BonjourMika1990 Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 I've been worried about my classmates, and I think that many are going to have a blast this weekend, but will not be making good decisions....so I put out a myspace bulletin today, to show em' some "tough love":naughty: EDIT: for the record, people who read this encounter me everyday at school...they know me and understand my humour lol... I"m sorry if you come away thinkng I'm self righteous...totally not me!!! The thing is, I don't want anyone going to prom to make bad decisions... be safe! Think about all the little decisions that you will make...the big outcome in the end is determined by what you do step by step. Don't drink, it's NOT cool. Especially when you have the intention of looking like your cool. Being cool is not something you can "get"... Cool is knowing who you are and owning your own personality. Don't be stupid and drink... Ask yourself if it's necessary. The answer when it concerns alcohol at this age is "ABSOLUTLEY NOT! " At 21 drink...not now. You guys are just kids. You try to be older, but those baby faces of yours give it away. You look stupid with a plastic cup in your hand and a beer in the other. You just look like your trying to be like "the big kids" The story of your life maybe huh? Not to mention that it's completley cliche... I love that word... don't you love that word? BE ORIGINAL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD... I need to say it, I don't have to, but I've been thinking alot about it. Just hearing things...people's intentions and all that other stuff. PROM is overrated...not the actual dance, I'll give you that...but what people look forward to the most after prom etc... BE SMART... Let me roll up my sleeves for this one The issue of "giving IT away" on prom night is one that I laugh at...hysterically. I'm not a prude...clearly. But I know class...and I understand the lack of class present among girls today. HAVE SOME PRIDE IN YOURSELF. RESPECT WHO YOU ARE...DON'T LET JUST ANYONE HAVE "IT"... MY GOD...SHOW EM' WHAT YOU'RE WORTH. And really, don't waste your time with someone you don't love... or someone who doesn't respect themselves or YOU! Have fun, but be safe...please be safe. Prom means alot to some people...they go through highschool daydreaming about it. That was never me. I love when people say, "WHEN ELSE ARE YOU GONNA GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK LIKE A PRINCESS FOR A NIGHT???!!!!!" My answer is simple...and I gotta thank my buddy Ritter for this one (who went and now regrets it ) " I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I'M PLANNING ON ACTUALLY BEING SOMEBODY SOMEDAY... SO YEAH, I WILL HAVE INUMERABLE OCCASIONS TO WEAR BALL GOWNS AND OWN EVERY GRAND ENTRANCE I MAKE... " This part is yours Ritter! " BE SURE TO WATCH ME AT THE ACADEMY AWARDS...DUH!" That's my rant...just because I know people are curious...as they often are about me for some reason. I want you all to understand that life after highschool is a time to let go of the things that make you a child... making dumb decisions is childish, and I don't respect it. HAVE FUN!!!! P.S. Curious about my own plans for tomorrow???? WEll, I can tell you now that I'm already getting involved in my college of choice URBAN ARTS FESTIVAL...AKA...so "melanie" http://www2. colum. edu/manifest_2008/ LOVE to all of YOU -Melanie That was my message, I will have NO REGRETS about not going to prom....but I want to make it clear that I never mean to degrade it's specialness to others... some genuinly do want to have good clean fun and feel beautiful...
Diana Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 I think I'll refrain from replying to what you wrote because you probably won't like what I'd say.
BonjourMika1990 Posted May 15, 2008 Author Posted May 15, 2008 I think I'll refrain from replying to what you wrote because you probably won't like what I'd say. well, if its not a personal attack against me than go ahead. But teasing me like "that" is almost worse in my opinion:naughty:
BonjourMika1990 Posted May 15, 2008 Author Posted May 15, 2008 in all fairness, the people I go to school with will harm themselves if it means going through with this rite of passage...THAT unfortunatley, is somewhat cultural.
Diana Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 Ok but remember, you asked for it. In your myspace bulletin I feel you're coming across as feeling superior. I'm sure you didn't meant it that way, that you wrote it with the best intentions but if I were going to that prom and received that bulletin, I'd be highly offended. I know the legal drinking age is 21 in the US but here it's 16 and there's a reason for that. When you hit puberty you start testing your boundaries and start discovering new things. You want to experiment which is healthy at that age. Teens start drinking, maybe doing a little drugs and indeed start discovering sexuality. These are all normal things. I don't think it's up to you to tell anyone if they should or should not drink/have sex/etc. Just because you're not ready for it yet, doesn't mean others aren't. I'm assuming your classmates/people attending prom are your age right? You're 18 years old and perfectly capable of making your own decisions right? Why not let them do the same? Maybe they'll make mistakes, but they're their mistakes to make! And they'll learn from them. They don't need someone telling them what not to do.
BonjourMika1990 Posted May 15, 2008 Author Posted May 15, 2008 Ok but remember, you asked for it. In your myspace bulletin I feel you're coming across as feeling superior. I'm sure you didn't meant it that way, that you wrote it with the best intentions but if I were going to that prom and received that bulletin, I'd be highly offended. I know the legal drinking age is 21 in the US but here it's 16 and there's a reason for that. When you hit puberty you start testing your boundaries and start discovering new things. You want to experiment which is healthy at that age. Teens start drinking, maybe doing a little drugs and indeed start discovering sexuality. These are all normal things. I don't think it's up to you to tell anyone if they should or should not drink/have sex/etc. Just because you're not ready for it yet, doesn't mean others aren't. I'm assuming your classmates/people attending prom are your age right? You're 18 years old and perfectly capable of making your own decisions right? Why not let them do the same? Maybe they'll make mistakes, but they're their mistakes to make! And they'll learn from them. They don't need someone telling them what not to do. Oh, this I can defend:thumb_yello: I don't feel superior at all...not in the slightest. The thing is that when it comes to drinking and drugs...sex etc, these may be normal "rites of passage" but in no way are they necessary. I believe that people should have a voice, freedom of speech...to do what they want. In that sense I am liberal. BUT what I think you're not considering is the fact that making these "mistakes" that will "teach them about life and their boundaries" WILL put others in danger. They drink...and drive Who gets hurt??? Innocent people will perish... One of my best friends, Beth, had her father killed by a drunk driver. Her legs were shattered in the accident and she woke up to her father's body lying over her. IT was because of someone else's "experience" that she lost her dad, her whole childhood...every dream he had for her, every wish all gone in an instant. I understand the drinking age is 16 in many places but in my opinion...that's completely unnecessary...but I don't want to argue that. I think at 16, yes you have to figure out your boundaries and live your life, but risking your own self respect is not worth it. It seems out of line to hand someone that young alcohol. People can say it's because I'm an American, and that's what the law teaches me...but the fact is that alcohol impairs judgment, and does no one good in the end... discovering your sexulity, well that's different.... but when your drunk and discovering it, its not so smart. SEX to me is LOVE My belief is this: I'm not ready for it now because I havn't fallen in love yet...I'm not saying that I'll wait until marriage (probably NOT!) but sexually experimenting to me without limits...just to "test" your limits is crazy nonsense...people get hurt, disease spreads... I hope you can maybe understand where I'm coming from. I don't think myself to be "higher" up on a pedestal than anyone else...but I feel like if someone out there can benefit from my words and find the courage to say "no" than it will be worth it.
iadoremika Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 Yeah, I'm a junior and people at prom last year someone got wasted at prom and the cops were there and stuff.
LadyGodiva Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 In the U.S. things are different as far as drinking goes. Because most don't drink from a young age, when they finally do, they go crazy and go too far. I'm not against drinking alcohol, i'm more opposed to being so drunk you don't even know where you are and can't control your actions. Sex is up to that person, most experiment with that when they are young, and i'm not opposed to that, but i think you will be better off waiting until you are older and completely sure of things. Most don't know much or don't care though, so it's up to them. I've found school dances to be quite dull. Where i am, it's just a whole bunch of people grinding to sh*tty music and pretending to be cool and mature. I've gone to a few, but quite honestly i'd rather go out with my friends. thats just my 2 cents of course.
mikalovernj Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 well, Im going to have to go with, uh, BonjourMika1990 (sorry forgetting your name ) I don't think that youre coming off superior. I repsect that you're concerned about your friends and classmates. I know that prom night can be a scary thing. Drinking can lead people to do things they wouldnt normally do. I can understand your concern
BonjourMika1990 Posted May 15, 2008 Author Posted May 15, 2008 well, Im going to have to go with, uh, BonjourMika1990 (sorry forgetting your name )I don't think that youre coming off superior. I repsect that you're concerned about your friends and classmates. I know that prom night can be a scary thing. Drinking can lead people to do things they wouldnt normally do. I can understand your concern It's ok! I'm Melanie:wink2: and to add to my "superiority" complex:roftl: That's just the way I am with my friends...like a mother, a wise voice...and they all respect me for that..so I guess you'd have to understand our relationship to realize that I wasn't trying to be a snob.
iadoremika Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 In the U.S. things are different as far as drinking goes. Because most don't drink from a young age, when they finally do, they go crazy and go too far. I'm not against drinking alcohol, i'm more opposed to being so drunk you don't even know where you are and can't control your actions.Sex is up to that person, most experiment with that when they are young, and i'm not opposed to that, but i think you will be better off waiting until you are older and completely sure of things. Most don't know much or don't care though, so it's up to them. I've found school dances to be quite dull. Where i am, it's just a whole bunch of people grinding to sh*tty music and pretending to be cool and mature. I've gone to a few, but quite honestly i'd rather go out with my friends. thats just my 2 cents of course. That so reminds me of a story. There was this teacher at my school who chapperoned a dance this year. And she was so "horrified" by what she saw that the next day she told her class what she saw and she crired. I wasn't there or anything but I asked and she actually was crying...
mikalovernj Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 :thumb_yello:its good to be the mature one ( hehe im not )
LadyGodiva Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 That so reminds me of a story. There was this teacher at my school who chapperoned a dance this year. And she was so "horrified" by what she saw that the next day she told her class what she saw and she crired. I wasn't there or anything but I asked and she actually was crying... :shocked:was she a new teacher...? It's ok! I'm Melanie:wink2: and to add to my "superiority" complex:roftl: That's just the way I am with my friends...like a mother, a wise voice...and they all respect me for that..so I guess you'd have to understand our relationship to realize that I wasn't trying to be a snob. I'm a bit like that as well, i tend to have pretty strong opinions. I don't always share them, but when somebody asks i will tell them, or if i think somebody is making an ass of themselves i'll tell them lol. honesty, give and take.
iadoremika Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 :shocked:was she a new teacher...? Nope- she wasn't new. I know, I was suprised because she isn't a new teacher and I was thinking to myself when they story ws being told "she's not new...hasn't she chaperoned a dance and seen that stuff before?"
rilo8913 Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 In the U.S. things are different as far as drinking goes. Because most don't drink from a young age, when they finally do, they go crazy and go too far. I'm not against drinking alcohol, i'm more opposed to being so drunk you don't even know where you are and can't control your actions.Sex is up to that person, most experiment with that when they are young, and i'm not opposed to that, but i think you will be better off waiting until you are older and completely sure of things. Most don't know much or don't care though, so it's up to them. I've found school dances to be quite dull. Where i am, it's just a whole bunch of people grinding to sh*tty music and pretending to be cool and mature. I've gone to a few, but quite honestly i'd rather go out with my friends. thats just my 2 cents of course. To the bolded part: yes, yes, yes. This isn't even just about going crazy on prom night, but in general as well. I really don't understand the thrill of getting drunk just for the heck of it at any age. I hear people all the time bragging about how many shots they downed last weekend or how many different varieties of alcohol they were able to consume before passing out. "I can't wait to get druuunk tonight!" is a phrase that's commonplace and I just think that sounds like the stupidest thing ever. Seriously. What's so great about being incoherent and vulnerable... basically being a different person? It's "relaxing" or "fun?" And as for prom, I know lots of people who will be attending it. But I don't really understand a lot of the craze... the "prom group drama," the thousands of dollars put forth for one night, stressing so much about it that you can't sleep at night. That just seems like a waste of energy. The point of prom is to have fun, and with all that on their plate, some people are making it anything but! People should just relax and enjoy it for what it's worth.
Diana Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 Oh, this I can defend:thumb_yello: I don't feel superior at all...not in the slightest. The thing is that when it comes to drinking and drugs...sex etc, these may be normal "rites of passage" but in no way are they necessary. I believe that people should have a voice, freedom of speech...to do what they want. In that sense I am liberal. BUT what I think you're not considering is the fact that making these "mistakes" that will "teach them about life and their boundaries" WILL put others in danger. They drink...and drive Who gets hurt??? Innocent people will perish... One of my best friends, Beth, had her father killed by a drunk driver. Her legs were shattered in the accident and she woke up to her father's body lying over her. IT was because of someone else's "experience" that she lost her dad, her whole childhood...every dream he had for her, every wish all gone in an instant. I understand the drinking age is 16 in many places but in my opinion...that's completely unnecessary...but I don't want to argue that. I think at 16, yes you have to figure out your boundaries and live your life, but risking your own self respect is not worth it. It seems out of line to hand someone that young alcohol. People can say it's because I'm an American, and that's what the law teaches me...but the fact is that alcohol impairs judgment, and does no one good in the end... discovering your sexulity, well that's different.... but when your drunk and discovering it, its not so smart. SEX to me is LOVE My belief is this: I'm not ready for it now because I havn't fallen in love yet...I'm not saying that I'll wait until marriage (probably NOT!) but sexually experimenting to me without limits...just to "test" your limits is crazy nonsense...people get hurt, disease spreads... I hope you can maybe understand where I'm coming from. I don't think myself to be "higher" up on a pedestal than anyone else...but I feel like if someone out there can benefit from my words and find the courage to say "no" than it will be worth it. I know you weren't trying to be superior, I'm just saying it could come across that way. Saying them discovering their boundaries will put others in danger is an unfair generalization in my opinion. Just because they will have a drink doesn't mean they will also automatically get into their car and drive home. I'm sorry about what happened to your friend, I really am, but it's unfair to deny everyone their choice just because one idiot got into his/her car drunk and killed someone. Again, not every drunk teenager gets into his or her car and drives home after prom. Just like every drunk adult doesn't call a taxi and leaves their car behind. What I'm trying to emphasize here is that it's not up to you to make decisions for other people. You think it's unnecessary to drink at 16, you think people risk their self respect by drinking and you're free to feel this way. Just like everyone else is free to choose whether or not to take that drink. How would you feel is someone tried to pressure you into drinking, just like you're doing now, trying to pressure them into not drinking. About the sex thing.. Again, to you sex equals love and one can't exist without the other but not everyone feels this way. Everyone has their own values and should be free to act on them without being judged by their peers. If they want to get plastered and screw around they should be free to do so as it's their choice. There is no right and wrong in this, there's just opinions. We all have different ones and we all feel our way is the best way (because if we didn't, we would choose a different path). I know you have the best intentions at heart but you have to understand that your values don't apply to everyone.
musicfreak Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 :punk:wooooo...go people who don't go to prom!!! and to people who don't make bad desicions! we rock dont we? i honestly hate the whole idea of dances, i comepletly agree with your whole ranting! i'd rather spend my night hangin w/ my friends, doin what we love!
Guest Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 Why be anti-prom? You can be anti-underage drinking, anti-drugs, anti-premarital sex, or whatever. Prom in itself is nothing that bad. To be honest, if I was on your friends list and read that bulletin/went to your school, my first thought would be "Melanie didn't get asked to prom." I'm not saying that that's true, I'm saying that it sounds alot like jealousy or something. Like when you want to go to a party, but have a fight with the girl throwing it, then you get the attitude of "I didn't want to go, anyway.:tears:"
mikalovernj Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 well, i cant really make a decision on whether or not ill go to prom since im only in 8th grade but i think prom is overrated. god, its just a stupid dance. and everyone worries about it, like "omigod, what am i gonna wear?" or "omigod, should i ask him to prom? what if he says no?" CMON PEOPLE ITS JUST A GODDAMN DANCE WHY DONT YOU WORRY ABOUT IMPORTANT THINGS SUCH AS WHAT COLLEGE YOURE GOING TO?? sorry im just really tired and i dont mean to offend anyone, its just that there are better things to do with your time then worrying about a few hours of your life that will never matter
iadoremika Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 I'm only going to my prom if they play Mika You could request Mika, couldn't you?
Guest Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 I'm only going to my prom if they play Mika As if. You live in the states, remember?
findingmywords Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 well, i cant really make a decision on whether or not ill go to prom since im only in 8th grade but i think prom is overrated. god, its just a stupid dance. and everyone worries about it, like "omigod, what am i gonna wear?" or "omigod, should i ask him to prom? what if he says no?" CMON PEOPLE ITS JUST A GODDAMN DANCE WHY DONT YOU WORRY ABOUT IMPORTANT THINGS SUCH AS WHAT COLLEGE YOURE GOING TO?? sorry im just really tired and i dont mean to offend anyone, its just that there are better things to do with your time then worrying about a few hours of your life that will never matter When my prom comes up I'm gonna go in jeans and a t-shirt It does seem insanely overrated. There are so much more important things than spending thousands of dollars on a dress or getting your hair done. The main point of those events, in my opinion, is just to dance and be with friends and have a good time. Mainly dance. I think the point of dances and events are just to have fun, and not to have a reason to seem cool because you drank a box of beer or wine and got completely wasted. It seems that girls and guys these days just want to get drunk and high and have sex. Where ever I go, that's all kids talk about. Anyways, people can do what they want. It's their life!
musicfreak Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 I'm only going to my prom if they play Mika :shocked: i never thought of that!!! wow...i wan't gunna go to prom next year,( i chose not to go this year either) but now...if i request mika:blink:
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