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They're from here http://www.rockfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=1420863&spid=21847

ohh thanks only just found this thread again it's totally hilarious!!!

for me I have to say 2009 has been one of my absolute worst years (not THE worst year ever) but still it's been one hell of a b*tch for me!!!

started with me still trying to come to terms with the man I loved being gay & breaking my heart trying to get over my nervous breakdown that ensued after the heartbreak, worried sick about my auntie (who has cancer) just wondering how much longer til she dies

My grandad (my dad's dad) dies suddenly out of the blue may 25th & I ended up in a baffled state of mind because of that as I'd not seen him for about 11 years & before that I'd not seen him that many times either & he barely gave a d*mn about his own son (my dad) let alone me, so when he died it left me feeling weird 'cause I thought should I care he's died shouldn't I?

Am I a bad person for not crying should i feel guilty should I not? am i bad for only crying on the day of the funeral & not at all before or since?

then some nasty woman stabbed me in the back she was a deceitful b*tch to me, then my idol of 23 years whom I absolutely adore so much (Michael Jackson) dies June 25th & now i'm dazed & confused even more than ever before lost cold & lonely & have no one to turn to pretty much.

i cry almost every single day!!! i'm so devastated & stunned he's gone & gutted i never got to see him live yet my half sister who was a bit of a fan but has turned her back on him & is nasty about him saw him live on the dangerous tour!

My dad didn't buy me flip all for my birthday (not even a card) yet some stupid women he'd only "known" a few weeks (chatting to them online) when he met them (he met several of them) he spent hundreds of pounds on them & said one of them was like a daughter to him (i thought what am I then?? chopped liver???)

he's now crashed our car which we only had 3 & a half months & it's a write off which means I have to pay out a humongous fortune next year in train fares & for hotels when I go to the gigs/theatre shows i'm going to (which i could scarcely afford as it was i knew i could only just afford it when we had a car now I'm gonna have absolutely no money to myself for the next 4 months or so!)

and throughout the year I've been dealing with the agony of my disabilities (scoliosis/damaged spine & crushed ribs) and hypermobility & arthritis & i've been dealing with severe panic attacks anxiety & stress as well as insomnia

so all in all one hell of a sh*t year I will be so darned glad to see the fricken back of once & for all

I have absolutely HATED 2009 with an intense passion!!!!!!!

Aww that just broke my heart. Poor Michael.

I know me too

wow, thanks for posting! It's very sad to think that Michael's last days were spent like this though.

I know tell me about it

it's even sadder that he was murdered! he should still be here with us now *sighs*

Hey guys I thought I'd share this with you what I found on another MJ forum

Yesterday I had the amazing chance to speak to someone who worked on This Is It. This person has worked with Michael in the past, I've seen him before on TV close to Michael, and I also saw him in the movie and his name appears at the end. He is here in Miami on vacation with family and a good friend of mine knows him. I begged him to let me meet him and he was the sweetest person, and he loved Michael.

He gave me the ok to share with you what he told me, however with the condition that I would not provide his name. He is under contract with AEG/Sony and is only allowed to officially talk good about the movie and the concert. As he told me "hey, I also gotta pay my bills, so I have to do what they say."

However, at the same time he told me to "share with fans what I said, because it is important that some things are known."

He has great respect and admiration for Michael and has known him for over 20 years.

Here's the most important things he told me:

- Michael has always been a very sweet, humble person, since the first time they met 20 years ago, however he noticed that during these reharsals, he looked even more humble than usual, to the point that he actually felt Michael was incredibly insecure this time around, he saw him very vulnerable and everyone automatically tried to make him feel ok, everyone wanted to bring the spark in him that old Michael Jackson had. According to this person a combination of the 2005 trial and the long absence from the spotlight made Michael feel very insecure.

-Michael did not get along at all with Randy Phillips. Everyone knew it, even Phillips knew it. Phillips had a very arrogant way of dealing with Michael, he was terrified that Michael would not get ready for the shows and AEG would lose a lot of money.

According to this person, Phillips made it clear to several people that these concerts had to happen, no matter what, because he "had to personally convince everyone at AEG that this was a good deal" therefore his job was at risk if anything went wrong.

On many occasions Phillips would go to Michael's house with Ortega and Travis Payne whenever Michael would not show up. At times they would come back with him, at times no.

The official explanations to the crew was "Michael is not feeling well today," "Michael rehearsed at home" or "Michael is rehearsing with his vocal coach." At first the crew believed it, but after a few weeks everyone started realizing something was up because even though Ortega and Payne would say everything was fine, it was obvious that they were very frustrated and nervous, and there were several heated discussions between Ortega, Phillips and Payne, but what exactly was being discussed was not clear since they always made sure they would be far enough for anyone to hear.

During these conversations one of them would always be on a cellphone, and then they would pass it aroud to themselves. This person believes they were talking to Michael.

Michael, and this is shown in the movie, did not want to wear the ear monitors. As this person told me, "look at

any footage from Michael in concerts in the past, and you will never find him wearing ear monitors, he did not like them, did not need them." According to him, Ortega got upset at one time at Michael, and in front of everyone told him "you have to understand that here you do not have an option, you have to wear them, this is going to be a closed arena, not an open stadium, and the sound is different."

He said his tone was very nasty and everyone was shocked, especially since Michael looked very upset, but mostly hurt, by it. Interestingly, yesterday Karen Faye wrote on her facebook that Michael always complained to her that he did not like ear monitors, and asked her to tell Ortega. According to her, she did and Ortega told her "well, he has to wear them!"

-This is very interesting. According to this person, there was absolutely no way the concert was going to be ready for opening night on July 13th, and everyone knew it. He asked me the following "when you saw the movie, you do realize right that they had to show the best scenes, the best performances, right ?" I said "yes, of course" to which he replied "so do you realize that what you have seen, most of it came from June 24th, 23rd and 22nd ? Based on what you saw, did it feel as if everything was going to be ready in 2 weeks ?"

He said that Michael did not have his clothes ready, and that there was "pathetic" messing around from different stylists that were trying to come up with ideas. But nothing was ready, no clothes, not even for the dancers. Michael wanted Michael Bush, but Travis Payne brought in that Zaldy guy, and AEG was behind Zaldy, rather than Michael Bush.

The opening number for the concert was only done on the computer, just like we saw in the movie. It was never rehearsed, and the robot that Michael would have come out from was not even ready.

Also the closing of the show was just a concept. He also confirmed that they never had a full reharsal. In other words, they never practiced the whole concert, it would always be a few songs on several days, but it was never put all together, therefore they were also very concerned that once everything was gonna put together, it would take much longer that the 2 hours orignally planned.

This was going to be a huge problem for AEG and the O2 arena, because of an agreement they had with time. Also, Michael did not want to have long shows, for obvious reasons. Also, they never reharsed with implementing the videos for Smooth criminal, Thriller and Earth song as we saw in the movie, those were edited in the movie, but they never rehearsed using them, and it was still unclear how they would be used with the songs, especially Smooth Criminal.

-For the most part, Michael looked well, however this person did unfortunately confirm to me that there were days that something was "wrong" and everybody knew it. He worked with Michael in the past and Michael never wore sunglasses while reharsing the dark like that, especially since Michael in the past would always want to see how the lights looked and for that reason did not like using shades. But he said "don't expect them to talk about it on tv of course, same with me, I won't and I can't."

He said that at first everybody thought Michael was just eccentric and stuff, especially the dancers, they were just excited to see him, but he said for those who knew him for many years, including him, started realizing alarming signs. However, he said, this just shows how vulnerable Michael was and he does not like how people associate this behavior with something negative.

He said "he went through so much poor thing, I perfectly understand why this was happening." Oh and btw, he said that some of the crew members started checking TMZ with their IPHONES to find out whether or not Michael had seen Dr. Klein during the day. It would usually warn them on what to expect when he showed up.

Michael had fun when performing, it appeared as if it was what he needed, however off stage Michael did not look happy, he rarely interacted with the crew, other than Karen Faye and at times with Michael Bush. According to this person, Michael stayed as far as he could from Ortega, Payne and Phillips off stage, because he always felt he was being chased by them to do more, perform more and give more. He said that the crew in general felt Ortega was being too demanding, especially when it was obvious nothing was ready on time.

But they mostly felt Ortega was being pressured by Phillips, and that it was Phillips who was just going crazy because was in a position of losing everything with these shows.

The day after the news came out that some fans claimed Michael told them he did not want to do 50 concerts, everyone was instructed not to talk to anybody from the media, not to let in anyone who was not authorized to attend rehearsals, especially fans. When Michael came in that day, the atmosphere was tense and he did not look happy at all. Before working that day, Phillips and Ortega met with Michael and, interestingly, with his bodyguards.

They spoke for about 20 minutes, but once again this person could not hear what was being said. However everyone had the feeling Michael indeed did not want to do 50 shows and believed Michael did talk to those fans.

This is pretty much it. This guy said that it is a shame that Michael died while being extremely stressed out. He said that a lot of pressure was put on Michael, but the truth is that the concerts were not going to be ready not because of him, but because the there was simply not enough time to accomplish all they had planned.

He said he is sure Michael would have been 100% ready by July 13th, because "he did those songs hundreds of times before during his career, he knew exactly what to do" but everything else around was not ready. He also says he personally felt Michael sometimes did not show up because he knew things were moving slowly and sort of felt disappointed.

He was a perfectionist, and when things were obviously not going in the right direction, he would get frustrated and sort of lose interest, instead of becoming upset at someone. Yet they made him believe it was him, that things were moving slowly because of him. But this person told me that Michael had nothing to do with all the technical stuff, like lightings, fireworks etc, therefore it was not his fault, but he was the easy target.

According to him, if the concerts were not going to be ready, it would have been easier for AEG to blame it on Michael, than blame themsleves and their lack of timing skills.

Once again, do not ask me for his name, I will never tell, not even via PM. He was brutally honest with me and I will honor his request.

A lot of things make sense now, especially the concerts not being ready based on what we saw in the movie. No way in two weeks they were going to be ready. Also, he said, don't forget that a lot of days would have been lost during the move to London and setting up the stage there and get adjusted to the arena.

This is very sad, especially to think that Michael was somehow made feel responsible for this

True True

I understand what Chantelle is saying and I hate that Sony used him and pushed him so hard, But Michael worked so hard for the concerts, we should at least appreciate what he left behind.

 

Hey that morph thing is pretty cool.

Hey! I just got a facebook a few weeks ago. If I can't add you soon, just search Hamaila. I'll probably be the only one- lol. I can't get on right now or I'd totally add you.

 

No I don't have a region 2 dvd player unfortunately. At least I dont think it is. I'll look it over. I'm just going to wait a while. I heard on Wiki if you order it before the 21st you get a special 13min clip or something.

 

Does anyone know the story behind Evan Chandlers suicide? I'm kinda curious now

yes I do appreciate what he left behind but the film has too much of a "bitter taste" for me maybe one day in the future I may rent it but I shall never buy it myself

got you on fb now glad to have you on my friendslist:thumb_yello:

ohh well if it is able to play region 2 or you can find a way of unlocking it (search wiki for info how to do that) then let me know o.k

evan Chandlers suicide wow there's a complex subject indeed he apparently committed suicide by shooting himself he was found dead with a gun in his hand but some on the Mjjc think it may well actually be murder & possibly in some way linked in with Michael's murder strangely enough! :blink:

pop over to the Mjjc & into the investigative unit & you'll see what's been said so far (or if you'd prefer not to but wanna know all about it all pm me & I shall do a copy & paste of all relevant details for you )

It seems from what I read whilst over in the investigative unit early hours of this morning Michael's death isn't manslaughter it's considered to possibly be 1st degree murder!!! no real shock to me I guess but still heartbreaking & hard to take in & accept!

believe me what is reported on the news & in the press & magazines isn't covering flip all regards the complexities of the whole case & whats' really/has really gone on!

believe me it'd melt your brain!

hey guys I found via a fellow mfcer on facebook a site called morphthing.com where you can morph pics of yourself & your fave celeb together & I've done 5 of Michael & me

what do you think?

Hmm. I think they have the means to go it, as well as the brains. Tarsiers have been known to kill themselves if they're in enclosures at zoos.

 

I think a very large percentage of that money goes to Michael's estate. The debt has disappeared, and now the kids have enough to live very luxurious lives, if they so desire. Sure, Sony and AEG are trying to make a quick buck, but that's the world of business. I respect them for it.

well I don't they were the one's who pushed Michael to do 50 gigs when he wasn't even fit & well enough to do 10 they pushed him & pushed him & they were the one's encouraging various dr's to drug him up so that he could perform

so I hate them for what they did to Michael

I just got mine in the mail!! Thanks, Chantelle!

Sorry for the quality, all I have is my cell phone

 

 

I love them! Thanks again!!

cool stuff thanks for posting pics

don't worry about the quality i have an expensive camera top of the range & the quality is far worse than that i'll tell you!!! you're phone is obviously quite good (in comparison with my camera anyhow) a camera should be better than a camera phone but mine isn't lol

Why not? I think monkeys/animals have feelings.

 

Home come you haven't seen the film/don't plan on getting the dvd. I'm not bashing you or anything, just curious.

oh yes indeed animals sure do have feelings all living creatures do but I don't honestly think they can commit suicide i've never heard of it before

they can grieve & pine but I don't think they commit suicide!

well don't know if you're aware but apparently song & aeg are partially responsible for his death & thus I don't wanna see the film 'cause they're the one's profiting from it! same goes with the exhibition i had 2 tickets to go but didn't because of hearing that!

I respect Michael more than that!

So my brother was browsing Wikipedia today and apparently, Bubbles tried to commit suicide. It was supported by an outside article, but there was no mention of exactly how he tried it. Maybe it was just an accident? Has anyone heard of this incident?

hmm I doubt that very much to be honest it sounds totally absurd! I don't think Monkeys can commit suicide:blink:

I saw that yesterday! I was so excited! But since I've been gone I thought that everyone had announced it and everything already. I've already begun formulating plans for a sleep over with some friends.

 

Hey Amazon UK is offering a 2 disc special edition while us over here in the US don't get it- Isn't that weird?? Chantelle you have to tell us how it is!!

I won't be getting it, I haven't seen the film at the cinema & have no intention of getting the dvd for myself either

wow you don't get the 2 dvd set where you are how weird (and unfair) well could you play a region 2 dvd? do you have a region free dvd player or a compuer that'll play any region dvd? If so I could get one on your behalf if you like

If so let me know (I don't mind helping others out I'm always doing it lol) it feels good to help others I say :wink2:

Oooooh he's in a relationship?

shocked??? i'm shocked you didn't know!!

whoever it is is one hell of a jammy devil i'll say!!! if I find out by feb (when I see Mika) that he's no longer dating anyone I'm prepared to pounce lol I wouldn't mind being Mika's girl ohhhh:wub2:

thanks for posting! nice article...i adimire his mother a lot, she could deal with a rioting adolescent in the best way, the results are pretty acceptable

yes indeed he's turned out quite nicely hasn't he:wub2:

Unless I'm correcting them for him LOL!

 

Bombfire indeed.

lmfao ohh yes I remember the bomfire thing it made me howl with laughter by far one of the best tweets/typos of the year so far I'd give him an award & all that if I had one spare lol

ahahah, a hundred bracelets is a bit excessive even for the craziest mika fan!

 

aww yeah the fan is really cute but ah well, if you already have it then that would be silly XD

 

I'll go visit H&M tomorrow and get some kitty stuff for you. ^-^;

okie dokie that's fine

yeah a hundred would be excessive lol:roftl:

.. the fuschia page won't open, says its been discontinued

i know same here:blink:

oo-er. yeah, fuschia's online shop - the accessories section - was in my bookmarks and now that I click it, it says Page Not Found.

 

http://fuchsiaonline.com/accessories.html

 

That's the original link, and it definitely worked before. D:

 

ah well. XD my parents never let me buy stuff online anyways :T I wish I were 18 D:

it certainly did for me too anyhow they're not quite the exact same (they have a red heart Mika's like mine is purple ish)

btw anyone else who wants these bracelets feel free as i've said to pm me but you may well have to wait now til after xmas as I have 16 to post out so far & that costs a lot @ £2.50 each plus postage I still will get them for you you'll just have to wait a while o.k

but if you do want one pm me & i'll put your name on a list on my wardrobe door so i know who else wants them o.k:thumb_yello:

those who have asked so far will get theirs shipped before xmas but as i say anyone else after that will have to wait a while but will still get one o.k:thumb_yello:

Hey lovely people I got an email off these ..they will do internatinal shipping for us for $5 until 11th December:thumb_yello: and theres a "few left

they closed down ages ago didn't they completely??? well the website doesn't work for me anyhow:boxed:

also they do charge $12 each which with the $5 shipping is $17 compared to £2.50 that's quite a lot

oh woot thanks! I'll just post it here Hmmm I'd really like three (because I'm really forgetful and always misplacing things ) but then the shipping cost would be ridiculous.

 

I have LOADS of hello kitty stuff haha because this is hong kong after all and I could send that to you?

 

I have a hello kitty hairbrush (unused ), a green/pink plasticish hk washbag from H&M, a hello kitty candy stick that has an attached motor fan (it's her in an airplane, and the propellers of the plane are the fan -- I bought it in a Thai airport ) and erm yeah I could always go to H&M and get more stuff

well anything Hello kitty would be cool as long as it won't cost you too much to post to me (I live in the u.k) I do have the mini kitty fan though (it's so kawaii) anything else kitty would be great though

It won't cost me that much to post 3 bracelets to you don't worry about that it's really not as expensive as you'd think:thumb_yello:

to give you an idea of what i've paid to ship to other countries recently

it cost £1.61 to post 2 to belgium last week, £1.75 to post 4 to america (also last week) it cost £1.50 to post 2 to ireland (a few weeks back) so not expensive at all based on those costs, believe me posting to where you live shouldn't cost much more as long as you don't want a hundred of them lol:naughty:

Two would be good Shipping would be crazy though :/

no it wouldn't as i mentioned above shipping of such small light items is cheap! i'm not a rip off internet store who adds humongous prices to everything lol I only use a bubble wrap envelope to send them & that's it, I get the bubble wrap lined envelopes in packs (makes them cheaper for me) and then i go to the post office & send however many bracelets has been requested

i've shipped a huge gigantic box of stuff to japan & that only cost me about £12 and that weighed a huge ton lol:naughty: 2 little bracelets to where you live ain't gonna cost the earth far from it:thumb_yello:

i am sorry i love m.j:blush-anim-cl:

but i love mika more

and i know that m.j is amazing !

and a legend ,and he is going to like that forever

and i am sorry for being disrespectful

and i say that to all m.j fan's:tears:

please dont be mad from me

we all love Mika here too & I do feel if he carries on improving at the rate he is doing he may well go on to become as near as anyone is ever likely to get to coming close to Michael (if you understand my gibberish english there) but no one will ever quite be THE king of pop besides of course the late great man himself MJ!

actually thinking about it in depth (that hurts for my brain lol:roftl:)

I think really king of pop was too small a title for MJ I think he should be named THE ultimate king of pop or king of music then maybe in some years to come maybe Mika will simply be the king of pop solely whereas MJ will be the king of all music THE ultimate king!!! Just my feelings on the subjects no offence taken or meant either

ahw don't worry, we're not mad

But I just think it is too soon to talk about a new king..

And I agree with Kelzy, Mika will have to work damn hard to be the new king of pop

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/143029/Michael-Jackson-s-debt-is-paid-off

 

"Now, in an ironic twist, financial experts predict Jackson’s estate could be as much as a billion dollars in profit by the end of next year, with plans to launch as many as six new CDs."

as I said to my parents when he died all the people around him will be going kaching kaching kaching & seeing pound/dollar (whatever currency) signs in front of their eyes!!!

I was of course right!!! Not good is it if you think about it

they didn't give a sh*t when he was alive

now they do (of course 'cause they can cash in on him!!!) sick the lot of them!

Heck yes! that sounds awesome! I read somewhere that he had loads of material that he never released, in case something happend to him, so his kids would have some sort of insurance. I just didn't think it'd be this soon.

 

And Chantelle thanks for the news about Jordy's dad.. didn't like him... I hate him for everything he did to MiKe ... so I'm glad he's gone.

and Bitter.Icarus thank you soo much for the pics!

yes I'm glad he's gone too! (Evan not MJ) of course!!

ohh talking of MJ must go onto the mjjc since my computer (the old one) died on me i've not been on there it was the last site i went on before it died on me

won't do that tonight though i'm logging off now been online for hours & hours as it is

i miss that place !!!

ohh & did anyone know Janet & randy are on twitter (verified accounts as well) will when i get back online tomorrow give you the links o.k

ttfn peeps keep on moonwalking <3

I think it took about 2,5 weeks.. I'm not sure, but it didn't take as long as they said it would, so that was good!

oh cool can't wait to get mine

haha okay. I'll look around and get back to you

cool if you can't find anything hk or Mj just let me know what you can get just give me ideas

I don't go into town (where I get the bracelets from) until next wednesday anyhow o.k

by the way do you want one or more than one?

Sure! What would you like lol.

ohh well if you can get something hello kitty related such as maybe a keychain, badge or something that'd be cool or if you can get something Michael Jackson that'd be cool

either that or just something nice & colourful from your country I don't mind

 

I found a swatch watch awhile ago that was like all Circus-y with clowns..and I thought it reminded me of mika because of the clowns..but now its not there anymore

ohh I have that one I bought it last year that's why you won't find them now they're last years, you will still find them on squiggly.com though! they have all the old swatch watches including the bird twister & cube explosion which Mika has

I think the circus y one is called circus party? I can't quite be certain I know I have it but it doesn't exactly have the name emblazoned on it & I bought it a year ago I've had a lot on my mind since then (and I have a memory like a sieve as well lol)

I have updated the front page.

My -fake- D&G watch arrived today!

It looks really great

I wasn't expecting it till december, so that was pretty cool.

ohh cool how long did it take to arrive?

I'm gonna have to wait til after xmas to order mine now as I have a lot to pay out :aah: never mind I've waited about a year another few weeks won't hurt i guess eh

avoca I have the pic (i posted it)

so here it is :

 

ohh I love that brooch & those trousers my my they're amazing:wub2:

woahhh what? I'm glad this thread was brought back to life, I didn't realize the Don't Go Breaking My Hearts bracelet was being discontinued I was planning to get one for Christmas D:

 

is anybody selling spare ones by any chance? XD

yup just send me a pm telling me how many you want:thumb_yello:

awesomee! How much is it?

they are £2.50 each or if you prefer you can just send me a little something from where you live as payment:thumb_yello: you don't have to send the money for it I don't mind either way:biggrin2:

 

40s theme .. gotta be done

 

Itssss darklight with the meat knifeeeeee:shocked:

OOHH YOU BLAMIN ME??? quit blamin it on the girls will ya freddie blame it on the boys for a change lol:naughty:

so are we deffo going for a 40's sorta theam then? I'm deffo up for it!

They are out of stock :tears:

 

Any idea of how to let others know I'm a MFCer ??

use face paint to write I am a mfcer lol:naughty: you may get a few funny stares esp from dirty minded adults who think it means something it doesn't (think about it and you'll get it lol)

Did you see that he was wearing the bracelet again this week?

 

And is it double sad that I've already bought my flashing hearts for February?

oh yeah seen him wearing it recently yeah, is it just me or has he not (until this past week or so) worn it for ages & ages, I personally 'til recently hadn't seen him wearing it for months & months (in fact I think the last time I personally saw him wearing it was last year )

maybe just me being unobservant???

anyhow thought I'd just say on the subject of the Mika hearts bracelets If anyone wants them I can get them so just pm me how ever many you want, I will ship to absolutely any country no problem:thumb_yello:

I have sent out loads to mfcers before & I'm shipping out more this next coming week

If you look in the Mika chat section there's a thread about the Mika hearts bracelets & I posted about it there:biggrin2:

I already have my flashing heart necklace somewhere bienie sent me one months & months ago (I sent her some chupa chups lollipop charms & suchlike so as payment she sent me one of those a chicken mask (oh yeah lol:naughty:) and 4 bracelets she'd made)

never wore it to the sadlers wells gig I forgot about it lol *doh*

heyy chantelle! thanks for sharing with us! as bad as this sounds,i'm glad he's gone too.i mean,after all the trouble he caused.and about him chasing his son with a dumbbell? like wtf??

 

ohh by the way,i spent almost 80% of my allowance on this book called 'Life Of A Legend'.i didn't really consider what was written inside,instead i just loved the pictures.i couldn't find 'Moonwalk' though

hmm never heard of that one before so i've no idea if it's any good what country is it you live in I forget? If you like (if you're able to order online that is) I can try & find somewhere that has moonwalk cheaply I know of a fair few places:biggrin2: