LeiRe

If the cap fits wear it.

No, thank you. The cap doesn't fit us at all.

I feel like we're repeating all over again… There are none so deaf as those who will not hear. So, as far as we're concerned, it’s over. But all these beautiful things weren’t said in general, were said referring to the girls who entered the M&G, that is, us. If anyone wants to check it out, it’s clear enough earlier on in this thread.

Feel free to read...

 

And it’s not our intention to “rant over”; tired of this already.

 

 

 

 

You can be so sure we do!!

Agree on everything!

Happy new year everyone!

I totally agree discussing these things after so much time is tedious, even for us, who have just heard of them. However, having read PurpleCat’s last post I think you’ll understand we just had to explain our point of view. We have taken this thread up with the best of intentions, that is, in order to prevent this sort of things from happening again. We felt so bad when we read certain unfair comments…

So, we'd like to make a few last points before hopefully settling the question.

Robi (who we know and trust to be a good person, and also an honest one) said that one of the girls (you said you were the only ones there, and that you spoke to her?) had given her a rude reply

We said we were the only non MFCers in the M&G (well, except for PurpleCat, even though you didn’t know each other). She spoke to me, but it was during the gig, not in the meeting.

No doubt she’s a good person. I usually take for granted everybody is, until they prove it wrong.

Anyway, as PurpleCat has already hinted, had it been all just about a supposed rude reply, we wouldn’t have even bothered to say a word.

Im sorry that this didnt work? did it ? I thought it was ok in the end

Once again, we wouldn’t question your good job even if we hadn’t finally entered, whatever next!

About this message I can assumed that she didn’t know him “That guy, Freddie I think”, and even like that she entered with the people whose name was on the list… “so after some begging, he let me in”.

And liliana, I’m so sad you didn’t manage to get in, honestly. We thought all MFCers were in when we entered. Ours was really just a matter of luck.

I knew Freddie was a moderator, and I think I had seen him before, but it was not until that day and after reading this thread that I associated the name with the guy himself. I just said “por favor” (please) to him a thousand times... I personally don’t think begging someone for access (as I take it, not the same as pushing; and of course not family, management, etc.), when it’s the only thing you can do to get what you want, and as long as you don’t hurt anyone by doing it, is something you should feel ashamed of, but of course each person has a different set of values, so respectable.

To Leire, I would also like to add that the fact that Mika said "hasta manana" when you said goodbye to him in Benicassim is his standard response when people tell him that they will see him tomorrow/next tuesday, so I would not take this like a message implying "I will see you backstage tomorrow after the gig."

 

I'm not being bitchy, just clarifying in case it was intended in this way in your message, which was the impression that I got . He is nice and always says that sort of thing .

I know. I didn’t mean it that way, of course. I don’t have such a prodigious imagination...

Thanks for clarifying, anyway.

And thanks also for your video!

Here it is:

 

 

http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15509

 

 

Thanks!!

No doubt it’s useful…

I do remember very clearly some people jumping the stage fence (I saw them) and a few people who were not on the list, coming into the meeting afterwards.

We can tell for sure they weren’t the same persons. We are the ones who entered the meeting, walking quietly as you all did, not jumping the stage fence. We have no idea what the others finally did.

Now I'm not saying anything about whether they should/shouldn't have been there [/color]

Nor are we…

I do recall Robi saying earlier on that she had excanged some words with them. Would that be you, PurpleCat and Leire?

Yes, I exchanged a few words with her, and she seemed nice to me.

And would you girls be by any chance the ones that were next to us at the gig, on the left hand side of the front row?

No, we weren’t. I see PurpleCat has already answered to your question.

I don't mean to be rude but I don't even know who you are, let alone be able to even hint as to who jumped over the fence or pushed us, so no need for either of us to apologise.

Not rude at all!

I don’t know you either, but the fact is that some people said in this thread days after the gig that it was the girls who entered the M&G who did all that and who misbehaved (addressing us as *words I wouldn't like to repeat* and even involving us in supposed past problems that we have not the least idea about – you can all check this out if you feel like it), and that’s simply not true because we are the girls who entered (there were no more) and we didn’t act like that.

If they would have said just that there were girls who acted that way, in general terms, we wouldn’t have felt referred to, knowing that we didn’t.

So that’s it.

And you’re right, there’s no need to apologise. What we aim to is not to be charged with unpleasant incidents in the future and, if possible, not to be insulted. In other words, to be respected.

I agree also with whoever posted earlier, no matter what you say, your English puts some native speakers to shame!

Thank you so much!

What a big surprise, I would never have thought that…

At the moment it is. But that may change in the future.

 

We are assuming that Mika is going to institute a formal fan club in the not-too-distant future and it will be up to his team to decide exactly how you attain membership that would allow you access to meet and greets, for example.

 

We don't have all the details yet but I'm sure it will be discussed on MFC as things develop.

Thank you!!

That would be great…

We have been at a sort of in-between officiality stage over the past year but in the future these kinds of meetings are likely to be formalized so it will benefit you to be a member of the fan club.

We were wondering... is just being registered in the forum all you need to belong to the MFC?

In fact ... page 98

Thanks!

I hadn’t read it before either.

And people did jump over the fence, they nearly knocked me to the ground when they did it.

I appreciate how hard it was to get us in as we very nearly didn't and Jemma had 2 broken ribs into the bargain.

Once again, sorry for that, but we didn’t jump over the fence and couldn’t be responsible for the injury, for we weren’t even near this girl.

Well, obviously, this is a problem we all have. The forum is so busy. we can't possibly read everything.

Not to say if you often have to use the dictionary to understand what people say…

Madrid was a massive success for us

Of course it was!

Congratulations for the achievement!

if you remember rightly there was a crush trying to get people in and it was actually very difficult to fully understand who was who to be honest.

 

Looking back we should of had name badges and organised it different I suppose , saying that sometimes you gotta launch and learn

 

You can imagine only being allowed 20 people and being faced with a sea of faces how tough this actually was ....

Of course we do remember.

We have nothing to say about the organisation and know you did a good job.

We only wanted to let all of you know that we didn’t act as animals, as hinted by some people in this thread.

We just don’t deserve certain words that have been used when referring to us.

Nothing more, and nothing less.

LeiRe... and I've read your post in the Madrid thread, and

think that you're right -- it was 5 months ago, and most people

have moved on, there's really no point to bringing up the past. We all

live and learn and then we go forward!

 

So glad you've finally decided to join the MFC -- hope you have fun

here, since that's really what it's all about!

 

dcdeb

You're right, dcdeb. Maybe it's a bit too late to talk about that night...

I just wanted to make sure these things won't happen again in the future.

Thank you all!!!

I totally agree with every single word Leire has said.

Thanks, PurpleCat!! I know we do...

I would not have known English is not your first language.

Thank you, Christine!! It took me a while to finish the message, had to think a lot how to express what I wanted to say...

And thanks also for your good advice!

Welcome to the MFC LeiRe, and welcome back PurpleCat

Thank you too, Wendi!!

Hi!

I'm a brand new member from Spain, though it's a looong time since I first heard of Mika by means of a TV commercial, aprox. May 2007 (I bought his CD few days after that, and have listened to it over and over again – still do, at least once a day on my way to work).

I've explained the reasons why I haven't registered in MFC until now here:

http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15999&page=104

I'm not sure if this is a good way to start. I must admit the main reason of my appearance has been answering to things that have been said here about a friend of mine and me, which I think are not fair, but I hope that we can all forget about this and get on well.

I adore the man to whom this forum is dedicated, as you all do and… don't know what to say. Tell me if you want to know anything, ok?

Hi everyone!

I’m one of the 4 people who entered the M&G in Madrid not being in the list. During the gig I was next to Robertina (I heard her introducing herself to that guy who gave Mika a chain), I’m sure she can remember. I thought she was nice asking me about Benicàssim and telling me the Big Girls were her friends. I’m also sure she knows pretty well there was no pushing at all for my part during the show.

Only one of the other girls is a friend of mine (who happens to be a registered MFCer and WAS at the time: PurpleCat), I hardly knew the third one and never before until that day had met the fourth.

So I speak on behalf of PurpleCat and my own self.

We really can’t believe some things we’ve read here. It seems that we were in different spheres at the same time. It’s true that people were pushing insanely, but we were also being pushed. If we did push anyone, it was certainly not on purpose. Sorry for the girl who got her rib hurt, hope it was nothing serious. We were startled as we heard her crying from behind and didn’t know what was wrong, since we didn’t understand what she was saying.

Two girls told us it was a private meeting. We didn’t answer badly, we just said ok and decided not to leave and see what happened, not being our intention to gatecrash at any moment. That guy, Freddie I think, started to count people. It seemed to me that, after having all MFC members in, there was still room for a few people more, so after some begging, he let me in. He did, so I didn’t enter without permission. Thank you!! Once in, some people pointed at us while telling security guards we shouldn’t be there. They didn’t ask us out, nor did John, who saw us clearly and answered to our hellos. I don’t know if he remembered us from the day before in Benicàssim, for we were 18 hours waiting for Mika, who, by the way, said “hasta mañana” ("see you tomorrow") as he was leaving.

We would really like to know what you’d have done being in our place…

We didn’t see people climbing over barriers. If there were, it was not us, certainly.

No one told us how to behave and no one scared us. We were just said not to ask for pics. We know perfectly well how to behave and need no instructions. It wasn’t the first time we met him.

We don’t hate anyone, since we don’t know you, and don’t really get why we ought to, and we have never ever had problems with other fans in the past. We’re not “troublemakers” at all, but peacemakers instead. Maybe you are mistaking us for somebody else? Honestly, we don’t know what this is all about. We haven’t insulted anyone, ever.

What else? We didn’t push our way to the front to get to him first, it just happened we were closer to the point from where he approached the group. And we didn’t follow him as he was leaving. The girl we hardly knew (she was accidentally there, for she had come to see Morrisey) asked him for kisses and he said “por supuesto” (“of course”). We were next to them and had them too, that’s all.

We didn’t intend to jump on anyone’s conversation. We just had our own moment, deserved or not, like everybody else.

I’m not completely sure about this, for I was far from them, but I think someone told Mika there were non MFC members there and his response was that was not a problem at all.

So… sorry if someone felt bad because of our attendance, even though we are convinced it didn’t affect the meeting at all. As someone already said, we think a mountain has been made of a molehill. Things have been hugely exaggerated, in our opinion.

Just to finish.

It’s a long time since I first started to visit your forum for news and stuff, and think it’s great. I see you’re all very proud of belonging to this MFC, and have lots of fun.

Why have I never registered so far? There are two major reasons: firstly, it’s not very easy for me to express myself fluently in English, so I think it’s hard for me to chat nicely with people, unfortunately; and secondly… let’s say I’m not keen on belonging to ANY club whatsoever, but if to avoid these annoying situations in the future I must take part in it, then no doubt you’re right at saying next time I’ll be registered (I am, indeed).

Anyway, if not welcome, I hope to be respected. I know we do respect you all, for that’s what we’ve always done. Believe us, it was not our intention to be rude (and we weren’t) nor to offend anyone. Keep on thinking Mika fans are Mika fans no matter they belong to the MFC or not, though…

Ciao!