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Yes but that's sort of inevitable at this point. He's not going to embark on a world tour suddenly when there is no album and unless he started working on album 4 a couple of months after album 3 was released it wasn't going to happen anyway. Side projects or not, this was destined to be a drought year and the only thing you can really count on in that case is some summer festivals in Europe (yes, mostly in francophone countries).

That is.

Well at least Team Mika gets that Mika needs to be in a studio to make music.

Then they should get ready to be said they should´t be telling Mika what to do

Oh huray. French songs. Exactly what we've been waiting for....

I´ll cheer once they announce an Italian album to go along with the french one.

Thanks Camille. And yes you're right. I think Mika is not a liar exactly, just engages in some wishful thinking along with many of his fans.

Just

I'm sure professional song-writers can produce decent songs whenever they stop and just concentrate on doing so, but I also totally understand Mika when he says that his best songs just "come" (like vomiting ) and totally know the feeling (even I don't do any creative work like him) when new ideas suddenly pop up, usually after seeing and experiencing new things. So I do hope that everything he does gives him material for something else.

 

But of course the truth is that to make a new album he needs to also spend proper periods in studio to work with the songs and I wonder when he is going to do it Spending January-February in studio sounded good but I'm not sure it's going to happen (at all). Maybe February-March if the Voice live shows start only in the beginning of April? June-July?

 

Personally I would be happy to see him doing summer festivals and maybe even small concert tours in Italy/France in June-July, introducing one or two new songs and concentrating on the album during autumn (meaning the album would be out spring 2015?).

You are an optimistic

MFC is more alive than ever! I love these convos

 

I cannot say what's better for him to create new music and I'll be waiting patiently until he's got something new to give us.

In the meantime I cannot but have positive or negative thoughts concerning the choices he makes, and as you all, I like to exchange opinions with other fans.

I think that, for the very first time, maybe in a bit awkward and extreme way, this blogger has unveiled some flaws in the choices he's made in the last, let's say, two years. And it's something I can aknowledge very well.

 

Everything will be for the good? I hope so, I DO hope so. That we're going to have a new original and successful album, an acoustic tour and then a real tour pushed and sponsored by the amazing success he's had in Italy and France, and by the money he's earned in the meantime.

 

We'll be here to comment, that's for sure

Sounds too good to be true

it's not Rosa, and you know it well

 

It will mean new ads and nothing else I guess, 3 hasn't got any TV channel or stuff. BUT it comes to my mind, that they could be the sponsor for a tour/gigs?

Why not, as Vodafone is.

 

Maybe he's just selling himself to the ones who have money enough to help him put on a show.

Oh well, thanks Robi, I thought it meant something like more X Factor shows and stuff. As that italian article says, you will get bored of his face, but whatever

Unfortunately it seems to be neither of them. Apparently we will see him on ads more often than we expected

Oh I´m sure there are people actually excited.

http://www.telecompaper.com/news/pop-star-mika-stars-in-3-italia-and-sky-fastweb-campaigns--991300

 

Pop star Mika stars in 3 Italia and Sky-Fastweb campaigns

 

Tuesday 21 January 2014 | 11:13 CET | News

 

However, 3 Italia has engaged the services of Mika for 12 months while the Sky-Fastweb campaign is due to end this month.

Tell me this is either a joke or a bad translation, thanks.

Thank you so much

 

 

 

I think it's not our prerogative to "want him to" do something. I just don't think he could make some amazing music out of fans/label/money/whatever pressure.

I do enjoy writing, some friends of mine always tell me to write a book (in italian I'm a bit better than here, I swear ) but I don't do it, 'cause I just write some decent words out of emotions, I can't sit at my laptop and just write for the hell of it.

I think so does he. No inspiration, no music, that's it. And there will be no complains of ours which could change this, cause it's not up to his mind, it's up to his heart.

 

So, meanwhile he's looking for inspiration, in my opinion he better works something useful out, like side projects, tv shows, whatever he feels or needs or has to do. The article author is right, it is smart of him releasing a song book while judging on XF, so why should he just hang out in London, during these no music months?

 

Writing songs, writing books, painting, whatever, doesn't get stopped by daily choices and errands, if it's out of passion and emotions. When the emotions come, there you go with your inspired work and you let go whatever else. Yesterday (was it yesterday?) I let go everything just to write my report. For 4 hours I wrote non stop, my house was a mess, the pets wanted my attention, my husband did the chores and cooked (he knows I would have skip the dinner ) to let me write. Just because I needed to do it. It's a drive you can't fight.

I'm sure he will write his music when he will feel this drive, not before.

And I'm positive emotions don't come out of the blue, but origin in meeting people, experiencing adventures, facing challenges, as he's doing right now. So I trust that what he is going through, this is not totally useles.

I just wait for him being inspired to do good music. If I want to listen to average songs, well, there are plenty around.

I can´t quote everybody but I think your post will make it

I can´t agree here, see, a wise man once said: "Creativity is 1% inspiration and 99% of constant perseverance" (maybe you say determination, I just translated something that was in Spanish).

I don´t think he can´t get any inspiration while working in any side project which has him busy 24/7, out of his house, his family and stuff. Don´t forget he needed to be alone or in LA to be able to write... For people like Mika I think inspiration is something they have every day, and if he is building a house, he´ll use his creativity in that house. That´s what makes him good at any fecking thing he does (well, more or less, his acting skills are... erm... ). So while he is judging others, he is losing this daily creativity in something else which is not what he is the best at. He could be a good drawer, maybe. Or a good designer, who knows. But he IS amazing when it´s about music. About creating music.

Anyway, I totally subscribe to what the article says.

If as much energy and time was spent on promo for his own music, I think his albums would be million sellers all over.

Rose, thank you, this explains exactly why some of us are really upset since the beginning of these side projects.

You want it to be released as well

Released.

Backstage about to film The Voice France...

 

Yeah that´s exactly what I mean xDDD

Good timing Mika

I don´t think that saying that this or that TV format is sh*t is an insult to any of the contestants or judges. I don´t know whether in your countries, the different "levels" of shows are in different channels. And I´m not sure whether in Italy it works the same way it works in Spain, but here in my country, the most sh*tty shows are in "Tele5" (which moreover I think it´s the same name as in Italy). That X Factor show belongs to that channel. It´s a matter of taste. But e.g. Tele5 would never show ANY documentary. Because that channel is addressed to a kind of people who NEVER IN THEIR LIVES would watch a documentary. It is that simple in Spain.

I still don´t like the format, and I don´t like The Voice either, basically cause if I want new music, I can go to any shop, youtube, spotify or whatever and I find zillions of singers I have never heard of before. I know they just want an opportunity and stuff, but I don´t like it. It doesn´t mean I don´t like Mika... I still like him and his music and never wanted to offend anyone. But my opinion is what it is...

I can't really tell how awkward it is because I can't speak or understand the language... but I do get the distinct feeling that he probably had a drink once filming was one.

 

Also... you guys do realize he's working on a new album, right?Like, for God's sake, he isn't giving up on music or anything and it hasn't even been that long since the last album.

 

Plus, Mika does not owe us anything. It doesn't matter how any of us feel about him doing commercials or doing talent shows or cutting his hair or any of the other trivial things that get argued about here...

 

It's very odd to me how incredibly critical fans are and how quickly they assume the worst...

Is he? How do you know that? For the other albums he needed to lock himself for 6 months to be able to write anything...

But yeah, MFC nowadays is plenty of ungrateful beyotchs... pfff

I confirm that not only teenagers listen and buy Stardust with Chiara, but a whole people in this country have fallen in love with him, mainly with the person, then with the song (which is melodic enough to appeal to Italian common people of all ages), and eventually (and hopefully) with his music in its entirety.

 

I also need to point out to my fellows new italian fans who start posting here in the MFC that fans from all over the world do not have a problem with Italy or our taste in music. They have a problem with MIKA and his way to manage his career. I don't want to go to facebook and read that the MFC is full of racists against poor Italian fans.

 

I'm Italian, i detest Stardust with Chiara, I don't like how Mika is managing his career even if he needs to find money. I'm desperate for new music and I don't like all his side projects. I will accept them only when I actually see and listen to new music. But I still love him...because I do, and I cannot forget 7 years of reciprocal love and affection. So in the meantime I feel as Christine and many others feel....thus not being in opposition to the Italians (or French) but waiting deluded in a corner.

 

Believe me....what we lived and hoped in 2007 and later was totally different from what we are experiencing in the last two years. We simply cannot be happy with the smell when we actually had a roast under our teeth. They just took it off before we could taste it in full.

And having less economical means does not necessarily leads to lower one's standards so much.

Thanks for explaining it so well. I particulary agree with the bolded part.

I confirm that not only teenagers listen and buy Stardust with Chiara, but a whole people in this country have fallen in love with him, mainly with the person, then with the song (which is melodic enough to appeal to Italian common people of all ages), and eventually (and hopefully) with his music in its entirety.

 

I also need to point out to my fellows new italian fans who start posting here in the MFC that fans from all over the world do not have a problem with Italy or our taste in music. They have a problem with MIKA and his way to manage his career. I don't want to go to facebook and read that the MFC is full of racists against poor Italian fans.

 

I'm Italian, i detest Stardust with Chiara, I don't like how Mika is managing his career even if he needs to find money. I'm desperate for new music and I don't like all his side projects. I will accept them only when I actually see and listen to new music. But I still love him...because I do, and I cannot forget 7 years of reciprocal love and affection. So in the meantime I feel as Christine and many others feel....thus not being in opposition to the Italians (or French) but waiting deluded in a corner.

 

Believe me....what we lived and hoped in 2007 and later was totally different from what we are experiencing in the last two years. We simply cannot be happy with the smell when we actually had a roast under our teeth. They just took it off before we could taste it in full.

And having less economical means does not necessarily leads to lower one's standards so much.

Thanks for explaining it so well. I particulary agree with the bolded part.

I was not talking about Canada, there are probably 5 people who were aware of Mika being in XF Italy... But Italians aren't certainly giving him platinum album sales because of willy willy.

Obviously. I hope he can get a solid fanbase in all those teenagers buying that Stardust single....

I was not talking about Canada, there are probably 5 people who were aware of Mika being in XF Italy... But Italians aren't certainly giving him platinum album sales because of willy willy.

Obviously. I hope he can get a solid fanbase in all those teenagers buying that Stardust single....

Not be sorry, I completely understand your point of view .

 

I follow Mika for a very short time , and then I don't know much about him. But in addition to his music, I find interesting the way he decided to manage himself and his image in a very ambitious marketing strategy , which aims to conquer many countries...but not using the classical global strategy of the majors. We're always talking about using his own image in some way, but perhaps the focal point is who decides what, where and how to do that. I think that now is Mika and not the record company to decide many things, and this is very interesting , because Mika is a very interesting person .

 

He is a particoular artist , creative and sensitive and this kind of artist , in my opinion , needs to get in a deep harmony with people to be truly understood. But this takes time. This way to enter inside every culture, with intelligence and respect, with diversified and a little crazy projects, perhaps gives him the chance to be really understood.

I think the ultimate goal for him is always the music, or perhaps , more importantly, to communicate with music. And to communicate we have to understand each other.

 

So, let's see the next step

two countries. Italy and France.... not many countries...

I can´t feel respect or see any intelligence in someone advertising a TV channel.....

I think people who have watched most of the season of XF have long forgotten that 2-minute clip that is definetely not representative of Mika's participation in the show...

 

As for his reputation, I see many important contemporary artists, such as Maroon 5 singer, in these shows and don't think it harms them...

 

PS: Michael Jackson sold Diet Pepsi back in the days:fisch:

I don´t know in Canada, but here people the only thing they remember about Mika is the "willy willy" stupid reaction. Maybe it´s cause it´s in a different language and they are not fans. Of course we remember many other important things but I was talking about what non fans see when they see Mika now.

And if I recall fine, the ad MJ did for Pepsi was the one where he got his hair burnt, right? It was an ad with MJ singing. Same as Mika did for San Miguel. It´s ok. Advertising a private TV Channel is not. But then again... this is my humble opinion.

Not be sorry, I completely understand your point of view .

 

I follow Mika for a very short time , and then I don't know much about him. But in addition to his music, I find interesting the way he decided to manage himself and his image in a very ambitious marketing strategy , which aims to conquer many countries...but not using the classical global strategy of the majors. We're always talking about using his own image in some way, but perhaps the focal point is who decides what, where and how to do that. I think that now is Mika and not the record company to decide many things, and this is very interesting , because Mika is a very interesting person .

 

He is a particoular artist , creative and sensitive and this kind of artist , in my opinion , needs to get in a deep harmony with people to be truly understood. But this takes time. This way to enter inside every culture, with intelligence and respect, with diversified and a little crazy projects, perhaps gives him the chance to be really understood.

I think the ultimate goal for him is always the music, or perhaps , more importantly, to communicate with music. And to communicate we have to understand each other.

 

So, let's see the next step

two countries. Italy and France.... not many countries...

I can´t feel respect or see any intelligence in someone advertising a TV channel.....

I think people who have watched most of the season of XF have long forgotten that 2-minute clip that is definetely not representative of Mika's participation in the show...

 

As for his reputation, I see many important contemporary artists, such as Maroon 5 singer, in these shows and don't think it harms them...

 

PS: Michael Jackson sold Diet Pepsi back in the days:fisch:

I don´t know in Canada, but here people the only thing they remember about Mika is the "willy willy" stupid reaction. Maybe it´s cause it´s in a different language and they are not fans. Of course we remember many other important things but I was talking about what non fans see when they see Mika now.

And if I recall fine, the ad MJ did for Pepsi was the one where he got his hair burnt, right? It was an ad with MJ singing. Same as Mika did for San Miguel. It´s ok. Advertising a private TV Channel is not. But then again... this is my humble opinion.

From what I understand, for Mika advertising is an honest way to be free and to avoid other chains which are much more heavy for him than an ad.

Evidently, between having to endure the pressure from the record company and working in television, he prefers the latter. Perhaps much fun and less problems.

The ultimate goal for him is always to be able to make music in the way he likes.

As it´s been said zillions of times here, anyone can do whatever the heck he wants to do, and of course Mika is among these humans beings I´m talking about. But if to make money he needs a whole year playing the judge in several different countries I´m not sure it´s going to help him with his own music. Maybe it helps his budget. But for sure he is not going to be trusted anymore as he was when he started being a 23yo musician who was against all this sh*tty commercial music that TV shows as The Voice or X Factor are doing. The thing is not "how" he gets money. He could even sell his body, I dob´t care. The thing here is his reputation. I´m sure all of you have these sort of shows in your countries. Can you really imagine Freddie Mercury being a clown in Italy? Really? Michael Jackson? or for those who were born before the 80s: what would you think of musicians as Leonard Cohen, Neil Young or Aretha Franklin selling out in the X Factor industry?

This is my point. I´m not a teenager, I´m not printing pics of Mika to decorate my walls. I have always supported him talking to my friends about a dyslexic who could create his own music, his own style, who toured the f*cking world with only one album released. And now, all they can see is a guy laughing his arse off in a "willy willy willy" video on youtube.

This is what I mean.

Can Mika do whatever the f*ck he wants? for sure.

Is he going to miss me if I´m not around while he does his non-music related stuff? or course not.

But the same way he is entlited to do what he wants, me too. And if I want to moan, or to show my disagreement, I´ll do. And I haven´t been around the last months due to my studies, and a sudden non-interest. Every now and then I come here to check if he has already made enough money to make an album. Then I read he´s said he is going to record this year. And the next thing I see is a pic of himself skiing in Switzerland

Can´t wait to hear his new album. Really.

Oh and sorry to have quoted you, it´s not about your post, it´s about the impression that MFC gaves lately...

From what I understand, for Mika advertising is an honest way to be free and to avoid other chains which are much more heavy for him than an ad.

Evidently, between having to endure the pressure from the record company and working in television, he prefers the latter. Perhaps much fun and less problems.

The ultimate goal for him is always to be able to make music in the way he likes.

As it´s been said zillions of times here, anyone can do whatever the heck he wants to do, and of course Mika is among these humans beings I´m talking about. But if to make money he needs a whole year playing the judge in several different countries I´m not sure it´s going to help him with his own music. Maybe it helps his budget. But for sure he is not going to be trusted anymore as he was when he started being a 23yo musician who was against all this sh*tty commercial music that TV shows as The Voice or X Factor are doing. The thing is not "how" he gets money. He could even sell his body, I dob´t care. The thing here is his reputation. I´m sure all of you have these sort of shows in your countries. Can you really imagine Freddie Mercury being a clown in Italy? Really? Michael Jackson? or for those who were born before the 80s: what would you think of musicians as Leonard Cohen, Neil Young or Aretha Franklin selling out in the X Factor industry?

This is my point. I´m not a teenager, I´m not printing pics of Mika to decorate my walls. I have always supported him talking to my friends about a dyslexic who could create his own music, his own style, who toured the f*cking world with only one album released. And now, all they can see is a guy laughing his arse off in a "willy willy willy" video on youtube.

This is what I mean.

Can Mika do whatever the f*ck he wants? for sure.

Is he going to miss me if I´m not around while he does his non-music related stuff? or course not.

But the same way he is entlited to do what he wants, me too. And if I want to moan, or to show my disagreement, I´ll do. And I haven´t been around the last months due to my studies, and a sudden non-interest. Every now and then I come here to check if he has already made enough money to make an album. Then I read he´s said he is going to record this year. And the next thing I see is a pic of himself skiing in Switzerland

Can´t wait to hear his new album. Really.

Oh and sorry to have quoted you, it´s not about your post, it´s about the impression that MFC gaves lately...

I started the thread a few weeks ago but got the date and even the name wrong!!

Here's the link:thumb_yello:

http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3978648#post3978648

That is why I couldn´t find it...

Mods, feel free to move or delete this if it has already been posted, I´ve looked for it but couldn´t find it.

Not sure whether this is the right place to post this or whether this has already been posted.

There´s a show in Spain called "Tu cara me suena" (sort of "your face rings a bell") where singers "imitate" other singers. This girl, Edurne had to sing Grace Kelly and this is the result. I won´t share my opinion

http://www.antena3.com/videos-online/programas/tu-cara-me-suena/edurne-imita-mika-cara-suena_2014011000007.html

I have to agree with you.

It's his choice to do it and he already said that he feels happy to be able to choose his own promotion, so, even if he must not have been very at ease while making this add (), he must have been ok with the idea.

 

But I would feel bad for him in the way Nina means it, if all what he does for promoting himself turns out that it deserves him and that he looses consideration and respect from fans and others, instead of gaining something. Simply because he is trying hard and I can imagine how he will feel if it doesn't work well or if it's even making the whole situation worst.

Oh well, in that case it´s all his fault. From his fandom I think we have been demanding music ad nauseam and criticising these side projects. For sure he is not keeping his old fans happy, and he already knows it. But I think he has decided that it compensates him, to do side project and earn more money than treating his fanbase.... his life, his choices.