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A mim também me fazem confusão algumas coisas. O facto das mulheres terem um tratamento diferente também não me passa ao lado, mas não me indigna tanto como antes (pelo menos no caso da religião islâmica). No caso particular de Omã, as mulheres têm praticamente os mesmos deveres e direitos que os homens. Apesar de ser uma sociedade conservadora e que mantém as tradições são bastante equalitários. Nos Emirados Árabes Unidos, pelo que vi, têm muitas semelhanças com Omã. Nos restantes países árabes (salvo excepções como a Arábia Saudita e o Iémen) as mulheres estão a ganhar o seu espaço e pelo que me pude aperceber (com uma colega egípcia e outra turca que também estavam a fazer intercâmbio) acho que elas também se sentem confortáveis com a posição que têm e que (muitas vezes) não conseguem mais liberdade porque não o querem.
Eu quando vim para Medicina queriaaa ir para cirurgia cardio-torácica, mas com o passar do tempo descobri que também gosto muito de outras especialidades.
E agora estou dividida entre psiquiatria, gastroenterologia e hematologia (e tb adoro nefrologia). 
Se gostas de especiarias e picante, tenho a certeza que ias adorar a comida de Omã.
Eu adorei a parte das especiarias, já o picante... vi algumas estrelinhas.
Bem, isso da cirurgia cardio-torácica é uma ideia muito objectiva mesmo! Eu não percebo nada, mas foi o que me pareceu! lol
Depois quando escolheres a especialidade avisa-me, para ver se tens paciente! LOL
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Para já estou a tirar o curso (ainda me falta algum tempo para acabar
), o intercâmbio foi tipo um estágio e foi interessante porque tive a oportunidade de estar no laboratório, mas também de ir para o hospital. Só depois de acabar o curso é que tenho obrigatoriamente de escolher uma especialidade, mas ainda há tempo. :naughty:blush-anim-clEu a parte religiosa não me afecta muito, respeito. Sei que cada país tem usos diferentes e adapto-me sem stress, apesar de não concordar com tudo. :teehee O facto de ter estado no Médio Oriente fez com que me tornasse mais tolerante com algumas coisas e menos com outras. Há sempre os dois lados da moeda. :wink2
Quanto ao susto, não foi bem um susto. Mas foi estranho ao início, porque no Dubai o Eid começou um dia mais cedo e à noite quando íamos apanhar o metro estavam militares a controlar toda a gente que saía e a proibir algumas pessoas de entrar e a por outras numa fila, tipo alto filme. E nós ao ver aquilo pensámos que se tivesse passado alguma coisa e pelo meio ainda fomos empurrados para uma das filas, mas depois lá descobrimos que aquilo era porque toda a gente tinha resolvido vir para a rua para celebrar o Eid e o metro estava a abarrotar pelas costuras e por isso estavam a racionar as entradas e a mandar as restantes pessoas para autocarros especiais destacados para aquele dia. Por acaso tinham estavam muito bem organizados, mas quando chegamos e vimos o aparato todo ainda nos assustamos um pouco, até porque estavam a gritar em árabe e nós não pescávamos nada do que estavam a dizer.
A mim incomoda-me sempre o facto de em qualquer religião a mulher ter sempre uma importância e um papel inferior ao do homem. Mas pronto, esquecemos essas questões por agora.
Eu achava que já tinhas alguma coisa em mente. Que tinhas ido para medicina com planos já feitos até seres velhinha!
Mas se tens tempo fazes bem em tomar uma decisão ponderada. Eu se estivesse num sítio cheio de gente, com essa mesma gente aos gritos, militares e filas não sei do quê, achava que era o fim do mundo. Desde que vi o filme 2012 que tenho medo de tudo.
Eheh Não é nada parva. A comida é um pouco diferente.Por acaso não tive grandes problemas, gostei bastante... Mas estou oficialmente em "fase de desintoxicação".
Lá a comida deles é arroz e frango, ao almoço e ao jantar de todas as formas e feitios. Mas sempre arroz e frango.
Como a gente trazia a comida do restaurante do hospital nunca tivemos grandes problemas com os temperos, mas lá usam imensas especiarias.
E também gostam muito de picante.
Eu gosto de especiarias e picante!
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Oiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!
Oláááaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Eheheh Fui fazer 'Research Exchange', que é um programa de intercâmbio científico da IFMSA (Federação Internacional de Estudantes de Medicina) e no qual podes ir um mês para outro país a aprender coisas novas e de caminho também se aproveita para fazer férias.Foi mesmo uma grande aventura! Mas valeu completamente a pena!
E também foi giro porque apanhei o Ramadão e no fim do mês ainda vi os primeiros dias do Eid que são as celebrações do fim do ramadão (e no Dubai quase que apanhamos um belo susto à conta disso
).Isso é muito fixe, só o meu curso não tinha dessas coisas. Estás ou vais tirar alguma especialização?
Eu gostava de explorar as arábias, mas isso dos lenços, burcas e afins não me agradam muito. Sou um bocado revoltada com isso! Aliás determinadas questões religiosas revoltam-me muito, não são só os lenços.
Porque é que apanhaste um susto?
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Yep, fui o mês de Agosto para Omã.
(E depois também aproveitei para dar um saltinho aos Emirados Árabes Unidos, já que ali estava e era o único país com que Omã faz fronteira onde me atrevia a entrar.
)Eu sou cusca.... que foste lá fazer?
Deve ter sido uma grande aventura!
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Correu tudo super bem!
Adorei o país, as pessoas são super simpáticas, a faculdade e o hopital são do melhor, o estágio foi interessante. Amei mesmo.
A parte hilariante foi toda a gente (desde árabes a indianos) estarem sempre a pergnutar-me se eu não era árabe/indiana, se não tinha ninguém na família que fosse, se tinha a certeza que não tinha origem árabe/indiana. Foi de partir a rir.
EDIT: A foto mais linda do ano!!!
Pára tudo!!!
Foste para as arábias?????
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VOLTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIII!
Err...Mary...portuguesa...meia parva...alguém ainda se lembra de mim?
Ninguém se lembra de ninguém já. Isto está em coma há muito tempo!
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Então fãs portuguesas do Mika? Há algum tempo que não vinha aqui escrever nada. Há novidades do nosso menino?
Olá
Penso que não há novidades nem dele nem de ninguém. Está tudo de férias e o nosso tópico está adormecido há algum tempo!
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Of course there are mistakes there!
SHE TOTALLY IGNORED MY CAKE.
But she remembered my sandwich....
A cake and a sandwich are more important than me!
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My much delayed report: http://ingridchant.blogspot.com/2011/08/summer-trip-finale-porto.html
Great report!!!
(With some mistakes on it)
(Just kidding)
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Thank you!
You're welcome!
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E fizeste tu muito bem, belo report, sim senhora!
Obrigada! Acho que foi o maior que escrevi até hoje! Mas também foi uma viagem grande!
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Lovely report, Liliana :thumb_yello
When I've seen him after gigs, it's always worked better when there are barriers and he isn't mobbed. I think it's harder to arrange something like that at a festival :dunno
But yes, he does seem to be on automatic pilot sometimes when he is signing - while carrying on chatting to someone else :naughty
Thanks Silver!
I don't think we need barriers! People just need to know how to behave! Is it so complicated? In Belgium, as far as I saw in the video there were no barriers! Here in Portugal I followed so many bands and never needed a barrier or a security to tell me how to behave! I followed a band that unfortunately ended a few months ago and people who usually went to the shows became like family. We were with the band when it was possible, we had to understood they needed their time and space. Believe me...more people in Portugal knew this band than they know Mika and I never saw fans having this kind of behave!
I'm not saying that we are like saints, for example, teenage bands are used to have these kind of fans and this craziness around them!But with Mika, it's like people feel they have to scream to the world and specially to Mika that they are there, they did more concerts than other fans, they travel to far away countries, bla bla bla! It's all about the competition! At least is what I'm seeing and hearing each time I go to a Mika's gig! It's sad!
Yes. I assume you mean Brixton on 28th - I wasn't there, I was just there on 26th.Yes............and for the amount of people that were there both Porto and Bendidorm could have been like Belgium. I guess to a certain extent it depends on who is there. People have just got to be a bit more restrained. If everyone had crowded in at Belgium it could well have gone the same way and I doubt that Mika would have stayed as long as he did.
You are making perfect sense :thumb_yello
Yes! Brixton 26th he immediatly jumped into his car! Smart boy!
Like you, I doubt he would be so relaxed, chatting with everyone! You guys were really lucky!
I remember, in Porto, when the car stopped and Mika got out, me and Liliana were like "are we supposed to go there or...should we line up...?" :aah and in a matter of seconds, he was surrounded.Since I was in the middle of all that, I didn't notice how bad it was, only after watching the videos I could really understand it. Meet & mess, nothing more to add. :dunno
As Liliana, I waited for my turn, got my pic signed (fortunately got him out of the "zombie state" because he looked at the pic and went like
"this pic is cool!" and I said "yeah, it was taken at Sudoeste Fest. Oh and...it's me right there!" :aah) and then gave room to other people. Didn't scream, didn't push, didn't touch him,so... But it was kinda sad to see some people surrounding him over and over again, squealing "MIKA MIKA MIKA", touching him...
Felt weird watching the videos, because it was the first time we had such a meeting with Mika, and I kept thinking "omg I hope he didn't think we are always like that! :aah:"
Anyway, it seems he needs John's touch in this stuff (or someone like John). Someone that comes out before him and says "you WILL line up and keep calm or Mika WON'T sign anything". I guess we need a couple of those situations, in order to remember that Mika doesn't owe us this kind of things, it's just something he likes to give us. But we need to give something back too.
In the first seconds I was having doubts if it was him!
I´m pretty sure this is the worst part. WHY DO PEOPLE NEED TO TOUCH HIM??I don't know! There's only one man that I want to touch and he's enough for me!
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I know....................I knew exactly what you meant
No..................I have seen him like that lots of times. But I have also seen him compelety different - and generally speaking it is in the controlled situations that he is much more relaxed. Although there were no barriers involved in Belgium I have to say that people were very controlled and just waited for Mika to make his way round to everyone. I can think of numerous M&G's where the fans have been behind barriers and Mika has been able to move at his own pace and work his way down the line. He doesn't feel threatened in these situations (or at least I doubt that he does) and he is not zombie like then.
For me, the first and scarier experience was in Brixton! But we were able to call his attention when we talked to him, so I didn't saw his hypnotic state!
I wish both Porto and Benidorm would have been like Belgium! I saw Mellody's video, even before Porto's gig and I thought that was such a cool attitude, not only from Mika but from the fans! I think people should calm down. If he come out of his car and give us a little of attention because he wants to, that is a good sign and he isn't going to run away from us. People don't need to get stressed! It's his choice, he could perfectly go away to rest on his hotel, but he does that for us. I don't know if I'm making any sense!
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I care about your report, it's fantastic, thanks for your words!
I hope you and Sergio have spent a great time in our country.Kisses :wink2
Thank you!
Yes, we had such wonderful days in Spain and Gibraltar (that I didn't know it belongs to UK
)! We arrive at Portugal still speaking a little bit of spanish! Great report missy! Glad everything went well, and that you had fun! :biggrin2:huglove
I'm sorry for not been so connected to internet, but it's quite expensive if we don't find a wi-fi!
I love the way this reads. You met some LOVELY people....................and Kath:naughtyI agree with a lot of your points here............and I love the Meet and mess name - I have been trying to think of a more relevant term then Meet and greet for a while! You are right about Mika being in a hypnotic state where he barely even looks at what he is signing or certainly at who he is signing it for. This is in total contrast to the 'relaxed' meet and greets (like in Belgium) which he really seems to enjoy. It all goes wrong when there is no (or poor) organisation. It just becomes a free for all and a rugby scrum. Everyone for themselves and you will always get those that will not move off when they have had their moment.
I, like you, gave up. As I did in Porto. I just held the camera above my head and pressed the button - I certainly couldn't see anything and didn't even try to speak to Mika. But then I had been lucky to be in Belgium where as I said, it was lovely. I don't have a need to speak to him everytime - but I don't like to see him being crowded.
Thank you for your lovely detailed report.
It wasn't supposed to be interpretated like that!
I wanted to distinguish the spanish people from you, a foreign person like me! I'm sorry! Blame it on my stupid english! In Porto I didn't wanted to give up so easily, I just did in the group pic! But when he signed my photo (like I said without even looking at it or at me) I went to the back, waiting for him to finish the signing thing, to take the group pic with us!
Till today, I think that I'm having the correct behavior, not pushing or being agressive when he appears, but probably some people who act like that, think they are right and they are laughing right now!
And I'm glad I'm not the only person notice the zoombie hypnotic state that he usually have! The first time I saw it, I thought I was being neurotic or something!
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Part III
After the show I found the Spanish group in the middle of the crowd. We exchange some comments about the gig and then decided to find where were the artists’ entrance. I got lost from the group and found the entrance in first. Sent a message to Rosa and then she called me, now imagine how it was to explain in Spanish where I was and how she could get there! I’m very bad in giving directions to people, especially if it’s not in Portuguese.
Mika took a little longer to appear in comparison with Porto and more people were gathering around the entrance. Like I said to Mary through message, it was a bit calmer, but still… I think the name "Meet&Mess" fits perfectly!
I love the fact that, after a tiring show, Mika decides to appear and give some attention to his fans, but this could start to be a “dangerous” thing to him. First of all, people will start to expect him to do this always, and when he won't do it, it will be the end of the world. Besides, if people know by antecipation that he might appear to give some autographs, more people would appear and consequently, it'll become messier.
In Marés Vivas I could manage an autograph. This time I just gave up. I didn't wanted to be in the same circle of confusion like the last time. I was in the back of the people in my tiptoes, trying to see him and if I had the chance that he look at me, saying a quick "hi".
I think Mika is afraid of being surrounded by so many people, specially when they are really near him, touching him, calling for him all at the same time. I think he's lucky for having that high. I just noticed that, in these kinds of moments, Mika is completely hypnotic, signing photos and other stuff, coming back into the real world when he sees someone that he knows. I think this is a way of protection. Because of this hypnotic state, the bodyguards were really upset (I heard them talk) because they were trying to force Mika taking a pic with a security woman. She was leaning on him, smiling to the camera and Mika continued signing photos that people put in front of his face. They gave up of the photograph and said that he wasn't very nice.
These meet&mess killed my nerves because of the security people. In a certain time, they were denying me to be near Mika, put themselves in front of him because they wanted to take photos of his face and then of the security women and Mika. They were supposed to guard him.
Besides the security people, some fans went crazy, like I expected. Nothing special besides pushing, talking loud, not leaving him even after having their stuff signed.
I loved this experience. It was really tiring, especially because I had to drive so many kilometres each day, but I saw fantastic places.
I wish I could do this again in a few weeks, because that would mean that I would see Mika again! I don’t know how I will handle without gigs till next year!
I’m sorry for my giant report and please forgive my english errors! I guess I never wrote anything so bigger!
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Part II
I went to Marés Vivas but I felt like I didn’t saw him for ages. It was so good to see him again.
I was super excited to this gig as I was to Marés Vivas, although I felt less connection in Benidorm. :boxed:I know some people wrote the opposite, but that was how I felt. Like I said to Rosa in the end of the show, people around me weren’t as excited as me, neither as the people that was around me in Marés Vivas. They were just clapping and singing the singles or when he asked to. I’m not saying they were a bad crowd or they didn’t like him, or it wasn’t a good gig, I’m saying (in my opinion) it wasn’t as good as Marés Vivas.
I enjoyed the concert and felt intensely every second of it, since it was the last one of this year, but I didn’t liked the “Torero and toro” thing. I don’t understand why he does that, and to be honest I didn’t wanted to participate in that “competition”. Bullfighting goes against of so many things that I believe. I don’t want to develop this subject since some people may like these kinds of things, but for me it was a very negative thing in the gig.
Besides that unhappy moment, I loved to see him smiling and jumping all the time. I couldn’t believe when he said that he only arrived 25 minutes before the show and he was full of energy.
Like some people said, the set list was the same as Marés Vivas, but with Touches You. Finally I could hear this song again. I don’t know what is going on between this song and me, but I feel like I’m possessed every time I hear it. :aah:I wasn’t expecting hearing it on Benidorm, since he didn’t play in Porto, so when I heard the first chords I wanted to jump on stage and dance like crazy. Happy Ending was another great moment and Imma was amazing that night, like always is.
I was able to record “Touches You” but it isn’t a great video. It was hard to pretend that I was photographing and not filming.
So, another great show. No need to queue early. No rain at all. The weather was so good. Everything was perfect for a magical night, but I still missed some of my portuguese friends.
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Part I
Probably by this time no one cares about my report, but since I said I would do it, now I’m going to write everything that I remember.
I have to mention that, this entire journey was made by car with me driving all the time. It was more or less 2200Km. I started in Porto and finished in Algarve, where I’m now. It was tiring but a great and specially a different experience.
So, I left home last tuesday in direction to Madrid. It was great to re-visit some of the places that I love in the city. In the next day I had to go to Benidorm, for three days and half of beach, noise, confusion and a lot of more things. These kinds of places are not my ideal of places to be on vacations, I love beach and warm water, but I don’t like to be so surrounded by so many people, but I enjoyed the best that I could.
On Friday I decided to sleep till lunch. It rained in the morning, the sky was grey and it was a little bit windy, so I decided to rest that day, since the concert was predicted to end very late. After lunch I went to the beach, took a very relaxing bath, ate a lovely sandwich from sybway and went to the festival. This time, I decided not to queue early like the rest of the people. Honestly I’m getting tired of all the madness in the last concerts and I don’t want to be “involved” on the same “wave” of craziness. I knew the possibility of find a place in front row it would be almost none, but maybe I would get lucky like in Benicassim, where I arrived at 10 p.m. at the festival and got front row with no effort and without stealing anyone’s place.
So, I arrived around 7.pm. at the festival and immediately went to say “hi” to Rosa and the rest of the lovely Spanish people. I saw Kath too! Just had a little chat and then I saw that, the front and second row centre was a little bit crowded! I decided to leave there and went to the bathroom. By that time, the concerts were about to start. I saw a little bit of the first band in the middle of the crowd, then I realised that were a free place in the left side of the stage, completely in the left, but at least I was in the barriers. :thumb_yello:So, I could rest my body there without being squeezed and I didn’t had no one in front of me too, so I would have a chance to take a few pics and videos. Like I suspected, most of the people went away in the end of each performance, like in Benicassim. The most positive thing is that, besides front and second row, people weren’t stressed about their place, they were enjoying and having fun, drinking and eating first and then they went back near the stage. So, because of this relaxed environment, I could be sat without anyone trying to steal my place, and went to the bathroom around 10 p.m. with no problem at all. That was like heaven.
I really enjoyed the Ok Go’s performance. They were really funny and very entertaining, but I cannot say the same thing about the first and third performance.
Security guys were being really stupid with some people.
Always complaining with everything. Water or food wasn't allowed, no videos, no professional cameras or big cameras (since they think big is the same as professional), bla bla bla. I saw some of them checking brands and models of cameras and if people were really photographing or filming. After all that, I thought they wouldn’t allow me to put my flag in the barriers (since we weren’t allowed to put our bags there too), but for my surprise they said I could. My beautiful flag that goes with me in all my foreign adventures. 7 till now!The set was being prepared and the excitement was growing… Here’s Mika again!
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MIKATUBE http://mikatube.com/archive/index.php?option=com_hwdvideoshare&task=viewvideo&Itemid=56&video_id=611
D/L-link by Nicoleta (11.45 MB)-- http://www.mediafire.com/?k8s3y6juaa719tg
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MIKATUBE -- http://mikatube.com/archive/index.php?option=com_hwdvideoshare&task=viewvideo&Itemid=56&video_id=610
D/L link by Nicoleta (17.89 MB) -- http://www.mediafire.com/?noku15w6m8afryq
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MIKATUBE http://mikatube.com/archive/index.php?option=com_hwdvideoshare&task=viewvideo&Itemid=56&video_id=612
D/L link by Nicoleta (16 MB)-- http://www.mediafire.com/?ldbx8jjrd2bb4q5
Thank you! Now it's working!
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LOL
Sorry, entretanto desliguei isto e já nem li a tua resposta!
Amanhã a gente cumbersa!
Olha e eu ontem comecei a escrever o report de Benidorm, quase que adormecia com o pc em cima, tive que o acabar agora! LOL
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I can d/l the first one, but it's not about Mika
for the others I can ask Nicoleta
Thank you very much! I would appreciate that!
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Finally I could read everything today! Not only from Benidorm, but from Marés Vivas too. I promise I'll try to write a proper report tomorrow!
Hi!!!It´s a bit "bitter".... cause my best memories of meeting people are both in Portugal, first time in Lisbon, and second time in Porto. And only few people came to Benidorm, in fact, apart from Spanish friends, only Liliana and Kath were there (and I met Vicky
), so if this gig would had been in Porto, I could say it was the best gig of my life.Oh, my stepdaughter came with me (she´s 12) and he absolutely loved Mika.
It should be the gig of your life because I was there!
more things to update, Guy[YOUTUBE]QjuObWlWmms[/YOUTUBE]
I can see Sérgio's head and myself on my tiptoes trying to see Mika!
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I need some help! I tried from different ways and I can't download some videos. I actually tried the links that were posted in here and they didn't work for me.
Could anyone download these videos and send them for me?
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/lazer/musica/mares-vivas-setenta-mil-foram-na-onda
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:boing:
Eu sei o que queres tu!
:roftl:Queres que vá ao msn?
E agora estou dividida entre psiquiatria, gastroenterologia e hematologia (e tb adoro nefrologia). 
), o intercâmbio foi tipo um estágio e foi interessante porque tive a oportunidade de estar no laboratório, mas também de ir para o hospital. Só depois de acabar o curso é que tenho obrigatoriamente de escolher uma especialidade, mas ainda há tempo. :naughty:blush-anim-cl
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Pronto trabalho ela já tem.
(Só agora vi a tua assinatura. Muito munita
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