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oscard wilde fans: magical meeee!!!! he was simply a genious! one of my fave writers ever.

Welcome! He really is

This guy is haunting me!

I only worked out 2 days ago that Oscar Wilde is neither a singer or Kim Wild's dad.

 

I'm a huge fan of Mr. Oscar Fingal O'Flaherty Wills Wilde

Welcome!

ooh.. I'm def going to buy it.. But I haven't get to that part yet.. of the yellow book you talk about.

I thought of reading it too, but I'm not sure yet. It sounds so... poisonous

Hahah, indeed. I've basically read everything of his, including stuff no one even hears about, like "Duchess of Padua" or "Vera or the Nihilists." And I have a huge tome of all his collected letters, and a section of my bookshelf dedicated to him, and I did my undergrad thesis on some of his work. I even spent one summer reading rare books on him at the Library of Congress for fun.

 

And yes, of course I've been to his grave, AND to his house, AND to his college, AND to the church where he was married, AND...

 

I first got into him as a child through his fairy tales like "The Star Child," which are lovely and despairing and hopeful.

 

Something few people seem to know about him is that despite his general reputation as a life-for-pleasure dandy esthete, he was actually a socialist/anarchist! And a feminist. He was the editor for a magazine called Women's World for a while, and a lot of his writings--fairytales, essays, etc--are quite politically/ethically motivated. In his view, the pursuit of beauty included beauty of the soul, and thus was rather less hedonistic than one might think.

 

He also had his own unique brand of Christianity, which I identify with a lot. But of course he despised the hypocritic shallow mores and morals of his time, and loved to shock and mock the bourgeoisie. He also didn't believe in half of what he said, although he meant it all with utmost sincerity.

 

By the way, it's thank to him and his circle that we have the stereotype of the gay man as having a limp wrist, etc. Or rather, thanks to the the hullabaloo that happened after his trials. It originally had nothing to do with gayness, but with being a stereotypical aesthete--a la Gilbert and Sullivan's operetta Patience--but when a number of those in the aesthetic circle were revealed to be gay, one became associated with the other.

 

--Jack

 

P.S. He is basically the love of my life, quite truly.

Oh, how nice to hear that you're such a fan of his. I actually know most of the facts that you mentioned, including the book that inspired Dorian Gray. However I've always been a bit confused about his beliefs. I always hoped that he did not really mean some of the things that he said, and it is sometimes hard to understand when he was serious and when he was not. I've read that Wilde was very careless and that he did not want to think about "ugly" issues like poverty, that he valued outer beauty higher than the goodness of character, but it seems impossible when I read his fairytales where there is so much compassion towards the less fortunate. Hava you read some of his most well known biographies? I'm reading "Oscar Wilde, His Life and Confessions" by Frank Harris at the moment. When I was in England I tried to find "The Unmasking Of Oscar Wilde" by Joseph Pearce, one of his newest biographies, but I couldn't find it. I read that there was much about his religious beliefs and I thought it could be really interesting. I do not really understand how religious he was - he used to say something quite blasphemous from time to time, but he did get christened before his death so religion ment something to him. I would have liked to meet him very much. That's wonderful that you have visited so many places associated with Wilde - I hope to do it so me day too. I would actually like to go to Ireland and see where he grew up. I know there is a museum of Wilde, and it would be so wonderful to see some of his belongings, maybe a lock of hair. I've also wanted for many years to go to Chelsea to see his house on Tite street and I definitely plan to do it the next time I'm in England.

I just peeked into this thread and saw your wonderful banner, Petra

By the way, merry Christmas to you all!

Welcome, Rebeca! Enjoy this crazy forum!

Coincidence! lol

RIght now I'm reading "The picture of Dorian Gray" and I absolutely love it!

I'm in the part where Lord Henry and Basil have dinner with Dorian and now they are going to meet the actress!

 

A quote:

"There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book. Books are well written, or badly written"

Oh, the dark things are yet to come

I read Dorian Gray and found it difficult to get through, just because I was so annoyed by Dorian's character. What a punk he was. LOL

 

But I like The Importance of Being Earnest a lot. His writing is certainly enjoyable and it's true a lot of his work was quite dark and sardonic.

He really was

I've read some parts of The Importance of Being Earnest and I liked it too, I was actually going to reread it during Christmas holidays if I have time.

It's strange that Wilde's friend describes him as the mildest man ever - always charming and a person who wins everybody's favor. I wish I had met him and seen what he was really like.

That´s true. And he suffered a lot for his thoughts and his way of life..

He did. When Dorian Gray was published some people stopped talking to Wilde because the book was considered immoral. Wilde was extremely popular in the higher society, but there were also many people who hated him and feared him for his thoughts.

That´s why i love the book. It shows with harshness that ugliness, bad things mankind can do...

I saw some wilde´s plays played by amateur actors and they were quite good i have to say

From what I read of him and about him, it seems like he was waaaaay ahead of his time.

I read Wilde's biography written by his friend now, and it seems that he was anything but ordinary. What surprised me was that Wilde was actually almost more popular for his talk than for his works when he was alive - he captivated everybody by the way he spoke. But the late years of his life was really horrible - he was sentenced for two years of labor in prison for homosexuality. And since then he was an outcast for the rest of his life - he lost almost all of his friends and family. The criminal laws and the laws of society were monstrous then.

My morning tea cup - that I bought in Dublin - says: "Oscar Wilde: Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast." Very true, my mornings prove it.

 

Oscar Wilde is one of "my" people, let him rest in peace. When I was in Paris I put flowers on his grave, pathetic.

 

I love his fairytales but they are so dark and depressive, even for an adult.

It is not pathetic at all! I've wanted to do it since I was thirteen - put a bouquet of white lillies on his grave as he liked them so much. Now, that is pathetic

I've also felt since the first moment that he is one of "my" people. It's strange, his works are not the thing that you would read relaxing by the cup of tea, they are very dark and disturbing, but still there is something extremely captivating about them and Wilde himself.

I haven't read much of his work, just bits and pieces that are floating around on the net.

A couple of weeks ago I bought his novel 'The Picture of Dorian Gray' but I haven't got around to reading it yet.

almost everything: plays, poetry, novels...My favourite book is The Portrait Of Dorian Gray

Dorian Gray is really scary. When I read it I was quite shocked about how Dorian changed (I won't mention what happened not to spoil for you, Diana). I've read many times that Wilde was very much like Henry Wotton, but at the beginning I thought he was more like Bazil.

I've been to the play "The Importance of Being Earnest" here in Latvia, but I didn't like the performance. I would actually like to go to a Wilde's play in England.

*raises her hand*

I remembered a quote...

Music makes one feel so romantic. At least it always gets on one's nerves - which is the same thing nowadays.

Hello

He has some splendid quotes indeed. I like this:

"To get back my youth I would do anything in the world, except take exercise, get up early, or be respectable."

What have you read of Wilde?

I noticed in some posts that here are a couple of Oscar Wilde fans, and I am one also, so I decided to make this thread where we can discuss the brilliant writer.

I actually got to know about Wilde from the movie about him, and I found his life story very touching. I've read his fairytales, his novel "The Picture of Dorian Gray" and some parts of his other works and I've found them fascinating as well as his personality.

So, anyone else a fan of Oscar?

Dear Mika,

 

Everyone on the MFC was burderned and truly touched by the interview that you gave (*name of article goes here*). We all knew about your childhood during your school years, but this really opened our eyes a bit more.

 

The majority of people here at the cosy home of the MFC have been bullied at some point or another, and for small different reasons, but we had one big reason that was the same for all of us: We were all different.

 

This is why we love you so much; not just for your music, not just for your infectious personality, but because of how HUMANE you are and because we can relate to you - it makes us feel a little bit closer to the man who has made our lives so much happier.

 

We all know that there's no true way of beating the bullies; we have all been affected terribly by the disgusting behaviour of children and it still lives with us all today, likewise with you.

 

We just want you to know that even when you feel most alone, you are not alone. Without trying to sound stalkerish, I mean.

 

All these bitchy and nasty comments affects our confidence and self esteem, likewise with you, and like you say, "not even fame can change that"...but all of us here want you to know that:

- we DEFINITELY think that you are NOT ugly. You are in fact the most idealistic man any one of us could have dreamed of *not sure about that last sentence lol, sounds too "fan" if you get me...like, crazed fan. I mean, I know we ARE pretty crazy fans, but we wont him to know that we respect him too and I think that sentence is a bit too OTT XD*. You don't have an odd face, you're beautiful. You may not believe us, you don't HAVE to believe, but we just want you to know what we think. We are speaking the most honest truth in saying that you are exquisitely wonderful inside and out. Please don't listen to all those negative comments - you deserve much better and you are much better than them anyway.

- we also think you are very considerate and thoughtful, e.g when you thought your school could do with a christmas tree. Everyone's heart melted reading about how it was dealt with and...well...it was just really cute. There's no other word to describe it...

 

 

my brain's mushed. i cant think of anything else.

It's a beautiful letter. I wish I could express my thoughts through writing so well as you can - it is exactly what I would like Mika to know, but I couldn't write it so sincerely ad sensibly. I would probably write something like: "Whaat, are you crazy?? You're not ugly in any way, how can you say so or even think so, it's ridiculous, you're weird, really!!" (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit, but you know what I mean:naughty: ) You should really send this

He was wearing Aude's shirt on that interview??? Ah, why wasn't there a picture?

Mika thinks he is ugly. No, he is really weeeiiird. I mean, how can he imagine such a silly thing??? He is absolutely stunningly handsome! How can he think he's ugly?? HOW???????? :shocked:

Articles like this always reminds me how good it is that there is Mika

Some more...

 

I just realized that this picture reminds me of doctor House. That look - so like him! :roftl:

Some more...

 

 

 

He really needs to be an actor!

Wonderful pictures

They're so nice pics . You were in first row, in the odeum right? I was in the sixth ant the pictures I tried to take were so blurred that I gave up almost immediately. I wonder why I didn't recognize any of you when I passed the queue - as I do when looking at those pics.

So, I'm back to my wits again.

Thanks to you, Carmel, and your mum! Wow, I can imagine how breathtaking it was to give the quilt to him! And he touched my patch!!

We could consider about the pillows... and of some carpet

ok so, in the que, when andy the camera man came out, i took the quilt out to ask if i would be able to give it to MIKA, and he said i should be able to, and he like videoed the quilt and lots of people took pictures, and i was proud

 

Spoke to andy about the quilt, over 30 people from all round the world made patches etc etc

In the actual gig, me and my mum was like holding the top up and waving it round, trying to get him to see it.

 

After the gig, at the signing, we put the quilt infront of the railing, and held the top up, so he could really see it, and he thought it was amazing, you could tell, he was genuinly gobsmacked.

he said thank you, and he touched sesil17aa's patch (sorry if i spelt your name wrong) and he kept going 'wow, thats incredable'

and then he signed my mika top and we went

 

=]

OMG, and I see this only

now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:tears:

I will say something more afterwards, but now I just cant!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello and welcome

I was there too and it was also my first gig - superb

A very late and short review

This was my first Mika gig and I think it was fantastic! At last I assured that Mika was real and looked the same as in the gorgeous photos and sang as wonderfully as in the album! I and my friend arrived at about half past four and there was of course quite long queque already. I was very glad to meet Kata and I thought I would meet also other mfcers afterwards but I didn't manage. I didn't know that Mika was ill and I was completely surprised when I got to know that the two next gigs were cancelled I would have liked to stay after the gig, but my friend didn't feel well and I was also afraid of missing the last tube, so I went awasy and I was extremely sorry for that, but now I know that he got away very quickly. That's so annoying that the people started chasing him!

IF YOUR NAME IS MIKA, PLEASE LOOK AWAY NOW

 

It is cool beyond measure! And it got filmed - wow! Carmel - you and your mum has done such a work - you are a star, really!!!

Haha, it was quite cool. The evil wolf singing in Mika's voice was hilarious :roftl:

I didn't read the whole thread but I noticed that there is interest about our petition. That's cool, I'd like to see the interview

I just listened to it and it was so cool to hear all of your voices And the messages were very sweet!

P.S.

Ircazo, you Must be a singer

you're so lucky that you even had that watch. my mom doesn't let me have any mika stuff or anything. my wall are empty. well i have a clock . she thinks that is "inappropriate", for 15 y/o (i'm 16 in january) .i would love to have a lost mika watch .

 

EDIT:// i where making a mika wallpaper to you, to make you feel better, but electricity went off, so i lost it! i'm gonna make it again by tommorrow 3pm. *lots of hugs*

 

hi sesil17aa!

i made this wallpaper to you, so you would feel better. here it is . i hope like it. you should check that there is no hole in that pocket where you put your watch. once i lost my keys, so i wait 3,5 hour at snow storm my mom to come home. i had i cell inside of our house, so i couldn't call, a nd when we went inside, i took my jacket off and i where like " why is this so heavy?" and there was hole in my pocket and my keys where there . i hope you found it, and if you don't, maybe you can ask your mom to give you a new wacth as a early xmas precent. good luck.

Thank you so much, SuperCactus, that was so sweet from you! It's a wonderful wallpaper, I like it very much!!

No, I don't have a hole in my pocket, I checked that and I haven't found it. But, oh well, I will go to the concert, maybe Mika will give me his (yeah riiiight)