OH MY! i missed quite a lot of action here i see........ i think its fair Freddie and Sarah said their peace, i can see how this thread could have been seen as 'too much' but not 'desperate' (i for one am not ) thats just offensive. I think the thread may have gone a little too far and i indeed i have played my part, but hey it was all done in good spirit, and so far everyone has had a bloody good laugh so lets appreciate that other people have their own opinions, and just get on with it all we dont want anyone falling out now do we??