Lena

We are talking about cultural conditioning and not just religious conditioning. Did the communist society accept homosexuality?

 

 

 

I don't agree with the things you say Lena but I believe that you are not saying things to hurt people. But I think we need to talk about this because you should understand how much these ideas DO hurt people.

 

You have this cynical belief that Mika is only speaking out publicly because he wants to sell records. But every celebrity who has come out in the past year has said that they have done it because so many children are killing themselves. Children are being bullied and harassed and driven to suicide by people who think homosexuality is wrong. Even if you would never do that the idea that homosexuality is wrong is the reason why this happens. Even telling someone that they need to be saved and should change their behaviour could provoke those feelings of despair because everyone wants to feel loved and accepted for who they are.

 

You said yourself if there is nothing to be ashamed of then why do people hide? Well the time has come for people in the public spotlight, like Mika, to come out and say that they are proud of who they are and that there is no shame in being gay. If these kids who are struggling with thoughts of suicide can see that there are other gay people out there who are proud of who they are and their friends and family (and fans) are also proud of who they are, then hopefully they will find the strength to get past the bullying and go on to lead a long and happy life, just as Mika is doing.

 

No one is going to change your mind for you Lena but I hope that you will at least consider the possibility that what you believe is not necessarily the absolute truth. You do not have to give up god and Christianity to open your mind about homosexuality. Greg Wells' father was a Christian minister and he did not judge as your church does. There are plenty of people, including Mika who have realized that these manmade rules have nothing to do with god or the teachings of Jesus.

I did not notice the communist way of life. We had socialist, by the way. Really you think, I had as a child thinking about men and sexual relations with them?? I played with dolls up to 12 years.

In 18 years, I came across the word "homosexuality" and could not understand what these things mean. Everything. The next meet with the theme was in 2008-2009.

I am just can not understand how children became homosexuals.

I do not understand how children can be in bed with someone. They are children!

Lena I can tell you are upset. But Jesus tolerance. He preached against judgement. For example: "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

We are all sinners, we are all imperfect and it doesn't do to judge one thing as being worse than others. This is what the Church does, and it causes a lot of damage.

Let's just imagine that Mika decided to try and conform to his church, by getting married to a woman, as the church would have him do.

How long would it be before that marraige ended, because he could not love her the way she deserved, or needed, him to love her. If they'd had children, then the children would also be hurt. That's like his Billy Brown song. Where he seems to have everything he needs, but can't help falling for another man and breaking apart his "perfect family"

So though Mika could have gone down that route, he didn't because it wouldn't have been right. It was wrong for Oscar Wilde, it would be wrong for Mika too.

Many gay men (and probably women too) have gone down the route of trying to marry themselves straight. It just doesn't work since people don't choose to be gay. Years ago men went to jail for being gay, so they wouldn't choose it for themselves.

I've said before that you have had this idealised idea of Mika. I don't say it to be mean to you. I could always see this coming. That he'd fall for someone and you'd be hurt. But think of it this way...

We're his fans. We see the best of Mika always. We see the man who sings to us and signs our stuff with a smile. We don't see the man who wakes up in a bad mood, or maybe snaps at someone because he's feeling cranky. His boyfriend will have a much different view of Mika than we have. Because Mika is just an ordinary guy. Not some sainted image.

So I think you should just love the Mika we all see, and let Mika-the-ordinary-guy live his private life, without any judgement.

Jesus loved prostitutes. He probably knew a few gay people too and loved them anyway. Remember that he died for all of us, not just certain ones of us. Church rules are man-made and nothing to do with Jesus. If you can think of it like that, you may feel much better. I hope so.

Maybe Jesus taught to leniency ... to patience? Turning upside down

Once I tried to imagine how much I love Mika?. What I did not turn away from him? I apologize in advance. I imagined him so and I thought if I love him so? The feeling of love did not go off from: bald, poor, abandoned by all, drunken, dirty, in a puddle of urine, vomit, a murderer, a disability, kooky, drug addict, a womanizer, lecher. Only there was no homosexuality. I even did not have the mind to think about it. I did not notice such things at all.

Yes, Jesus died for us all. To be betrayed again, apparently so ...

I'm sorry. It's hard for me English lessons. It's hard express thoughts in a foreign language. Very many lot of reading, writing and translating.

Lena: "Shame to say this words about all religions because this do not tally with the desire to live as you want. I do not know what religion forbids blood transfusions. There are many sects. I'm not with them. I am a blood donor. Religion does not forbid me to donate blood. But if it is banned, then I would still be a blood donor. Because this saves more lives. But friends and relatives say, that I ceased to be a donor. It is possible that I have strayed to the rescue. I always wanted someone to save . Doctors, rescuers and firefighters are my heroes.I condemn abortion. It is impossible to live in peace and know that you killed your child. It will forever remain in your memory. This weakness will not atone for any prayers."

 

It's not what I meant, Lena : I don't consider religion as preventing me from living the life I want. My friends are muslims, catholics, protestants or non believers. I want people to live the way they've chosen and respect others' choices. I can be regarded as a lost soul or lost sheep by some believers. but I tend to think we share the same values on the whole: you don't steal, you don't kill, etc.

As far as blood transfusion is concerned, it's a witness of Jove who told me that. I'm happy to learn you're a blood donor because people like you saved my life nearly 11 years ago.

We have always lived side by side with Muslims. I do not see them as outsiders. I am friendly to any religion. Because, no matter the name , God is one.

I am happy to give my blood. I would gladly gave my organs, if they could grow again. And of course, I would not choose who will get it and who does not:wink2:

for me personally i can say that god is the same for me like any other fairytales of my childhood. as a child i believed in santa claus, in fairies and monsters, and in god (i was brought up catholic). of course you will say it's not the same, but for me there's no difference, except that the belief that there's a god is widely accepted, and the belief that there are fairies isn't. at some point i learned to believe only in things that i can see or feel or for which there is a scientific explanation.

 

i never really thought about *why* this is like it is, but laurel's post made me think that bullying might indeed have been a reason. as a child your life depends on other people, you trust your family that they protect you, and where they can't, maybe you trust god that he does. but when something bad happens to you that no one can protect you from, not even your prayers, and you absolutely fail to see the meaning of why this happened, even keeps happening again and again, then you might lose your faith.

 

of course the fact that i don't believe in god doesn't mean i want to burn churches or support this in any way, it's absolutely not the same! churches for me are beautiful buildings, they have a special atmosphere, and i totally respect and understand that those who believe in god love those places and that this atmosphere and their prayers there make them feel calm and better.

 

maybe there is some sort of higher power, we all still know too little about this world to be absolutely sure. but the god i was taught about in my childhood doesn't exist for me, those are nothing but fairytale stories for me.

Thank you for your reply! Russian Grandfather Frost is fairytale for me). But if it sounds like Santa Claus ... I should look for one who is holy Claus ...)

When something bad happens to me, it is with God easier for me to carry it. God not just saved me and but gave strength me. He saved me from desperate deeds, and in fear. He is my censor. If I do something bad, then I'm very experiencing. Because I feel as if someone said to me: "Don't do this, don't. This is bad. You'll be sorry ." And yes. I am sorry that I "shut my ears". Who supports me now? God.

Well, Mika has already been saved by his gay lover so perhaps it is best to find someone you know in real life who would appreciate being saved.

You can not imagine how it looks in the translation.

Lena, everyone of us is influenced by education (family, school) and environment, society; so most of our thoughts and beliefs are not really ours but other people's.

The moment we realize that, we can change the ones which don't represent us, although it's not easy because they are absorbed at a subconscious level, what our conscious mind is not aware of.

 

 

 

Everyone is born an atheist. Someone has convinced you of your very specific beliefs about things like homosexuality because you were not born believing these things. I was never exposed to Christianity as a child so I do not have Christian beliefs and I never could. If you had grown up in a different religious environment you would have different beliefs.

 

I can't even begin to understand how or why anyone would willingly embrace the idea that god wants us to live lives of self denial and misery instead of experiencing love and happiness (or "doing what we want" as you put it). Mika is leading an amazingly blessed life filled with good fortune and the love of everyone around him. If god is not on his side then I'm not sure how you reconcile that, especially when there is so much misery in the world.

I just saw in my childhood, as my grandmother was crossing herself ... I derided her. But she only wept silently. Nobody taught me to believe. It was a different time. The country was atheistic.

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I can not speak to you as openly as you say. You can, because you are free. Nothing keeps your to denounce of religion. I feel the bleak emptiness of those words. But I almost can not say anything in response. I have to think before you write. Because I am not free to express my thoughts to you. Even if I don't accuse, attack, threaten Gehenna of fire and desire of bad things. ( And I never wished this for Mika ). Even the fact that I feel peacefully and I do not feel any anger, only regret. I am not free, not only because of my religion, but because of your attitude towards it. I'm afraid to offend. But no matter what I said, I'm a homophobe for you. But now for me not hurt to read it. Thank God I'm set to good. I do not even see if someone criticized me or deride. It is during these few days I felt better and spiritually stronger. I was able to cope with strong indignation, with a sorrowful thoughts, with the desire to kill myself. * I hope that I manage. And it happened because I was in the church these days. Not after how he gave the "Celebrate" and said of himself but before I heard these news.

That's really a shame. For many religions, contraception or abortion are out of question too. Even blood transfusion sometimes. I was raised by a Catholic mum and respect all religions. But what makes me sad is that strong believers/very religious people (Jove's witnesses or Islamic or Catholic people) want to save me when I tell them I'm not a believer, just a human being who thinks she's nothing more than a link in a chain and tries to live peacefully and respectfully.

Shame to say this words about all religions because this do not tally with the desire to live as you want. I do not know what religion forbids blood transfusions. There are many sects. I'm not with them. I am a blood donor. Religion does not forbid me to donate blood. But if it is banned, then I would still be a blood donor. Because this saves more lives. But friends and relatives say, that I ceased to be a donor. It is possible that I have strayed to the rescue. I always wanted someone to save . Doctors, rescuers and firefighters are my heroes.I condemn abortion. It is impossible to live in peace and know that you killed your child. It will forever remain in your memory. This weakness will not atone for any prayers.

I agree with that. I believe Mika has faith. If he didn't believe in God he wouldn't be upset with the church's teachings. But one of the most beautiful parts of any song I've ever heard is the part in Origin, where Mika sings "Thank God you found me." Now that is a true prayer and he's thanking God for giving him his wonderful lover. It's not about the physical side of his relationship in my view, it's about the love and support his boyfriend gives to him, that has influenced his music and his life.

He's admitted that he was in a dark place. He couldn't write, everything had gone wrong. He previous lover left him and Paloma nearly died. But someone came along and lifted him out of his despair and gave him new hope and inspiration.

I'm so grateful to this man for being there for Mika and making him so happy.

Also, I've never hidden the fact that I'm a Christian. But I also own a brain and I use it. I don't let any church tell me what to think, I go with my own heart and mind.

The Bible is a translated text, and anyone who translates, puts their own spin on things. Plus, there are many things the Bible says is wrong. Even having sex outside of marraige is considered a sin, but no one thinks that these days. Yet the church condemms someone who is in-love with a member of his own gender, even though that same love has enriched the person and made him whole, so that Mika can now say "Thank God you found me."

I thank God this man found Mika. Without him, we would not be looking forward to the album, which is inspired by the man Mika loves.

I felt a discrepancy here.

"God will do nothing to stop it"

"Thank God you found me." It caught my eye immediately.

But I'm pleased your words.

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I was struck by the fact that almost no one has any faith in God. This discovery for me. I could not even imagine this. This is similar to our Revolution when churches were burned. You can jump on the icons, or throw them in the trash as unnecessary? or did you realize that impossible do it? Just wondering how far this has gone...

Yes, I can understand you at a certain extent, and I encourage you to research as I did; religions are made up by men, spirituality is something else and it's what really counts, we don't need all those rules, they don't come from God - or Cosmic Energy or whatever you want to call it -

Believe me Lena, this comprehension would set you free and you would live much better

I do not want to be more free. Not one didn't impose me religion. I myself come.

No thought was forced upon me.

I think we have to remember that for many of the world religions, homosexuality is seen as a sin, and that if you have accepted that religious belief all your life without question, it may be hard - or even impossible - for you to accept someone as openly homosexual without seeing them as sinful and needing to be saved. It requires a paradigm shift in your view of the world, and that's not easy to make.

This is the only non-judgmental statement of facts able show what I think. Do not convey , but at least a little bit to explain what I think. Thank you, Silver.

Christine, I can understand that and experienced it myself: in the past I was a member of a religious group and we wanted to save the world

You should understand me at least "on the old memory"

Wasn't there a recent photo of him wearing the typewriter and "playing" it as if it were an accordion? Or did I see a pic of someone else with a red typewriter and now I'm thinking it's Mika? My memory is so terrible. Anyway the picture was a cute idea.

 

 

 

But why do you think this is what he wants? Why do you think he wants to enjoy the freedom of the 21st century to be with the person he wants to be with? You never answered my question. Why do you love Mika? Is that your choice? Did you chose to love a man that you will never know and will never love you back so that it makes you unhappy? Why would you do that to yourself?

 

People WANT to be with the person they love because they love them. That doesn't mean you can just pick and choose whether you fall in love with men or women. Do you understand we're talking about love here and not sex? You can live your entire life without having sex with another person but it's not going to change your feelings and your sexuality.

 

 

 

Because so many people are brainwashed by their church and their society to believe that it is wrong! Who wants to be judged and harassed and told you are wrong and should change things that feel perfectly natural for you?

 

I am an atheist. I feel no shame about that whatsoever. But I don't go to my conferences in the southern United States and tell all my company's clients that I am an atheist. They don't understand it. They were raised in a very religious society and they think it's wrong. I had the same experience in South Africa which is also a very religious society.

 

I don't see the need to bring up my atheism among people who don't understand it when my religious beliefs are totally irrelevant to whatever business I'm conducting or superficial socializing I'm involved with. Just like Mika felt he didn't need to discuss his sexuality with the public because he just wanted them to listen to his music. Sometimes you need to just go along to get along because every moment and situation in life is not worth fighting over.

 

 

 

I don't know where you are reading that but I have never talked to anyone who felt that they were gay and then decided that they could just be happy with a woman. It sounds like denial to me.

 

The bottom line is Mika is gay and he's not going to change. You can hate it. You can pray for him. You can hope forever that he will change. But he won't. I'm sorry it's upsetting for you and whether you accept homosexuality or not, you are going to have to accept that Mika is not going to live his life as a straight man. It doesn't matter whether I agree with his lifestyle. It doesn't matter whether you disagree with his lifestyle. It's just the way it is.

It's not a whim Lena. He's been sneaking into gay bars since he was 15 years old. He didn't make a choice to fall in love with a man because society told him it was okay. This is who he is, it's who he's always been and he's not going to change.

I do not know. This is what happened. I did not choose. He was making me unhappy and happy... Maybe, it is addictive. Maybe it will pass now. Maybe all this happened for the better. At least I have lost the desire to die. I sobered up. I'm afraid myself. I love passionately and I can hate passionately ... because I love . But I can inflict physical pain only to myself, but to anyone. Never. I would now rushed to save him, not sparing my life. But I can not accept his lifestyle. Again, to put blinders on your eyes? .. Too difficult. Because for me it is a sin. I do not know what it is. Let it is not love. God help me. I do not feel the wrath of those two days, although for me it would be a cause for anger.

I have no idea how to be an atheist. From this thought in my heart is empty, as if I've lost love, or even worse. Without God I do not see sense in life at all. He always listens to me. Mika had never been over of God for me. Never. He helped me to love him and protect. But you do not understand).

It's not your place to save him as you put it ... he's his own person ... a grown man ... making his own decisions ... which he has every right to do ... I'll be honest ... I don't know how you can call yourself a Mika fan and say that you love him when you feel like this ... what he does or feels has no bearing on you ... on what music he makes now or in the future ... I'm trying to understand your view point ... but I find it really hard to contend with such homophobic preaching ... that's why I'm not at all religious ... all I see is hatred mostly coming out of it ... I know I don't judge people ... I'm a good person ... I try to see good in other people ... what Mika does in his private life is exactly that ... it's private and nothing to do with me - we won't see eye to eye on this ever ... but I think you need to accept what is ... you can't change it

It is pure egotism that makes you say "He can't possibly love another man, it's just sex. He could turn away from it if he wanted to."

 

We could get into biology, biochemistry, but it would be pointless. It is what it is. Mika is in love with a man, with all the wonderful things that love involves.

 

To say he CHOSE to fall in love with a man is saying YOU could choose to fall in love with a woman, if you wanted to. Try it, and then come back and tell us how it went.

 

He can no more choose to be attracted to women than you can choose to be attracted to women. Gender preference and attraction is hardwired into the brain, it's not something we get to pick.

Before you're going to save Mika, maybe you should ask him first if he wants to be saved. I can already guess his answer.

This say all non-believers/ Sorry

But Lena, this has nothing to do with you, nothing to do with your beliefs, nothing to do with what you think is wrong or right.... it's about Mika's life and his beliefs...

If you choose to continue following Mika's career, then you have to take him the way he is.

I do not know what will happen tomorrow, I now know nothing. My life turned upside down. Because he will not take me for who I am? Be broken or go away? I'm at a crossroads. I do not know what I'll feel...

Woah hold up! Are you saying that becuase we accept Mika for who he is, that we don't care? I'm sure that everyone on this fanclub cares for Mika and his music, otherwise we would not be here in the first place. By you wanting to change him is not caring for him. And by saying that this is a 'whim' and that you must 'save' him is wrong. I think you should just accept him for who he is, he's not going to change- especially not for his fans. This is his life- not yours, not mine, nobody but his. Just please realise that he is with a man, he says he's gay, he is in love- and this is what is truly making him happy in life.

* For me, this is so, because I have other views. You take Mika such, because you love. I do not accept all it because I love. You do not understand.

Sorry, I'm tired of running after you.

Yes, it is gone. The only reason why they could even exist, is because they did not put their views into practise as an organisation, and you can't forbid an organisation based on what members of that club did, without doing it in the name of said organisation. They could only be prosecuted individually. Now they did find a way to forbid the organisation. It doesn't matter what you think about my country, and yes we are pretty liberal here, but nobody in their right mind here or anywhere else in the world would accept sex with children.

Awwww yeaaaaah!

 

 

 

If people judge you, shout at you, abuse you just because of who you love, there is no other way but to hide. That has nothing to do with right or wrong. That is self protection.

Scream and judge. Because some/me believe that they/you can cope with this, they/me believe that it is a whim. Do you understand?... I think it's a whim, but you think that this freedom of choice. Miscellaneous. Screaming because they/me want to save you. You do not want to be saved, because you consider free to make such a choice. There will never be completely right.

I have a very different vision. While I want to save Mika, it means that I love him. If I would not care, then I will say, "let he be the way he is. f* him"

Lena you have fundamentally different philosophical views on what it means to be heterosexual or homosexual than I do, than Ingie does and that many other people here do.

 

As far as I'm concerned homosexuality has nothing to do with "living as you want". If you fall in love with someone of the same sex then you are not heterosexual. It has nothing to do with behaviour or doing what you want. It just happens. Whether you agree with it or not, whether you understand it or not, it is natural for some people to fall in love with members of the same sex. It happens to children, the same way I first had crushes on boys when I was 6 years old. Do you really think that 6 year old children make conscious choices about who they feel love for? It just happens.

 

The church condemns these people for feeling what they feel. What difference would it make if Mika pretended to be straight and married a woman? Would it make the church happy? Would it change how he feels and who he is?

 

Why do you love Mika? I've heard you say many times that it is painful for you, that you cannot give him up, that you cannot live without him. And still you do it. But you expect Mika to deny his feelings and forget about someone he loves?

 

I'm sorry Lena I like you a lot and I know you are upset about this. But all I see is selfishness here. If you care about Mika you will learn to accept that this is who he is and he doesn't owe it to you or the church or anyone to pretend to be something he's not.

But this was offered me. live as I desire and choose whom I wish, irrespective of gender. Because, it is freedom now and 21th. I was shocked by this.

No I do not think so. This is an example of teaching adults and their approval. And pushing. Maybe I read the article misleading and your children are not taught that it is possible to try and choose with whom they will be more pleasant to sleep?

My egoism was shown, when I showed anger at Ida. But this was long gone. Now I really would have been happy if he married her. Or on the other girl. I overcame jealousy and selfishness. But now it's not the case. I can not recognize this as love. That's it. This is a sexual relationship.

Thank you, that you said you did not treat me bad. This is valuable.♥

But why do I hear and read examples of other gay men that they were able to cope with this? Why did I read that you can overcome yourself and do not go on about desires? I only hear what I have been accused of homophobia and say that I am wrong. Right now I am no longer afraid to be condemned. Because I have nothing more to lose. But I have not lost faith in my rightness. You can change itself itself if you understand that homosexuality is wrong. But not everyone wants. Because one do not want to give up easy and sweet, and work on itrself. And even more so when you are satisfied. Why do they hide? Why is hard to admit? Because it is difficult to be deceived. If you are right, then you have nothing to be ashamed of and you do not have to adjust itself for years, so to speak. I understand also that we have a different perception of life. I understand. I understand that you will not understand me. In the same way as I do not understand you. I can not here develop my thoughts.

I'm no extremist and don't attack they. I do not want they had troubles or punishment. I just do not understand how anyone can live like this.I deny myself in some things and desires .. I put down a lot and did not give a try. I do not think I lost something. This is whims . And if I could go back, I would have banned myself some things. I do not understand when a man thinks he can do whatever wish.

I guess you refused to comment on my previous post in which I said the organisation no longer exists because our nation was against it, and always was, but due to circumstances, it could not be forbidden. It is now. Do your research darling.

 

Also, as I mentioned before, I bet God will not be too pleased about this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10407559

 

So please, if you try to win this by using arguments like you did, make sure the thing you believe in is free of any blame

I'm not ignoring your post. Just do not have time to quickly read and respond. Yes, I would like to know whether or not it is gone. You poked me with this for year ago. That's why I showed you your. Sorry, that just today. I don't knew that this could be in real life.

I don't know if you mean me personnally or my country. Yes, Phaedophilia is terrible, but I don't understand why you had to drag that issue into this discusion:dunno:

 

Oh, and I don't think Ph is a subject to joke about.

Not you!

and who's the church to say how people have to live??

I say nothing. For you it is preposterous. For you to follow your instincts more important. (I'm not talking about you. No plural for "you")

I feel like a medieval pastor in Papua Guinea

What is PNVD?

Ik moest het ook opzoeken:naughty: Stichting Martijn.

Just fun, nothing more, really? I thought you was resent pedofeliya. You was so outraged, I remember ...

yuna[/b]; 3753289] I understand what you mean .. some apparently use 'gay code' for their fame or promotional purpose. and I hope and think he's not doing this. If he want to draw attention from public, he should have announced this just after releasing his album, in front of some important press I think.: Naughty: Happy he is not doing that! [/ QUOTE]

Okay, I give my rose-colored glasses for you.

christine[/b]; 3753318] Lena the church turned its back on Mika, not the other way around. They promote the condemnation of people who are not straight. I am not a Christian and I do not believe in god but even I can see that this makes no sense and is a corruption of the teachings of Jesus. [/ QUOTE]

I like it ... To blame the church, the Bible, the priests. But not a man. When the church turned its back on him? Its doctrines do not give to live as you want? I have not heard a word the charges against him. The church does not turn away. people are beginning to despise it, when their life does not fit with the church rules.

I could never agree with those random comments. I think his strategy with the new album is to be real and honest and to share his happiness and I think it's the right thing to do and also possible still keeping his privacy. And for me he looks happy, even relieved and I'm very happy for him and hope this can only make things easier for him in the future

I understand that I can not argue anything to those who sincerely considers that everything happens for the best for him.

Bull****. Just let the man be happy with who he is and don't try to find excuses because he finally says what we've known all along. There is no need to pray for him, because he hasn't done anything wrong. There is nothing wrong with being gay and the bible actually states that God loves all his children. And it does not matter if his children are straight or gay or black or white. I understand that you live in a country where homosexuality is not as accepted as it is in other parts of the world, but to say that this is all just a stunt to promote his album, that's nonsense. Live and let live.

Yes, I know a habit misinterpret the Bible to suit itself and rip the words out of context. Or just to attack the church. This is the "good tradition" It's not you to decide. "Live and let live" .This is the same as indifference.

I like it. You accuse my country in my face). And thank God that it is not like yours. Your PNVD is still alive?

It might look like that indeed, but I think that is untrue. Read Tiibet's post a few pages back, I agree with her. It is Mika's 3th album, why didn't he come out at his 1st or 2nd ten?

To 1st it was better not to say anything, but to arrange an intrigue. to 2st to say half. And to 3st tell all. But I hope he don't was sooo forethought.

It´s only clear for you Lena because you want to believe this. For the most of us it is clear that he feels it´s time to share his happiness. And we all are happy that he is happy. And also most of us don´t have any problems with his sexuality like you seem to have it. We love Mika like he is and not like we want to have him.

All always telling me what I want to believe in something.) Even now. When I have nothing left. Although I found)

I honestly don't understand what you're (trying to) say/saying....

I am writing awkward. I know. I still do not know the language. I wanted to say that should not deny the fact that he was in a hurry to tell everything for promote the album. To draw attention to the album. This is clear as day.

:aah:

 

well yea.. I'm happy for him, too.

Thanks god I'm obviously less jealous seeing him with boy than with gal

 

Yes I thought he is 90% gay since I got to know about him and almost 99% sure after seeing him in person But actually feared about his openly coming out, cuz I thought he should take a risk to lose huge fan base after that...

He's a great artist, musician, singer, person to me... and no one could kick him away from some part of my heart, even my boyfriend never could do that.

 

I love you Mika, in a special way You're the greatest and most amazing person I've ever seen.

It sounds as egotistically as my old desire that Mika was always alone. But worse.

No ... I don't agree with that at all ... that it's some kind of marketing thing cos' his album is out soon ... it's plainly because he's in love and happy ... happy with who is and happy to share it finally ... Mika has never been into pushing himself into the limelight not in that sense anyway ... so for you to try and say that it's fact and plain to see is wrong ... it's absolute fact that it's the complete opposite

Oh my! When he first told how his album will be called? A year ago. I take off the blinders from my eyes. Rather, they were forcibly stripped, along with my eyelids. The Origin of Love ... All. What isn't clear what kind of love will there be? Even I understood. Just I don't wanted to hear anything. Who did not know what he will say everything on the threshold of the album?? Even I knew it. I wondered when he will be say? In August or just before the release of the album? I felt that there were some days . If no one knew except me, I'm a prophet. lol For the sake of promotion. It's understandable.

I hurried into the Catholic church to ask for prayers for him. I wanted make it yesterday, even not a day later. Do not slept after my night work. I walked not in my church. In his church, which he turned away. I was there yesterday, on August 3. I was in a hurry, and he was in a hurry.

Why would he lose his fan base? Everyone who has ever listened to his lyrics already knew this and people genuinely interested in music don't care. And girls who only want to marry him find new imaginery boy friends all the time any way...

 

@dermoment Thank you for sharing your feelings

 

I just can't believe this was easy for him. I read someone (not a fan) commenting on FB he is doing all this to promote his album. So he didn't openly talk about this during his first two albums because he knew that releasing his third one would be commercially perfect moment??? I just feel SO happy for him, I wish everyone did

Why don't agree that this is true? This can be seen, even the blind man. Just do not want to think so. But the reality is the same as his words about himself. It is a fact.

I wonder what they will make up to deny this!!!

"I've found the strength to come to terms ..." He suffered. But for you it is ​​and recruitment of the proud, no more. I'm dying from your jubilation. If He had not been such, it is necessary that He become such. For the sake of another little plus. I think, you would have felt frustrated. But "they" feel pain. I'm not proud. I do not want to have bad and angry emotions. I learn humility. Unpleasant to see how people are just rubbing their palms, "yo! Our added." I feel compassion to Him. He was forced to come to terms and accept it. I do not believe that there was no choice, but He thinks.

You wrote "them" enemies, because they think differently. I found the strength to write it. Attack me.

Thanks a million for the translation !!!

 

I guess he talks about Russian teacher in this interview...???

-G. Mika, I know that Russian opera singer taught you to sing. What is her name and what she was?

-M. Her name was Alla and she is from Moscow. Her husband is a famous pianist Sasha Ardakov. Initially, he began to teach me to play the piano. But I was so incapable of a student in 10 years,what he handed me to his wife, Alla. She noticed I have a wonderful vocal abilities. I think I was incredibly lucky in my life the way I met this strict but insanely talented a teacher who loving her profession. Within six months of training with her I was invited to perform in London's Royal Opera House in Covent Garden . *All of this happened thanks to the incredible discipline and rigidity.

Thank you Lena and Zhenya for all the pics:thumb_yello:

 

 

 

thank you, it's a really good interview:flowers2:

you're welcome!

Thanks a million for the translation !!!

 

I guess he talks about Russian teacher in this interview...???

it is. But all know about. Nothing new. But I can write it too. But tomorrow only. Sorry, I'm working now. Not see the video

I really don't think so. He seems very comfortable and confident to me, not tense at all. Mika always handles himself well but he's usually talking about himself and answering the same questions over and over so it's expected. But it was very impressive the way he easily jumped into a discussion about something that he'd only just seen (unless Es Devlin tipped him off ). His comments were insightful and it was clear that he has a very wide ranging understanding of culture and arts and is therefore an ideal participant in a discussion like this.

Alright... Let it were my imagining

And I understand that it is useful to Him. It is necessary for His career. But I felt uncomfortable. out of place. He was tense.

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I'm sorry, Robertina. I know I'm not out of place too.