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hey everyone! wow, its' been a while....how are you all?

That's so exciting about new stuff being released! wow!!!

And we now have a date for the TII dvd...Jan 26th wohoooo

AWWWWWWW!!!

 

Sucks you missed out on the walk, but very cool that you got to meet Zac...

 

Have you uploaded the pic of you and Zac?

You saw it on my facebook, right?

Ooooooooooooh! I love those vids! And Zac really needs to sing lead vocals more often...

Yes!! Exactly! When I met him I said "your rendition of Use Me Up was just...amazing" and you could see he really appreciated it, he looked into my eyes and said "oh, thank you!" *swoon* LOL

OK I took a lot!

Been There Before:

World's on Fire:

Carry You There:

Penny and Me1:

Penny and Me 2 (zoomed in):

A Song to Sing:

Use Me Up

These Walls:

Crazy Beautiful:

If Only:

Mmmbop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xeQVSPHkmg

Aaaaah I saw the guys last night!!!!!

If anyone's interested, here's what happened:

On Sat I had gone to bed at about 2; we were in town for Halloween...which was CRAZY..

So I got up at 5 to get the early bus as I wanted to do The Walk

BUT the 7am bus never arrived....They said the driver got sick and they were sending another, but it'd be almost 2hrs. In the end, they didn't send another one! They just put us on the next bus, which was at 10.50...so yeah, 5 hours waiting at the station! I couldn't believe it. So I didn't get to Dallas until 3, which means I had missed the walk.

Anyway, the station was only a ten minute walk from the venue, so when I got there I saw Taylor just heading inside from the walk. I met up with 5 girls from the fanclub and we had dinner, and then queued up at 5, and the doors opened at 6. I got to about 8 rows from the front There were 3 support bands, which were pretty good.

Hanson came on at 9.30, and whoaaaa do they put on a show...they played a great mixture of old and new stuff, and it was fun cos I knew all of it, and they really get the crowd going. They're so talented.... They played for a full 2 hours and it was just brilliant!! I especially loved If Only, World's On Fire and Zac's BEAUTIFUL version of Use Me Up....OMG he should do more lead vocals! I got a great vid of it.

Afterwards we went around to the buses.. I really wanted to meet Zac. He came out after close to an hour, and he met with everyone, signed things, talked, took pictures. He's so nice. When he heard I was from Ireland he was like: "whoooaaa...what brings you to Dallas?!" and I told him I was studying in Austin. We took a pic (my now favourite photo in my life, ever...lol)

and when he was moving onto the next person he said, "good luck with your studies" Oh he's a sweetheart. I knew Isaac and Tay would be a while and I had to catch my bus, so I left, but I had fulfilled my dream of meeting Zac! Love those guys!!!!!!

I will post links as soon as my vids are uploaded

You´re gonna be surprised. He looked thin, but to me, he doesn´t look that sick & frail like some tabloids or some people (karen*cough*faye*cough cough*) tried to make us believe. I know the movie is made on speficic moment and embellishing the possible bad things, but, for me, it doesn´t matter. He dances amazing, he controls everything & the most important thing: his voice was on its top

 

And it makes me sad that his brilliant idea, his show..never took place

I agree with everything you said.

*hugs*

I just got back from Dallas and an amzing Hanson concert....

Hope everyone's well..I've work to catch up on so not here much right now! Love to all

xxx

You took the words out of my mouth.

 

Okay, so I just came back from it. My thoughts? It was amazing. As first I wasn't really too sure what to expect, but every single part was enjoyable. It made me laugh, it made me cry (right now, I'm still tearing!), and most of all, it made me appreciate Michael so much more. I love Thriller and Earth Song, they're outstanding, but really, there wasn't a dull moment. I was worried I'd be a little upset after seeing it. But after the credits rolled, and the bonus scene played, it left me with a complete feeling. If there's one thing I learned from this film, it's that Michael truly loves his fans. Kenny Ortega did a brilliant job with this. It was raw, it was real, and it really was it.

yes yes and yes. wonderful. I'm glad you loved it too

Sorry I haven't been around.......conferences, exams, talks......and Michael-related emotion. I'm actually heading to bed now lol..

Love to all

xxx

OK I'm not going to give anything away, but I have to say a few things.

He still had it.

He could sing and dance as spine-chillingly amazing as ever, it is just unbelievable that he was 50.

There is a lot of love and joy in this. You can see these little smiles on his face when he's performing. He's such a tease as well. And you see Michael the man, as well as the genius...how he has these instincts about the music and these sounds in his head....whoa. And his sense of humour is wonderful and so cute!

You will all love it.

OK I have an exam to do.....

Love to all

xxx

Off to AMsterdam in a few hours....

 

I'm exited in a way about goign to the premiere....who's gonna be there, whats it gonna be like on the red carpet, will we have a videoconnection with Los Angeles, etcetc...

Its still gonna be difficult though

LLast chance to see Michael on a big screen, his last weeks...pfffff....

 

Anyway, we're with a group of around 30-40 people, mostly dressed in MJ-style.

It'll probably be on the show-news here in Holland, look out for a big-ass dreadlocked fan in black and silver...LOL, thats me.

Oh cool!!! Have fun! (is that the right thing to say? )

I'm going at 11pm tonight, that's 10 hours away....oh man....

That's beautiful. If I wasn't ready for TIS before, I am now. When I woke up this morning, I just felt peace, which is something I don't think I've felt for a while. I know I won't be seeing it for a few days yet, but now I'm really excited.

 

Thanks for posting everything you guys! Love you all!

Oh I'm really glad!! You're right, it will be happy...so so emotional and I'm sure some pain in there too, but I bet it will be joyous.

sori guys hvn't checked this thread out for some time again!! miss u all:blush-anim-cl:

only managed to skim several pages and i'm glad that i did!! coz i forgot the TII mosaic till seeing some of u mention earlier.... unfortunately i'm not at any part of his body, but the whole thing's still awesome!!!

 

and Niamh, ur Thrill The World vids are brilliant!!!

glad that u had fun that day:thumb_yello:

 

 

i didn't follow Ms Taylor before and when i saw that she TWEETED, i actually wondered if u meant BLOGGED:teehee: it's lovely.... but to a point it's making me a little bit sad when i was reading. Michael....

 

to be frank, i'm still feeling kind of strange for making the whole TII release like... celebration?! is it necessary to hv red carpet or even live coverage from the premiere??? sori if my opinion is wrong, but i juz can't get this idea:boxed:

Thanks! It was fun!

I know, she tweets - she's great!!

Yes I know what you mean...it is weird. On MJJC there's a competition to win TII backstage passes for what should have been the London concerts....that kind of freaked me out. I know they're trying to have something to celebrate, but man......

oh i know! i think it's man in the mirror if am not mistaken?you know,the bad casting and acting.also the shallow dialogues urghhh but i'm not too sure whether it's that movie or not.i forgot what the actor's name is,but he sounds like some guy who had a flu.wylie draper was better as Michael in the An American Dream movie.and that white makeup,ewww..

 

today,i put my mp3 on shuffle mode so random tracks were playing.suddenly it came to 'Will U B There?' (which i usually skip to avoid crying).then i thought of Mike,and then my dad.i wonder how they're doing up there.i burnt my afternoon nap sobbing away under my pillow.too depressing.i wonder if i can handle TII.

I have no idea, but sounds like it!

Oh hun, You know it's ok to feel like that! I have no doubt they're surrounded by love and are with you every time you think of them. I'm here if you need me.

Have you guys read what Elizabeth Taylor tweeted about TII? I love her.

I was honored with the great privilege of seeing "This Is It" last week. I was sworn to secrecy, but now I can let you know about it.

It is the single most brilliant piece of filmmaking I have ever seen. It cements forever Michael's genius in every aspect of creativity.

To say the man is a genius is an understatement. He cradles each note, coaxes the music to depths beyond reality.

I wept from pure joy at his God given gift. There will never, ever be the likes of him again.

And we have this piece of film to remind us forever and ever that once there was such a man. God kissed him.

God blessed him and squandered nothing, but loved it all. Michael knew how to put together every tone, every nuance to make magic.

To say he was a genius seems so little. I wish my vocabulary encompassed what I feel.

You owe it to yourselves and your loved ones to see this again and again. Memorize it and say to yourselves, "I saw genius in my lifetime"

I loved genius in my lifetime. God was so good to me. I will love Michael forever and so will you, if you don't already

I hope I don't sound condescending. I'm sure you already know what I'm talking about, but go to see it again and again.

I meant to repeat myself. I love you. I remember Michael loved you. He was totally up to now and the message of today in all his songs.

If you listen to his lyrics they are those of a modern day prophet and it beseeches us to listen to him and what he sang.

I won't use words like preaching because that is off-putting, but listen. Listen to his messages.

From "Black And White", "Man In The Mirror". The inspiration behind "We Are The World". We must take his words of responsibility seriously.

We cannot let his life be in vain / and always done with love. Remember that. Remember him and thank God for him and his genius.

Kenny Ortega did a masterful job of directing the process that goes into making a complete show before hitting the stage.

From A to Z you get Michael's input on every level. Michael's genius at work with the dancers. Mr. Ortega catches Michael in his every mood.

You see in front of your eyes Michael's genius blossoming on this piece of film thanks to Kenny Ortega and his crews.

I truly believe this film should be nominated in every category conceivable.

Gah! That's amazing! There are so many people!

it was so wonderful

That film you mentioned...I don't know if it's the same one, but I think it might be: at the MJ singalong last week, before it started they were showing some scenes from this movie, and it's one of the worst I've ever seen... the acting, the costumes, it's all so artificial, and also, Michael was NOT happy about it. Again, I don't know if it is the same one, but it sounds like it. I didn't know Diego Luna was in it; he's usually pretty good...

EDIT: wait no sorry, I just checked the trailer for the one you mentioned, and it's NOT the same one. My bad! That one looks kinda cute actually. I do like Diego.... Maybe Chantelle will know which film I was talking about...man it was bad!

Thrill the World! Did anyone else take part?

OK here are my vids, they were of the last rehearsal before the real thing. So much fun!!!

The first one shows more of the dance and the second one gives a better idea of how many people there were! (We don't have the official count but about 800).

There was such an amazing atmosphere..everyone dancing together in honour of Michael When we were doing the real thing, I really really felt him there

As you can see it was outdoors and afterwards it was like an outdoor nightclub, they played about 3 hours of MJ music vids on a giant screen...it was like a concert. So much fun!

haha I just logged in to post that link.....I love it!

hey all! how is everyone?

I signed that petition...... besides that guy already proven to be fake, I think it's insulting to the family to do something like that live on tv.

Yesterday I went thrift store shopping with my housemates, and I suddenly got inspired for Halloween...now, I haven't told anyone else that I'm going as MJ, but I knew all of y'all in here would figure that anyway BUT I'm still keeping it a secret what genre/look of MJ's I'll be going as... so many to choose from! However, I will give ye a sneak peek of what I picked up for $10!!

oh yeah I did

I have a question to one phrase in "By the time":

 

By the time I'm dreaming

and you've crept out on me sleeping

 

What does "crept out" mean? All translations I found doesn't make sense

It just means to leave quietly. To creep means to move quietly when you don't want to make any noise, so in this line it means that the person left the room/house while he was asleep, without waking him.

(Whoa, I haven't been in this thread for ages!)

we had a thread for this before, if anyone's interested

http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14115

oh wow!! Now that's a great video!!!

hi, how are y'all???

life's been so busy these days i even hv no time to lurk here....

hope everyone's doing well!!

 

i only try to know more a bit the TINI thingy now and it scared me.

those testimonies juz made me upset and of coz, confused and confused.

not sure which side i'm going to but it has definitely changed my expectations of the movie

 

 

xoxo

Oh honey

we're all confused. But I still want to see the film. Have you seen the clips? He's as amazing as ever, if not better...it will make you happy to see him perform to the best of his incredible abilities. This is what he wanted everyone to see; this is his dream. I know it didn't turn out the way anyone wanted, and yes, he probably was worked too hard, and we don't know what he suffered, but nothing changes the fact that he wanted to show the world that he is still the greatest, and always will be. So go, rejoice, cry, and love. Becasue that's what I'll be doing anyway.

xxx

hmmm. I would just lurk in the background for awhile. So, you're not sold on something they've come up with - It doesn't mean everything they've said is wrong thus far. I actually tried to join the MJ death hoax forum a few times when I had something really important to add to a discussion, but for some reason they had problems with new members getting approved. By the time they finally approved my account, 2 weeks later, I had completely lost interest in the topics because they were dissecting the most trivial things. But I still like to lurk.

 

So, make your own assumptions. And good on you for saying what you felt. I think also, talking about it here, in our thread makes a difference because we all know each other and there's more respect. Love to you too

 

EDIT::

I thought I'd just slot this into the end of this post

I was checking out the MJHD forum, and there's alot of people on there saying that the thisisNOTit people are whack..

Have a look for yourselves. http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/this-is-not-it-now-they-are-really-going-to-far/

That's a good point. I guess maybe they're onto something. But another thing that makes me a bit cautious of them is that these people kind of stalked Michael. They literally followed him everywhere. Reading their testimonies, they were outside the doctor's office, outisde his house, outside rehearsals, outside shopping malls...so aside from disrespecting his privacy, they clearly didn't have their own lives, I can imagine that now they're panicking trying to hold onto something..

And thanks for the link. Wow, do people really still believe it was a hoax?

sorry that i haven't been around much lately.haven't been well and i've been in a lurking mood

 

 

 

i so agree! i knew it reminded me of another song of his,but i couldn't recall which one,it IS IMO another part of me.

well about the campaign,i think they're pushing it a little too far too.they mad eit look like mike is too vulnerable.he may think like a child at times but that doesn't mean he doesn't do some adult thinking too.they should seriously give it a rest or rather,try to prove it in a less harsh way.

Yeah it defintely reminds me of that song!

I agree.....there's a line and they've really crossed it. That video (it's also linked to in the link Kelzy gave) was in bad taste.

Hope you feel better

Why not? Do you have a spending problem like I do? DTD used to be $15 on Amazon, but all of sudden there was a price hike and it's $30! Not cool.

 

I know. It makes me happy just to see him dancing the TIS commercials, in his funky 80's blazers and sequined pants. Oh, how I love thee, Michael.

I used to be ok with money, but lately, online shopping has gotten the better of me

hehe, you've said it all.

 

I noticed that about the boards. It's disturbing. I just don't know what to believe, but I always felt something was wrong about the whole situation.

 

 

I don't know what's worse. The knowing, or the not knowing. I wish Michael could rest in peace. But something tells me he won't until the truth is exposed.

 

I feel the same, but my friend said to me last night - "You'll never know the truth" and, unfortunately, I think she's right. There's too many men with money and power involved in this for it to be exposed.

 

And I agree with that to. We all have to be careful about what we believe. I don't think the media is always wrong. And I don't think these investigative sites are always right. But I do like to read both and weigh it up with my own reasoning and instincts..

And, about the "This is Not it vs. This is it" - It's all a catch 22 situation. Example: We either boycott all Michael Jackson products, in which these mongrels profit by it, or we weigh it all up and say "At least MJ's estate will also profit by it".. If I could I would put every cent I spend on MJ into his mother's hands. But that's not how it works.

Thanks Kelzy. I'm still confused by it. I agree that something wasn't right, but it's hard ot know what's true.....You're right, both sides seem to be extremes. I think originally the TINI campaign came from the right place, but it's kind of been hijacked by overly-emotional fans who are brainwashing others....

Today I got into a huge debate/discussion/argument with the TINI facebook group.. there must be like 70 comments on a video they linked to. They made this awful video of the TII but putting in disturbing quotes, and it just, IMO paints MJ as weak and manipulated. Me and about 3 others were saying that they'd gone too far, and MAN did we get attacked!! I was proud of myself that I kept my cool and was respectful, just repeating that I felt Micahel and his family just want privacy, and trying to go into his personal life and issues is just disprespectful, and that we should pay tribute to him and what he has given us without exposing every detail. So their attitude convinced me more that I don't want to be a part of what they're doing. So that's that....

I'm off to bed....hope eveyrone's well. Love to all.

xxx

Sometimes I wonder if many people do think about these thinks, and just not voice them. I'll try to get Elmo's VISA this weekend and order the book, although my wallet will cry. I spent $300 in less than a month with my debit card. GAH. Do you think I should just wait until I get some other income?

 

I clicked on the link and the video loaded, but then I panicked and decided I didn't want to hear them after all. LOL. Not right now, at least. But I'll take your word for it until then.

I don't think I should be advising you on money matters, lol.... but Dancing the Dream shouldn't cost that much. I guess have a look around and see how much you can get it for?

OK, whenever you feel ready. But there's something joyful about it... he still had it... better than ever, if possible

Wow, that's gorgeous. Very appropriate, don't you think? Maybe Michael was more in tune with all this spiritual stuff than we thought! I can see that making a very cool tattoo too. I'm probably going to go crazy with ideas once I get the book.. LOL!

 

 

 

Whoa. That's interesting. Mattola made a big mistake with Lindsay, but a great investment with Mika. Personally, I'm not seething over the news that TIS is from the 80's. I don't see it making much different.

 

Edit: Hey! This is cool, Thriller was originally called "Starlight Sun/Love". I'm glad it changed, it makes more sense, but the knocking beat in the background sounds great! I wish they'd kept that. :/

I know, it's gorgeous isn't it? You're right, he was in tune with, I don't know, higher dimensions? He definitely saw things in a way that not many people can.... You will love the book. I cry everything time I read a bit. I feel like I'm really connecting with him.....

That thing about Thriller is cool, hahaha

Also, new vocals!!!

amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing

I´m boiling right now.

I don´t know if someone else commented on this, but Sony was saying that "This Is It" was a demo from Dangerous Era and i believe it their info. I didn´t take further search until now and this was...WRONG!

I´ve read an article someone translated to spanish (i wish i could find the original one) quite interesting. One of the big bosses in Sony admitted that they looked into michael´s unreleased songs archive, found a "This is It" song and took it. Only because fans caught them in their lies

This is the info of the song

 

This is it / Michael Jackson.

Type of Work: Music

Registration Number / Date: PAu000668598 / 1984-11-16

Title: This is it / Michael Jackson. ... Saiba mais

Description: 1 sound cassette.

Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music

Date of Creation: 1980

Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Jackson.

 

Masterplan, isn´t it? No one will ever know about the origins of the song but Sony made an EPIC FAIL

Actually, Michael gave the song to a singer called Safire in 1991, calling it "I´ve Never Heard"

You can listen it here

 

And Sony didn´t know that. They just took the demo and add things to it I still like the song but i´m utterly disappointed. Sony always fail. And i really expect to listen the real demo of the song, without siblings & sh!t

 

/rant over

hey girl

yeah I heard this morning about that other version....but well, it doesn't change much for me because Michael still wrote it. And I prefer his version to Safire's

Micahel made it very clear that Sony are f*ckers (pardon my language) so it doesn't surprise me that they've made this EPIC FAIL. But I still enjoy the song... it's still Michael.

xxx

Yes, promoting MJ's legacy is the most important thing now. TBH I think we'll never know the truth... There will always be mysteries, legends, like in the case of Marylin Monroe or Elvis... However, this doesn't really make me feel less disturbed by Michael's death. Especially when I watch his London press conference from last March. He DOES speak and act different. I can't stop asking myself WHY his loving (?) family and friends didn't notice something wasn't right there? I was just an onlooker and to me watching Michael in that state was just terrifying. I seriously could not believe how he was going to do a 50 show comeback.... 25th June has been the saddest day of my life...

I agree. You're right, he did seem different that day. But I guess we'll never know. All we can do is celebrate what he has given us...

You know, I was thinking about how to answer this, and I was reminded of Star Wars and Leia and Han Solo's whole "I love you", "I know" moment. And I think I was reading about how people consider that a true testament to love or something, that you don't need to tell the other person that you love them back. Hmm...

 

But anyway, thanks. (Can I say that? LOL)

 

 

It's the sort of thing I want tattoo'd on me. It suits Michael's current situations beautifully, I think. That he can fee all the love from everyone and he's in a safe and peaceful place and all that. Sigh. It's great.

 

Don't you guys sort of think the whole song reflects Michael's relationship with his fans? Hmm.

awwh that's really sweet, I like that.

Oh wow that'd be a perfect tattoo..it's so appropriate.

It reminds me of a line from one fo the poems in Dancing the Dream:

From Bliss I came

In Bliss I am sustained

To Bliss I return

Don´t believe things you´ve read like 100%sure. I know you´re smart enough to draw the line between all the info we´re getting, but i think "this is not it" is as disturbing as other claimings people have said or not in these 3 months.

Nobody is full black or full white, not even those fans "seeking" for the truth.

Lots of people have lost their minds over Mike´s death and they´re relying themselves in people who claim to have the naked truth. I don´t believe it either.

 

Read, ponder, a draw your own conclusions. Don´t let a single website lead your mind about it.

 

I like the new song, even it´s from the Dangerous Era

I appreciate your input...cos I know when so many emotions are involved, it's REALLY hard to see things clearly. I think you're right; nothing is ever black and white. I guess maybe we have to accept that we'll never truly know what happened, we won't ever know what was going on in his life, and even if we could know, it wouldn't bring him back.

So thanks for directing me away from that....I was beginning to reconsider anyway, and I'm glad you've helped. I still think there are things that need to be found out, but it's more important to promote his legacy.

xxx

 

niamh,i knew it was from the 80s! not too sure about the re-recording thing though.his speaking voice in the song sounded like it was recorded during the thriller or bad era.idk,just my instincts.could it be?it has been kept THAT long? and the music,it does sound a bit 80ish.

 

it is rather suspicious.before,i have been thinking a lot about it.i'm not too sure whether you girls have noticed anything strange about our dear mike in his last rehearsal clip.did you notice that he was constantly holding his waist?at first i thought it was another one of those crazy new moves he invented but after watching the footage repeatedly,i sensed that somethign was amiss.i didn't dare to bring it up since it was just a one-minute-and-a-half clip and my judgements may have flaws,but right now since peopel are bringing this up,i think i SHOULD bring it forward.i knew he was in pain and culdn't manage to fully give 'his all' to the rehearsals.

 

btw,thanks for sharing hun! i'll try to help them out somehow.i smell a rat at the rehearsals.

hey girl!

Now that I've heard the full song (and love it ) yeah I agree, it sounds like the Bad era...one part of it keeps reminding me of Another Part of Me.

Yesssss I know what you're talking about. And I think you mentioned that way back, right? He doesn't look healthy. But that doesn't mean he couldn't've succeeded....The way I see it, the movie is a good idea as long as people understand that it has been manipulated, that AEG are showing the parts where Michael was at his best, and not how he was suffering and how they made him do it. That's what the campaign is about; making people aware of that. But I understand if that upsets people.