Pam Travers

Pam, welcome back

 

Btw this discussion was closed and everyone has moved on by now. I suggest you do the same?

I read it today... am i not allowed to comment something that was still discussed 2 days ago?? especially when there is a big mistake in what has been said?

its no closed at all , its brand new and open unless you declare it officially closed or unless you dont want me to comment it.

EDIT: okay you edit your post to provoke me by referring to personal stuff (which btw you dont even get yourself thats the funny part)that not a lot of people can understand, again it only proves how mean and ignorant you are, go and check your faults

I am terribly sorry but you're wrong. Introduire means to introduce and doesnt have the nuance that you say. I've checked the TLF and the Larousse and another dictionary and they all say the same. But maybe they're wrong too? Introduire is just more formal than "présenter", and a bit "désuet", but it's 100% correct.

 

I have no idea what you're talking about when you mention unidiomatic use of phrases in this context.

 

BTW I can also assure you that most words that english and french have in common have the same semantic origin (especially when you remember the british upper classes spoke French for a long time), but languages do evolve rapidly so of course some meanings now differ. Same thing is true for the french language: the same word used by Moliere or by a 21st century author doesn't necessarily mean the same thing. But of course that's another debate.

I am terribly not sorry but YOU ARE...lets face it : WRONG

(if thats the way you chose to see things in terms or being right or being wrong)

First of all, the all part with the evolution of words is exactly what identicaltwin said, maybe you should read what people have to say first before you write long out of debate paragraphs saying things that everybody knows about in order to prove someone wrong, thats absolutely NOT what she was talking about or again what she said, she even agrees with you on that.

I just went to the french thread to look for someone i used to know and thats how i finished here to read this thread and i think its absolutely unfair to mention people (in this case sariflor and identicaltwin) in threads they are not supposed to go into, where the used language is not the one they are supposed to understand...but im not here for that... thats your all business and just a statement.

so..."introduire" is a very specific case, its a partial false friend and if you want to use it as présenter then you need to add "auprès de" (and it seems you personally didnt know it before you checked it ...which means that it is not used a lot by the masses) or it doesnt have the same meaning, so mika use it the WRONG WAY like when he uses chambre for pièce , thats all, nothing more... now if you ask me if it means he doesnt speak a proper french , well, i personally thing he says it by coquetterie, which is the case of NUMEROUS bilingual people, god knows it...though these days its not so cute or trendy anymore, but mika as we know it is alway a little bit late about that (cf. the mentos blog)

there is a good and clear example on a forum discussion about this false friend, not for you nicki27, but for anyone who would like to learn the difference:

you CAN say "introduire un conférencier" (that works in this case) but you can also say "présenter un conférencier"

"Madame, permettez-moi de vous introduire M. Jones" litterally means "Madam, let me introduce Mr Jones into you". Sounds a bit obscene ;-)

At an embassy party, you'd rather say "Madame, permettez-moi de vous présenter M. Jones"

voilà...

now i recommend - for anyone interested in language: "Element pour une macro-syntaxe" by alain berrendonner in a scarano (éd.)

and all i know is that mika is bilingual, why we make mistakes though we are bilingual is a part of the discursive memory and enonciation (pluri operator , pluri codic)

now for the french version of GK i personnally think that the lyrics are VERY good for several reasons (except the end), thing is that the translation from the gk french lyrics into english sounds lame but thats why its the french lyrics and not the english ones. i was really amazed that someone succeed in writing it so cleverly and beautifully.

it always makes me smile a little when people who insist on orthography, grammar and tenses make HUGE faults themselves, when they write in their own language,lol, othography (especially the french one ) will always be for me something ridiculous based on non less ridiculous rules made by and for some ridiculous (not so) clever donkeys...

i think the free badges should be for me

i think he gave you people another sign...

-from the banksy exhib in ny-

Are you going all performative now, Kata?

you definitely dont understand this word

You know Pam, I have tried with you, but when you come out with stuff like this, it's just impossible.

What on earth have I been rude to you about?

I've always humoured you and, if anything, been more accepting with things coming from you than from others, because you "are like this". But when you make statements like these, it just shows how pointless it all was.

Whatever.

 

I have no intention on starting a slagging off match now, because it's just getting stupid. I have pmed you. From now on, maybe you can have the decency to stop having digs at me and if you have something to say, you can reply to my pm.

i just hope you understand the words you use and how a sentence like this is reductive

i dont have the intention to start a slagging match either since i never start one at all...

 

ppl are so ignorant!

i hope you have the decency to include yourself in that statement

@dcdeb, i cant believe that...if the behaviour of kata, violet_sky, sariflor etc

cant be called rude...i dont know, some lucidity/honesty is just missing

Sarcasm my love

okay i get it, and my love is hyper sarcastic, but please dont call me that though.

so who "came out of the blue" now:wink2:

i didnt come out of the blue to insult anyone, thats the big difference i guess...oh and btw when someone like violet_sky says FY pam thats all right when i say the very same its an insult notification...

hey guys, you WON, you know...you dont need to put someone i know in the same basket as I...really, i know inquisition is not over as long as people like you will exist but thats going too far...

and ingie, if fun means fight to you thats sad, but you are at the right place i guess..

Maybe you can go onto your other forum full of poison then , Ill PM you the link

by writing that you are implying in front of everyone who reads this ----- (unpoisoned?) forum that greta is a non loving mika person which spreads her bitter spit on another forum when it is absolutely wrong, and its not her forum, just a place where she posted a very few posts because she didnt feel understood here about some things...but you already know that...

the fact that you mention it the way you do is just showing how small , how dishonest and how unsolar you are

you like licking and want openly say how much you hate what you hate ...okay, but then please dont be diffamatory by mixing two words in your own language : poison and truth and the word that stands in between: irony

you hate me, okay but please Greta has nothing to do with this all, she is the most loving, funny and interesting person here and you would all be dumb to forget it all of a sudden just because she is somehow linked to me.

again you seem to ordinate all in line to spit your venom onto ONE SINGLE PERSON when you are thousands...thats pure uglyness of soul...

i wish you wont make me log in again, because if we have all something in common is that i agree with you that i dont belong here...

thanks in advance for you understanding

oh and sariflor

Greta 66789000 - Freddidouble forever 0

he will objectively never come close to her and next time you want to say what you think the truth is about someone you dont know, just think that someone might do the same to you.

I agree.

I really can’t see why it should be a problem with someone visiting anyone’s profile; it’s quite natural, see Wendi’s posts earlier.

Usually I don’t jump in and say what I think about a conflict but in this case there’s no way I can keep quiet.

 

Pam….why is it such a big deal for you when someone is visiting your profile, I would really like to know!

it is not, im sorry but i dont feel like rewriting everything i already said. i just dont understand people who openly say they dislike me, then go on my profile like violet_sky, whats the sense of it, you know? but thats not a problem since there is nothing on it and we have found a solution now to people who wanted to spam it...so thats all ok now, i was just trying to understand since i dont check people i dislike...thats all folks

PS kata, you dont seem to ignore me....i dont like you either, falsly bored and rebel

 

And as a side note -- could I ask that you all try to restrain yourselves from

getting too carried with the tags? I mean, I know the Aussies are going nuts

in their thread but I mean, just in all the other threads in general?

 

dcdeb

i think there is gonna be a big issue with the tags

I've been banned for showing a pattern of provokative and/or negative behaviour before, can't see what's wrong with VS suggesting the same should apply to Pam...at least this time it would be true

thats what i call provocation

maybe you didnt steal your ban then, and should get one again- since you think its cool to mention who should get one-

lets remember that my last ban was a pornographic one, not a ban because i insulted or provocated anyone... i dont get provocative people at all, whatever.

OK, it may have been too early for you to move on before, but it's time now.

 

There was rudeness on both sides and I think you'll both have to "deal

with it."

 

Look, no one says you (all) have to be lovey dovey on the MFC with

everyone, but you (all) can at least be civil, and I'm seeing lots of

un-civil behavior here. Pam, if you felt Violet was rude, there was

absolutely no reason for you to reply the same way -- you can try to

take the high road, which would have meant, in this case, not responding at all. And Violet, if Pam was annoying you, you too could have just

ignored her. There is simply no reason to carry on like this in this thread,

which is supposed to be about helping others who have issues/questions

with the new forum features.

i had issues and questions and then out of the blue she came, became all agressive as usual etc. SO we all agree she started it and we all agree im allowed to be myself and respond .

im done now.

back to the new stuff...

I agree that she was blunt, but not rude. Problem is, Pam, that if you actually rant about people visiting your profile, trust me, it will only encourage even more people to doso. That's why I'm telling you to move on, but it's a free world... for V_S too. Anyway if you two have a private issue to sort out, I suggest you do it via PMs. Thanks a lot.

yes she was...but its seems that its ok when its directed to me. she ****s me but the mods tolerate it...i dont have a problem with v_s -or anyone else -, but she does have one with me and somehow or entirely, its not my problem, its hers.

Seriously, Pam, I don't think Violet was rude first. She said she disliked you, you keep saying the same thing to me all the time, do I get pissed off? Nah. Move on

And FYI, I will visit your profile as foften as I please. Deal with it.

she wasnt rude first? LOL

and move on??? she just posted and i just responded, it was a bit early to move on--

but go ahead jump on any occasion you can

And this is the second time within one week, that one and the same person is making me want to which honestly doesn't happen often.

Unlike Romis, I'm not so sure anymore if Pam is a troll or not. A ban would be nice. Goodnight.

 

And FYI, I will visit your profile as foften as I please. Deal with it.

thats very reciprocal but im nice enough to shut up

you will visit it as often as you please but

a what for since you dislike me?

b the comments have been desactivated

thats funny how people who think i should get banned are the most insulting ones...just a fact.

oh and **** you BACK, if you dont mind.

 

 

lol .. whats a name dropper ? oh is that people who have been on your profile ?

someone who drops names

and yes, those are people who visited it

Holly D

lets remember the list of the day

daydreambeliever, freddiedouble, piperitta patty violet_sky holly d and queenie

P.-S. posts on my page have been desactivated, i think for anyone who dont want to use this place a social network, its a good idea, just ask the mod of your choice

I want to partecipate in a discussion board, don't need another social network {I hate}

is there no way to return back to the old features?

Cos nobody here really asked for them, and they're so stalkers friendly it's very upsetting

oh, now I recall some Lord's blabbing about MFC improvement

it's unuseful to collect info about me, I'll never buy anything labelled Universal

id.

im already on FB and myspace etc.

its also VERY unuseful to collect info about me because

a- i wont give any

b- i ll never buy anything labelled universal either

if your name is constantly on someones profile each day

LMAO

im a name dropper

one more visit:

Holly D

lets remember the list of the day

daydreambeliever, freddiedouble, piperitta patty violet_sky and queenie

Ok - understood!

You can delete that comment though I think!

yeah, ive just been told i could...but thats all ok now, i reported it and someone took care of it, it wont happen anymore...thank you anyway..

Pam - maybe you could post on your own wall saying please

do not leave comments here - then folk, especially new ones

would see that and respect your privacy. Just a thought

but its not about people posting on my wall its about people posting on my wall to be offensive, thats very different...

Ohhhhhh

 

All these features are new sunshine .. Im not sure if we can turn some off and on ...one may like while others might not you know?

 

Maybe Romis posted as she wanted to be your friend and comment?

 

So you have issues with posting on your profile? thats what we are saying?

no i dont have issues with posting on my profile, i have issues with people like romis posting offensive notes on my profile, shall i speak french or something?

ps forget about it

Im lost .....

im just asking you if there is a way i can stop people from posting on my page

someone called romis just posted that

ha! guess who's here?

MFC is a social place. If you don't want to be social, go to your bedroom and close the windows

just deal with it, Pam

you see i just dont feel like dealing in private with people...

Whats the big issue with going into your profile???

 

You have to go in to add friends for one

 

 

Lets take me for instance , maybe I was curious how old you were or who your friends were or whatever!!

 

This happens all the time .. now the name is just there who visited

im talking to the mod here, not to the people i dont get along with, i received that

ha! guess who's here?

MFC is a social place. If you don't want to be social, go to your bedroom and close the windows

just deal with it, Pam

from romis

and i find it offensive, is there a way to avoid that on my page, thanx