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    2012 - Mika Tells Instinct, “Yeah, I’m gay.”

    in Mika News and Press

    Posted

    I don't have the whole thing in Dutch, but there was an article about it on nu.nl a few days ago: http://www.nu.nl/wetenschap/2878059/verwijding-pupil-verklapt-seksuele-orientatie.html

    The science section on nu.nl is usually lacking some nuance, and sometimes just plain wrong. But reading a full-blown scientific paper is quite difficult if you're not used to it, so I guess this would be the next-best thing.

     

     

    Thank you:thumb_yello:

    2012 - Mika Tells Instinct, “Yeah, I’m gay.”

    in Mika News and Press

    Posted

    Ok, back to topic. One of the things that surprised me in the discussion here is that people that totally accept homosexuality sometimes don't seem to believe in bisexuality. I had to think about that when I came across a news article yesterday. It was in Dutch, so I didn't post it here, but here's the source: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0040256

    and to summarize, bisexual men have a different response than heterosexual or homosexual men.

     

    do you have this in dutch? that would be easier to understand for me

    2012 - Mika Tells Instinct, “Yeah, I’m gay.”

    in Mika News and Press

    Posted

    I am happy to send my 'mikalove' to Lena right away, but I need to add that we also had the iron curtain running on the Western borders of Hungary and other Russian fans in their thirties are likely to have experienced the same. It's just that we are different as people with different levels of tolerance to accept differing views.

    My exposure to gay culture was zero until my late teenage years: I never knew or heard of anyone who would be gay. All I heard (from someone in my family as it was never discussed anywhere publicly) that homosexuals were sick and dangerous to children. :blink:So I imagined them as middle-aged pervs I should be afraid of, except that this family member was also good at spotting 'gay men' on TV, like the singer of Modern Talking, who was wearing an eye-liner...:roftl: Needless to say, I started to question such easily identifiable traits, so I concluded that I shouldn't believe that as it is just part of old people's fear of anything new or different coming from the Western world (now I'd call it Communist propaganda)

    Next I remember hearing is that Freddie Mercury died of AIDS and that he was gay. So I thought I should quickly forget about anything I have heard so far as such a great musician can't have been all sick and evil. And that is the reason why role models do play an important part in influencing public opinion / 'educating' people. There is also one other thing I remember that helped me totally understand that gay people love the same way as any straight person does: the film Philadelphia. I remember crying at the end of it.

    I think people in most part of the world are exposed to similar news and events at any particular time period and it is up to us how we contruct our own reality.

     

    thank you and willywonka. Hope Lena will see this.

    btw:I'm so happy that that iron curtain is away.

    2012 - Mika Tells Instinct, “Yeah, I’m gay.”

    in Mika News and Press

    Posted

    Lena I can tell you are upset. But Jesus taught tolerance. He preached against judgement. For example: "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

    We are all sinners, we are all imperfect and it doesn't do to judge one thing as being worse than others. This is what the Church does, and it causes a lot of damage.

    Let's just imagine that Mika decided to try and conform to his church, by getting married to a woman, as the church would have him do.

    How long would it be before that marraige ended, because he could not love her the way she deserved, or needed, him to love her. If they'd had children, then the children would also be hurt. That's like his Billy Brown song. Where he seems to have everything he needs, but can't help falling for another man and breaking apart his "perfect family"

    So though Mika could have gone down that route, he didn't because it wouldn't have been right. It was wrong for Oscar Wilde, it would be wrong for Mika too.

    Many gay men (and probably women too) have gone down the route of trying to marry themselves straight. It just doesn't work since people don't choose to be gay. Years ago men went to jail for being gay, so they wouldn't choose it for themselves.

    I've said before that you have had this idealised idea of Mika. I don't say it to be mean to you. I could always see this coming. That he'd fall for someone and you'd be hurt. But think of it this way...

    We're his fans. We see the best of Mika always. We see the man who sings to us and signs our stuff with a smile. We don't see the man who wakes up in a bad mood, or maybe snaps at someone because he's feeling cranky. His boyfriend will have a much different view of Mika than we have. Because Mika is just an ordinary guy. Not some sainted image.

    So I think you should just love the Mika we all see, and let Mika-the-ordinary-guy live his private life, without any judgement.

    Jesus loved prostitutes. He probably knew a few gay people too and loved them anyway. Remember that he died for all of us, not just certain ones of us. Church rules are man-made and nothing to do with Jesus. If you can think of it like that, you may feel much better. I hope so.

     

    totally agree every word

    2012 - Mika Tells Instinct, “Yeah, I’m gay.”

    in Mika News and Press

    Posted

    Exactly my thought Silver, that's what happened to myself, it took me a lot of time (many years), effort, enquire, reading, researching and experience

    to find out and accept the truth about religion and spirituality.

    Its been a long journey and I did change a lot as a person in order to do that.

    Now I look at the world through different eyes, feel happier and more free.

    :thumb_yello:

    I wish I was on facebook than I could just hit the like button.would be so much easier:naughty:

    2012 - Mika Tells Instinct, “Yeah, I’m gay.”

    in Mika News and Press

    Posted · Edited by Moonlightchild

    I think we have to remember that for many of the world religions, homosexuality is seen as a sin, and that if you have accepted that religious belief all your life without question, it may be hard - or even impossible - for you to accept someone as openly homosexual without seeing them as sinful and needing to be saved. It requires a paradigm shift in your view of the world, and that's not easy to make.

     

    So true!

    and therefor be open minded and give Lena a chance. I don't like homophobic people who hate gays (actually I can't stand them) but there is a difference between hate and don't understand it. Lena was a teenager in Russia when there where iron walls around Russia! don't forget that.

    I guess she has never known or even met someone who was openly gay and there was no freedom of speech.maybe the law decided for here what she was supposed to believe and think. I understand it's a shock to her and I understand her whole world felt apart. she needs time. she's a good girl with a good heart. we should accept and help her with that because we are open minded people.she's in pain and she needs Mikafanlove:wub2:

    2012 - Mika Tells Instinct, “Yeah, I’m gay.”

    in Mika News and Press

    Posted

    Alright' date=' I may be rather young to join in this conversation (14) but I feel as though I have the overwhelming desire to share my views on this point. Seen through my eyes, the way we live our lives is certainly subject to outside interpretation. This is especially true for Mika, who, as a celebrity, has chosen to accept the possibility that aspects of his private life may come into view of the public eye and the eye of his fanbase. And how everyone sees the world is highly dependent upon how they were brought up, their opinions, thoughts, religious beliefs etc. Therefore something that seems one way to someone of a certain belief may seem differently to someone of a different belief (I'm trying to maintain a position of neutrality) One may belief that homosexuality is wrong and they have their right to that belief, therefore in their eyes wanting to 'save' Mika would be an expression of their love and respect for him. Although in someone else's view homosexuality is fine and therefore not wanting to interfere would be a sign of [i']their[/i] respect and love for him. Although it isn't necessary to respect someone's PoV (however preferable that would be) it is a good and highly informative thing to observe it. But in the end it's Mika's personal life and so his beliefs and views are what matter to him. As his fans we're here for his music, no? And yet we find ourselves in such a position as to judge his character based off of that. He has the right to withhold any information from us as he wishes. So what I'm trying to say (albeit in a highly unstructured way, sorry for that) is that overall HIS beliefs are what should govern HIS life, and regardless of whether we agree or not that isnt going to change. Feel free to live your OWN life how YOU want to. But it's quite a pointless matter to be so grieved and distressed over something that not only does you no harm whatsoever but that also makes someone happy. No matter if you have no personal attachment to Mika, (which although most of us do we really should not) you're here for music which is, other than in principle, rather unaffected by sexuality.

     

    So young(14) and full of wisdom :thumb_yello: respect

    Mika singing in opera

    in Chat about Mika

    Posted

    Does anybody still have the mp3 of "Act IV Scene 1: The Pilgrim meets Mister By-Ends"? The old link isn't working anymore and on amazon are only instruments in the audio sample now :sneaky2:

    I have it uploaded somewhere,give me a min I search the link for you

    CHANGED DATE: Mika in Antwerp, Belgium at Sportpaleis

    in Before the Show

    Posted

    So I guess the m&g is all done? :blink:

     

     

     

    OOooh, I must've missed that comment... I'll trust that you quoted it right! :teehee:

     

     

    Oooh yes, for sure!

     

     

     

    Welcome back!

     

    Great to hear that he looked happy on stage!

    Thank you,here are some pictures from the net on Cuting Adge;

    http://www.cuttingedge.be/photo_reports/3986-mika-sportpaleis-antwerpen?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=CuttingEdge.be

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