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^^ do i sense a "we don't swear on here"? I mean in reference to: "OMG Mika sang 'd*mn'" .. omg, he says f*** all the time... I'll keep that in mind, i don't wanna destroy anything delicate.

'fraid it's just the kinda thing people on other forums add to their sig... then they add the names of other member friends who also would sign the petition. We can do that here easy peasy, though somehow odd looks will be exchanged at signatures involving Placebo bandcest/old songs/hairstyles being begged for. You are right, you know. I can identify with a lot of the things you said. And i think the culter a band is, the more "essential" tooth-brushing times become to the obsessed fanbase... i don't think it's necessary if it has nothing to do with the band and their music. I'll never understand the types who wanna know what school Brian's son attends or what brand of deodorant they all use... it's creepy.

haha no, i was rather thinking of a note i read about not boinging Mika's curls. my brother has curly hair also so i know obviously how irritating the poor guy would find it. I've seen my fair few "Bring Back Short Haired Brian Back" petitions, and "Bring Nancy Boy Back", "Bring Back The Molko Mullet" arguments to even bother having an opinion. It might surprise you to find there are a lot of things i don't have an opinion on, other than it's crazy when people take it so seriously...

^ hahaha as an inside member of PFWW, i found your point has made my day, because it is exactly right, and i'm glad we had this exchange of views because it's a while since i looked at it from the outside, and it is really rather too deep sometimes which is why i'm diverting Beanie's cause from 'Bo forums in general because it will do his group no favours to be only accessible inside tight-knit groups of SuperFans. The forum's run like a tight ship and only has one active admin, which is to be applauded of course - but it's far from the fluffy cuddly discussions i've seen going on here, and sometimes really all i want is to feel like a 13 year old kid and talk about how nice someone sings and their pretty hair. Rather than cold metallic "on topic" discussion which descends into arguments. I bet there's no "drama" on MFC, because people here aren't taking themselves too seriously. (Of course not a knock to PFWW which i love, but already i find this forum is more adaptable and snuggly.) Though obviously Mika's community is going to be different... he's a whole other horse on the carousel than Cebo, and i acknowledge that.

Thank you all again for all this welcoming... it's really rare that i spot a three page Intro Thread on any forum i've browsed, that really shows me the beautiful atmosphere you guys have here, and which i'm excited to become a tiny part of. And especially thank you for accepting a fan as new as me, because i have every intent to learn the rich and wonderful sparkliness of Mika.

"What it used to be like for Placebo" = the scene that surrounded them, what their music was about and the members as individual people. The makeup of the band in the sense of influence, what inspired their music. This isn't really a statement about Forrest/Hewitt or overlapping fans. Of course i try not to see it as "old fans vs new" but we really do get a lot of this because of course everyone is entitled to be in love with the era/album of Placebo from which they first knew them. I knew them since Meds (2006/7), but the older albums fascinated me more and it's been a steep climb to know the majority of "important" Placebo facts which often take years to learn. This is what i do for the things i love, it's a natural learning curve towards things, i'm getting it for Mika too (within two weeks). It does annoy me that some fans are so opinionated. But definitely in the community i am in, if you wanted the reasons that shaped my comment: -fact: fans from before SWG era know "everything", and it's not a bad thing because otherwise i wouldn't know any of it either. -fact: a lot of original fans disliked the Meds album. Some of them have come back since BFTS because they've regained their respect for the band. -fact: there are still arguments about the two Steves (which i find unnecessary as "Sunshine" Forrest is in no way attempting to be any other person than himself, and Beanie seems so happy with his new project that the argument shouldn't get in the way so much) ^ and that's partly why i'm starting the forum for him because in that case the membership is optional, and people who don't want to follow Beanie anymore can stay on the Placebo forums and ignore him. I offered him the opportunity also to contest to me any topics which he finds distasteful, and basically it won't be a Placebo discussion, but a discussion of the new project whatever it shapes up to be, and a peaceful atmosphere. And again i'm sorry if i sound like i'm having a go at anyone, it seems to take me a lot of words to explain sometimes because i'm never very sure how many people i'm explaining to so i have to assume "all of you", and it's not directed spitefully to anyone here or on other forums, i like to stay good buddies with Placebo's rainbowy fans.

^ no that's not what i mean .. i love them both so much (though now you come to mention it, i suppose it is that way for a few people, but not most) I mean, the way in which newer fans usually don't so much understand what it used to be like for Placebo, many older fans find the newer fans a pest (it's hard to fit in as a new fan in that respect). I find i get along with everyone just fine because i know what they're all talking about. It was kinda hard to cram into a paragraph... weirdly i had the first myspace group for Steve Forrest, but recently i've been *erm* "speaking to" Beanie about *lets the cat out of the bag* a forum i'm going to start dedicated to his new project, which i've offered him the chance to name. [that's classified info] I'm just such an all-over Placebo fan, i've taken time to understand all the different stages that happened with the band and that's what i mean about relating to the older fans in that way. (Though i do stand by that some newer fans only know or care about the new album and the new drummer. Which is fine, i'm not knocking it, i just prefer to be involved with all of the band's history and the present too.) edit: the "disappointed to know" was directed specifically at Diana's comment about the core Placebo site having a favourite forum, in the sense that "unfortunately" for the owners of other sites, PFWW is gaining popularity. (And that of course "BUT", not all the members are happy with this and would rather it stayed a "family". It's really internal issues.) Sorry if i've somehow managed to seriously confuse anyone, obviously i'm used to addressing the crowd in question and having to accustom to this place too.

*thought Beanie baby needed to be in here too*

(thank you) yes, i did TPBM likes to play with PhotoShop / image tools?

Ahh. You'd be disappointed to know that PFWW has plans to become the official board. BUT this will be met with a flurry of "new" members (Steve Forrest and Come Undone fanatics etc) which will up the spam and probably send a rebellion, however that's how the board seems to want to change to mirror Placebo's image. I am a "new" fan, but i know my facts so i generally agree with the people who have been around a while - and i'm currently upstarting a task involving a certain man and his new project. Which is your board by the way?

In which case i shall compliment the party in question. I like Mikagasmic... it's going in my mental dictionary right above "Molkogasm". The bit that's in South England (Portsmouth) where they occasionally play Grace Kelly in ASDA and that's our yearly exposure...

Warning; really random statement: yesterday the Willy Wonka movie came on TV and i was thinking how much he sounds like he did as Edward Scissorhands in this movie, although i don't think Depp generally uses this voice for his characters. It's a rather intense, soft-spoken voice with the same chill as that of dear Micheal Jackson... well that's how i heard it anyways. Also i was thinking a fully musical version starring Mika would be fantastic...

If you don't mind me asking, why is it that you "refuse" to sign up? It's the only other forum i spend time on, because it's so active. (Apart from Placebo City, but i don't speak French.) I'm sure the members there are happy to take constructive criticism anyways.

Wow, i didn't notice you were 12 The bestest of my friends are younger than me, it's a magical time. From what i've seen it's endearingly appropriate here...lovely. Such is the charm of Mika i suppose.

Hi Alexia, I'm Boo. I'm new too, and i'm 16. I so love international forums. See you around.

haha i didn't *high fives and clinks glasses*

Awh hey and welcome I only just joined up myself, it's brilliant!

BRAVE MUCH?!? *primes self to post pointless and loving comment... and possibly link to youtube*

You're right... other day i found a grouchy-looking pic of Mika and me and Rosie were like... I have never even seen Stevie sulk. Unusual for a boy his age. And yeah i did fall hard, i think i smacked my face on Mika's bedroom floor following him around the WAG video. Woww so many people welcoming here. I think i should try and rub this off on t'other forum as people are more reluctant to just .. run up and grab newbies and douse them in welcomes. edit: "fantard" i think was defined in Placebo Fans Worldwide forum's rules as "the stage of fandom in the beginning where a person is prone to incessant 'spam' posts about the looks of the person in question and what they would do to them if they met" .. or something like that, i prolly shouldn't use inverted commas unless i know that's what they said.

I'm gonna do it then! On the very day TBWKTM hits the shops, i PROMISE a Mika thread appears in PFWW (so long as i don't forget).

Thank you guys, you're all so caring and bouncy. (How could I not expect that, Mika's the bounciest thing I saw since Stevie Forrest [Placebo drummer].) *looks around*

My beautiful three (Placebo).

granted, but now your mobile phone doesn't work. i wish Placebo fans liked Mika a little bit more...

I'm pretty oblivious to 'em. TPBM managed to read the whole of Twilight?

Grass stains.