say so in the title so no-one gets upset and there's no war or outcry (lol).

 

I see what Blue Sky is saying about thr forum's reputation and I can understand and agree, hence why if you are to write something erotic, it should be PM'd. I also know what you mean by multiple threads. I used to write a fanfic crossover of an anime and an RPG (Role Playing Game) and posted it on http://www.fanfiction.net .

 

I suppose if it got a bit hectic on here, people's fanfics could be posted on an official fanfic site. It's an easy site to use as well.

 

EDIT: I also don't think these fanfics were created to disrespect Mika in any way...I suppose it depends on opinion. We in the girls thread wrote them for laugh, we were never serious about anything. I also used it to showcase my writing skills and we do have some very good writers. If we are to encourage a fanfiction thread then maybe we should try and shed some positive light in it, rather than the negative. We don't want to discourage people from their talents but to try and find a better outlet.

I very much like Robertina's idea about involving all of Mika's characters.

[micafan]

im 14 and mature, no need to worry about me!!!

 

i know lots:bleh: :punk:

[CazGirl]

i edited my post btw lol

[Sarah_loves_mika]

Haha,

 

to be honest, you know, were all human and stuff, so if people can't accept that it's purely made up and for a laugh, then i dont know.

 

BUT, it's not nice really to have a +16 warning on alot of things, because some people might feel left out or a bit intimidated.

 

And that could always cross over into other threads too, for example, if 2 people of a particular fanfic 'club' were talking on say, the butterfly bar, and maybe a newbie of a certain religion or belief was there, and the others are all like

'ohh, remember when *someone wrote this on that thread*', people could start feeling left out.

 

Theres plus points and minus points to everything i suppose

[artsyfartsy17]

that was me lol

 

i dont think people were saying PM all your stories - clean/erotic - to all your friends. the clean ones you can post, but not the dirty ones.

for example on the girls thread, i wrote a nice, clean paragraph and then said if anyone wants the rest, PM me, because I knew the content would not be appreciated on a public forum, especially for little ones. However, it IS up to you who you send it to. If you think they're mature enough to handle it then it's in your hands. But there are varieties of people on here....some people are experimental and some may stick to their religious background. Like you say, if a fanfic thread WAS to be created then it should clearly say so in the title so no-one gets upset and there's no war or outcry (lol).

 

I see what Blue Sky is saying about thr forum's reputation and I can understand and agree, hence why if you are to write something erotic, it should be PM'd. I also know what you mean by multiple threads. I used to write a fanfic crossover of an anime and an RPG (Role Playing Game) and posted it on http://www.fanfiction.net .

 

I suppose if it got a bit hectic on here, people's fanfics could be posted on an official fanfic site. It's an easy site to use as well.

 

EDIT: I also don't think these fanfics were created to disrespect Mika in any way...I suppose it depends on opinion. We in the girls thread wrote them for laugh, we were never serious about anything. I also used it to showcase my writing skills and we do have some very good writers. If we are to encourage a fanfiction thread then maybe we should try and shed some positive light in it, rather than the negative. We don't want to discourage people from their talents but to try and find a better outlet.

I very much like Robertina's idea about involving all of Mika's characters.

 

Hmmm......I'm torn now. What constitutes erotic fanfic? I mean....I've always thought PPRC was respectful to Mika, but if you aren't ok even with vague references to kissing, then it can be considered erotic....there's always going to be someone who's extremely sensitive to that. Again, I think a set of very clear and concise ground rules should be laid out, and anything that doesn't follow those should be PMed, but only upon request of the person receiving it.

[happikali]

Haha,

 

to be honest, you know, were all human and stuff, so if people can't accept that it's purely made up and for a laugh, then i dont know.

 

BUT, it's not nice really to have a +16 warning on alot of things, because some people might feel left out or a bit intimidated.

 

And that could always cross over into other threads too, for example, if 2 people of a particular fanfic 'club' were talking on say, the butterfly bar, and maybe a newbie of a certain religion or belief was there, and the others are all like

'ohh, remember when *someone wrote this on that thread*', people could start feeling left out.

 

Theres plus points and minus points to everything i suppose

YEP !! Good point Sarah !!

[my_rainbow_radio]

Hannah described everything beautifully and I couldn't agree more.

 

I know the Girls Thread doesn't have a particularly good reputation but there was a time when we were into fanfictions to....fictional stories created by fans as we discovered earlier. However, we never, never posted them publically, we PM'd them to eachother. We know Mika reads this forum and we would feel extremely uncomfortable if he read them...in fact I would be ashamed. While we were never serious about it, it was all a laugh, I still wouldn't post it for all the world to see. I would find it embarrassing, therefore everything was sent to people we trusted.

 

I think everyone knows by now that people talk to certain people more...i.e a sort of clique on the forum. I think there a few. I discovered that in the Girl's Thread it's easy to forget you're on a public forum. As Freddie has seen, we have found it very easy to talk about certain topics and often get carried away, forgetting the people actually lurk on that thread without posting, and therefore we could be offending people without realising. I believe that certain threads COULD have been created for just a certain clique, thinking that maybe other people wouldn't be interested and would leave the thread alone? I don't know, but it is easily done.

 

Not all fanfics are erotic. There are a variety. They're just like novels; actions/crime/horror/comedy/romantic etc...but people tend to write erotic fanfics more because they're taking off characters in a certain book/series/film where no sexual description is given and is just left to the imagination. Some people enjoy reading them but some people don't. People could argue that if people don't like reading them then they should them alone, what's the fuss, but the fact is strangers could come onto this forum and see a whole bunch of fanfics - clean and/or erotic - and God knows what they would think. They probably would think it's more of a fanfic forum than a Mika forum

 

If fanfics WERE allowed to be placed on here I think they should be created in the Chinwag section. They may well be about Mika but I don't think it's the right sort of conversation. When I first joined here the only places I looked in were the News and Chat About Mika section...I didn't feel "blended" enough to chat amongst the other MFCers because I was new, and so stayed out of it. I'm not saying that's how all newbies feel...

 

anyway. i'm rambling now...you get the picture.

 

THANK YOU CAZ!

I agree with every word you just said. There isn't even anything else I can say that you didn't!

[IngievV]

Hmmm......I'm torn now. What constitutes erotic fanfic? I mean....I've always thought PPRC was respectful to Mika, but if you aren't ok even with vague references to kissing, then it can be considered erotic....there's always going to be someone who's extremely sensitive to that. Again, I think a set of very clear and concise ground rules should be laid out, and anything that doesn't follow those should be PMed, but only upon request of the person receiving it.

 

I don't see kissing as erotic, but someone else may think that it is. To me, it gets erotic when 'more' then kissing happens. It just depends on where you have your boundaries. And I agree that there should be clear rules. I don't write fanfics myself (unless you count the diaries to fanfic:naughty: ) but there should be rules because there will always be people somehow offended by it when it gets too erotic:wink2:

[EnFa]

..erotic.. erotic ..erotic:wink2:

 

Ah! Erotik. Yeah some may won't like it.

[avoca]

I don't really care. I don't read them, so they can be posted here or not.

[IngievV]

Ah! Erotik. Yeah some may won't like it.

 

Why does it say originally posted by me:shocked: What did you do to my post you perv!

[EnFa]

Why does it say originally posted by me:shocked: What did you do to my post you perv!

 

I just moved all the words that wasn't needed.

[Kata]

I would hate to see people's creativity limited by rules, I personally can't see how a thread like PPR can possibly harm anyone for instance, it's even fairly easy to avoid I think those threads where there's a continuing story and a group of people are having a good time being creative together are valuable for the forum, what I'm against is the whole "I wrote down my sexual fantasies and want you all to read them" thing that I have seen on other forums

[IngievV]

I just moved all the words that wasn't needed.

 

All my emotions, all my blood sweat and tears, all my creativiness I put in that post....you just removed them....bastard *B*tchslaps*

[CazGirl]

Hmmm......I'm torn now. What constitutes erotic fanfic? I mean....I've always thought PPRC was respectful to Mika, but if you aren't ok even with vague references to kissing, then it can be considered erotic....there's always going to be someone who's extremely sensitive to that. Again, I think a set of very clear and concise ground rules should be laid out, and anything that doesn't follow those should be PMed, but only upon request of the person receiving it.

 

again...people's opinions are different. I guess it depends on a person's age and/or their religion. Some people may consider reading about people kissing uncomfortable...

I'm fine with it - it's not really erotic - but it's also about putting yourself in Mika's shoes. If I was was famous and reading a fanfic about me kissing someone I would ... okay ... find it really funny, but also think it weird that people would be sexually attracted to me, even though we don't know each other.

I guess it's all about detail. Too much porno type detail I think we will all agree that is not acceptable on such a public forum. But, leaving it out but making it implied is different because it is left to the individual's imagination. I believe we should be celebrating everyone's beautiful style techniques, not hardcore "we did it hard and fast" plus more detail writing lol. It depends how you WRITE about it. You can still sort of include it but equally make it sound beautiful and artistic

 

For example (not that i'm the best writer in the world but you get the picture):

 

We stared at each other for a long while. His hand raised to my chin to gently pull me closer ... his eyelids covered his glassy brown eyes and I suppose mine did the same, as it was the last thing I saw. His lips were soft but I was lost in such a state of bliss and ecstacy, the memory of last night was a blur. I awoke this morning to find my lover and I intertwined with each other beneath the soft white sheets.

 

That, I believe, is acceptable. Also notice how I left out Mika's name. I think that maybe writing something like that it would be wise to also leave out his name. It can still be done and everyone can still relate to it. The writer could imagine their first love/crush/current other half, and the reader could be thinking exactly the same OR Mika or even someone else. This way it gives the reader to imagine the man - or woman - who would play their lover's role. It could also make Mika feel a bit more comfortable with it if he happens to stumble across it, because not every reader might be thinking about him.

 

THANK YOU CAZ!

I agree with every word you just said. There isn't even anything else I can say that you didn't!

 

no problem

 

I would hate to see people's creativity limited by rules, I personally can't see how a thread like PPR can possibly harm anyone for instance, it's even fairly easy to avoid I think those threads where there's a continuing story and a group of people are having a good time being creative together are valuable for the forum, what I'm against is the whole "I wrote down my sexual fantasies and want you all to read them" thing that I have seen on other forums

 

I understand and completely agree. I made that mistake on the girls thread and boy was that embarrassing LOL

[Droopsy]

well, no problems to me. I don't want to read things like this. Not even the example caz gave. I have no need/willingness to read it, and I don't like to read it either.

 

But I just don't open threads like that... Yes I see the titles, but it doesn't bother me that's it's there, I just ignore it and go to the next thread.

[CazGirl]

droopsy just so you know i practically gave no details lol. it was intended to leave it to the reader's imagination.

[IngievV]

droopsy just so you know i practically gave no details lol. it was intended to leave it to the reader's imagination.

 

It was very deep, you should write romantic novels:biggrin2:

[ThatRadFreak]

Close your eyes!

 

I'm posting a fanfic!!!!!

 

 

 

I had an arm wrestle with Mika, i won, he is a weakling

 

 

 

Im not very creative xDD

[CazGirl]

It was very deep, you should write romantic novels:biggrin2:

 

lol thanks, but how did you work out "deep"???

 

Close your eyes!

 

I'm posting a fanfic!!!!!

 

 

 

I had an arm wrestle with Mika, i won, he is a weakling

 

 

 

Im not very creative xDD

 

 

ROFL

[mouselle]

2 cents worth -

 

having read a fair bit of fan fiction about tv characters at various times, I cannot hypocritically say it is a bad thing.

 

However, I will never voluntarily read any fan fic about Mika, or any other real person.

 

There is an involvement with TV shows where you see part of a characters life, and want to extrapolate or imagine the off screen life, due to an intense interest in those characters.

 

In making up any further stories, you manipulate those characters, and put them in a situation where the TV show does not take them, or just imagine more depth, or behind the scenes stuff or whatever. They can be imaginative, or erotic, aventurous etc ...

 

I personally feel that publishing fan fic (on an internet forum) about Mika is

promoting an unhealthy interest in his personal life and feelings and reactions. Discussing every detail of what he does publicly, his reasons, personality, and reactions is fine. He puts it out there.

 

What he does not want to make public is any real information on his family life, relationships or friends. He wants to stay the singer, not the love interest or the celebrity whose life is open to discussion by the world.

 

I don't think it is a pleasant thing, to write a personal story about someone who wants to keep their life private. I think it is different for TV characters, who do not exist to have a private life, and cannot feel exposed or violated when given one (or many!)that is publicly discussed and put on an internet forum.

 

Mika, and anyone who is written about, usually shrugs or laughs, and says that they don't care as the stories have nothing to do with the real person.

 

However, you have to give a lot of thought to how you think the real person might be, think and act in the simulated situation to write about it. And if you are the real person being written about, I think that would become very uncomfortable.

 

So I think fan fics should be pm'd , or put on a separate site. I would prefer MFC to be a place where Mika could proudly visit, not a place where he has to embarrassedly dodge the fan fic. I'd like MFC to be crazy and zany, not scary...

[phunkygal]

Hello

 

Im starting to see "fanfics" through the forum , collectively we have said we didnt want them before with respect to Mika, to be honest I dont really get them and have never been involved . so Im throwing it open .. is this something we want to see on the MFC?

 

FD

 

 

i agree 100%! but i think as long as fanfics dont get too dirty they should be accepted.....

[mellody]

i'm not involved in the fanfics, but if people want to do it, why not? those who don't like it won't have to look into those threads (ok except for the mods maybe, so in that way i can understand you fred ), so i'm not bothered by it.

[CazGirl]

mouselle, i completely understand everything you say.

 

You say that it's not so bad about a TV character, because their characters are not real and so you can make it up without offending that person because they cease to exist. On the other hand with Mika or any other real life person it is unacceptable. Mika chooses not to discuss his private life, you are quite correct.

 

BUT BECAUSE he chooses not to discuss it, it makes people curious. Writing fanfics could also be a way of people expressing their thoughts and their feelings (depending on how you go about it - see my post above or on the previous page wherever this post goes). People are going to write about real life people whethere you like it or not. Fanfics CAN degrade a forum but it depends on what content and context the text holds.

I am not sure how much truth is in this but I am GUESSING that most, or perhaps all of the authors behind these fanfics are indeed younglings or maybe in their late teens/early 20's perhaps. It's nothing more than a flyaway fantasy for those who truly fancy (and quite literally) the pants off Mika. Even those who fancy Mika but don't join in with the writing probably think it. Even people who fancy "ordinary folk" think these thoughts but just because some people express them doesn't necessarily mean to say it's wrong. Everyone has them...some people are just more open about it.

 

Not to say that that's okay...we all have to be considerate of other people. Some people could think these fanfictioners are too loose but they could think that those possibly wishing to banish them are too tight. We can't please everyone and that's a fact.

 

We all say that we should respect Mika and I agree...but no-one writes these fics to purposely degrade him. We're on this forum because we love him...literally or not literally depending on the person. They're created for fun and enjoyment, not to treat him like a piece of meat.

 

And what about people who joke about spanking Mika or whatever randomly? I know Sparkly1 is guilty of this LOL (not just pointing the finger at you dearie, I think you are hilarious!!!!) but isn't this just as bad? And what about the people who talk of chicken? I believe we're all as bad each other. We all talk about the same thing, just in a different way.

[phunkygal]

mouselle, i completely understand everything you say.

 

You say that it's not so bad about a TV character, because their characters are not real and so you can make it up without offending that person because they cease to exist. On the other hand with Mika or any other real life person it is unacceptable. Mika chooses not to discuss his private life, you are quite correct.

 

BUT BECAUSE he chooses not to discuss it, it makes people curious. Writing fanfics could also be a way of people expressing their thoughts and their feelings (depending on how you go about it - see my post above or on the previous page wherever this post goes). People are going to write about real life people whethere you like it or not. Fanfics CAN degrade a forum but it depends on what content and context the text holds.

I am not sure how much truth is in this but I am GUESSING that most, or perhaps all of the authors behind these fanfics are indeed younglings or maybe in their late teens/early 20's perhaps. It's nothing more than a flyaway fantasy for those who truly fancy (and quite literally) the pants off Mika. Even those who fancy Mika but don't join in with the writing probably think it. Even people who fancy "ordinary folk" think these thoughts but just because some people express them doesn't necessarily mean to say it's wrong. Everyone has them...some people are just more open about it.

 

Not to say that that's okay...we all have to be considerate of other people. Some people could think these fanfictioners are too loose but they could think that those possibly wishing to banish them are too tight. We can't please everyone and that's a fact.

 

We all say that we should respect Mika and I agree...but no-one writes these fics to purposely degrade him. We're on this forum because we love him...literally or not literally depending on the person. They're created for fun and enjoyment, not to treat him like a piece of meat.

 

And what about people who joke about spanking Mika or whatever randomly? I know Sparkly1 is guilty of this LOL (not just pointing the finger at you dearie, I think you are hilarious!!!!) but isn't this just as bad? And what about the people who talk of chicken? I believe we're all as bad each other. We all talk about the same thing, just in a different way.

 

haha. the fan fics i write arent about me being with mika but with other with mika!