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April 6

59 minutes ago, Marab said:

What about "La Bourse du travail " (1905 places) or "Le Transbordeur" ( 1800 places ) in Lyon ? 🤔

Because the McDonald's contest offered 9,000x2 tickets to win, and also there are 15x2 tickets for a M&G with Mika after the concert. So these venues are too small to accommodate all the winners. 😉

April 6

9 hours ago, Jaela said:

The stadium was sort of my own (hyperbolic) assumption, since they offered 9000 tickets for 2 people to win for that concert (see here)

That's 9000 x 2 and then not even counting the people McDonalds will have invited/reserved seats for themselves, people who work with them, etc., you would need a large venue to host them all!

I would not be surprised if they downscaled though, perhaps they were expecting more enthusiasm for this contest than they actually got, it may be the McDonalds boycott really had an effect on it.

The two biggest concert halls in Lyon are already booked for other events (LDLC Arena and the Halle Tony Garnier.) The only venue remaining is the "Palais des Congrès", which can accommodate 19,000 people and, I believe, can be adapted to set up a stage. We'll see.

March 30

2 hours ago, Hero said:

Just to respond to this point from a post in the other thread:

Well, maybe, but it's not for one person to dictate which threads are useless and shouldn't exist. If they're well used, others obviously like them. If you want to be inclusive you have to accept all aspects of the fandom. That doesn't mean you have to like everything - god knows there's a couple of threads I avoid - but you can't expect them not to exist just because you don't like them.

Obviously, members are not required to read every single thread and post. If there's a thread you don't like or aren't interested in, just avoid it! If there's a thread you do like, you can "follow" it to receive updates (akin to "liking" on sm). And if there's a particular user that consistently posts content you don't like, you can choose to "ignore" them (account settings - manage account) and you won't see their posts unless you choose to read them.

These are features designed to help you make your experience more enjoyable. No need to annoy yourself reading things you don't like!

Actually, question for the mods - is it possible to "ignore" a thread? That might be useful.

So you're asking us to avoid looking at these threads when they should just be deleted? Deleting takes less than a minute, right? You talk about "be inclusive", should I remind you of the definition of this word? I's a word referring to the acceptance of differences. So, are you asking us to accept that people speak negatively about an artist's sexuality? Is that it? Do I need to remind you that even recently, Mika mentioned in an interview that he avoids social media because he still receives hurtful messages privately? Do you really think that him and his team would be happy to learn that the moderators of the MFC support this kind of talk?

Yes, they're not highlighted on the forum, thankfully. But they exist; it's not just two pages about it. The stop should have been put in place as soon as this forum was launched to prevent overflow. You had already made a statement about it a few years ago with the only argument being that Mika was a "sex symbol" for some. Okay, fine, but people don't have to expose their fantasies in public. Minors look at this site, and the impulses of some should not be exposed on a site accessible to all. You've written rules that isn't enforced: "Administrators and moderators of these forums reserve the right to remove any content posted by members, or to suspend or ban any member at any time or for any reason in accordance with these guidelines and at their sole discretion. They also reserve the right to handle all administrative issues, including disciplinary action, privately (...) Adult topics and language - avoid profanity, explicit sexual posts, excessive sexual innuendo or other content that may be inappropriate. This would include posts that describe a sex act, or strongly imply one. The forum system automatically blanks out certain curse words, but there are some that it won't catch and you may be asked to stop using those words by a moderator."

So I'm sorry, but even if you don't enforce the forum rules, how do you expect us not to complain? Accept being in the wrong and clear out the threads.

March 29

3 hours ago, virgi said:

I don't think it was handled poorly or secretly.

Deb asked (see below) to those who were going to Paris to please RSVP four days before the gig (I guess as soon as she knew that Mika's team wanted to organize this early entry). And she linked the page where to do it, so it wasn't that difficult to find the right place and click on "I'm going". Nobody knew what was it for. She waited enough time (days) so that everyone could read the message and RSVP, and then proceeded with instructions. She didn't hide anything, otherwise she could have contacted only those 35 who RSVP autonomously.

You don't have to be online on the forum 24/7 to see her post, but if you know you're going to Paris and don't want to miss any news, you can activate notifications via email (one per day/per week with new content from the thread or even one mail each time something new is posted). If someone don't know how to do it, they can always ask.

But what's crazy is that we're just asking for the information to be shared on ALL MFC social media platforms! Whether it's when the MFC receives invitations, access to presales, etc... And don't tell me it's complicated to do. So what if more people sign up? That's kind of the point of a draw! I think we've all understood that NO ONE here is trying to open up the discussion when we try to do so. We're proposing solutions here so that everyone is on an equal footing. You talk about the site being "well done" and where everyone can find their way. 4.2 million posts! And you think a newbie will find what they're looking for? Because between the salacious threads that are useless in the forum (sorry but I'm tired of seeing posts from people who want to s*ck him off or admire his sweating) and random people who tell their life stories in threads that shouldn't exist, maybe there's some sorting to do? I've already proposed solutions in private: I haven't received any response. And once again, when we try to evolve the site for the good of all, we get torn apart. If you're not even capable of understanding that adaptation comes from both sides, I don't see why continue the discussion.

March 28

4 hours ago, dcdeb said:

I organized the group the way I did at the suggestion of Mika's team. I'm not sure how I would have said, "No, the MFC fans don't want early entry for this show."

I don't know where you get the number 60 from, as we just had 39 fans in the group that entered early. We handed out wristbands, so we know how many entered. As I said in my previous post, yes, a number of the fans who entered early have seen Mika many times before, and were, in fact, already queuing from early that morning. But a number of the other fans had never seen Mika before, or had never been front row before. And I don't know what you're referring to with the edited screenshots of my messages -- what did that have to do with anything? No one got in early based on editing any of my messages. Sounds like one of the rumors or a "friend told a friend" sort of thing.

As far as implementing a "fairer" waiting system, I'm not sure what you mean? But I can tell you that I have no way to predict when, if ever, MFC might be offered something like "early entry" again. It's not a routine thing, by any stretch of the imagination.

But as for London, we learned today that the venue offered a ticket "upgrade" for £25 that would allow you to bypass the regular queue, and enter via a lounge where you could have a drink while waiting. So, you know, the people who pay can probably get in a little ahead of anyone who's been waiting all day.

It would have been wiser to make an announcement on social media: "Mika's team offers the opportunity for several fans to have early access to the pit, sign up under this link and a draw will be held." So, yes, there would have been a crowd, but it would have given everyone a chance to enter early. Imagine waiting since 5 a.m. and then being overtaken by 39 people at the last moment without understanding why.

Yes, the person who made an editing got in early access because she was in the "regular" queue and when she learned there was early access, she went to join them. She is one of the people you had excluded because of problems. If this happens again, a draw should be implemented so that each person has the chance to enter early. Many fans from the fandom only follow the MFC on social media because it's simply more accessible, especially as fans are becoming increasingly younger. Just posting a story or a time-limited post about events/invitations would suffice.

And yes, for London, I learned about it yesterday. Obviously, there will be 2 queues, and asking people who are waiting if they have paid for a pass in addition to avoid having the same misunderstanding as in Bordeaux between people who didn't know there was early access and others who didn't know there was a numbering system. In London, I'm arriving late to let the Londoners be in front, but I think it would be a good idea to implement this to avoid misunderstandings between those who have early access and who will still wait all day. 😊

March 27

On 3/26/2024 at 12:03 PM, mellody said:

At the French gigs it was the support act at 19:45 and Mika at 20:30, so I'm not sure... maybe we'll know more after the gigs in Brussels & Amsterdam?

For Berlin, Doors open at 6.30pm, Support Act (Syreeta) at 8pm and Mika at 9pm !

March 27

On 3/25/2024 at 6:15 PM, dcdeb said:

So after the incident in Lyon last week, Mika's team wanted to help make queuing a little less stressful -- so we were able to organize it so that a group of MFC fans could go in a bit early ahead of the general public. As I understand it, they just went in.

Also, Ani was able to give Mika's tour manager a bouquet of flowers and a card for Mika on behalf of the MFC as a way of saying thanks.

I just saw your post, Deb. I don't really understand why some people were favored over others. I get that with Mika's team, you wanted to streamline the queue, but why not do it with the 60 people who had been waiting since early morning? Like some sort of early access. Many fans were disappointed after waiting all day just to be bypassed at the last moment. Especially since I don't think it was checked because some people who hadn't received your message privately, got an early access by editing screenshots of your messages. I understand that you want to prioritize MFC members, but what about the others fans, many of whom had never seen Mika before and ended up in the second or even third row because other fans jumped ahead at the last moment? Wouldn't it be more fair to prioritize these people so they can also enjoy the concert? Like a rotation system among fans. I understand that it's tough for some people not to be at the front, but every person has the right to enjoy the concert. We're halfway through the tour. I'm thinking about big venues like Brussels or London. We should implement a fairer waiting system to give everyone a chance. I'm definitely open to discussing this further. 😉