pascale_geneva

2 minutes ago, pascale_geneva said:

BTW I’m a recent member and probably much older experienced and reasonable than you

I get along with quite a few fans whom I will carry on seeing. The rest are just people feeling superior to the others and trying to give lessons

Just now, pascale_geneva said:

BTW I’m a recent member and probably much older experienced and reasonable than you

Only one has apologised. The worse of the two hasn’t 

41 minutes ago, Jaela said:

None of this is my business and I do not wish to get dragged into some petty argument among older fans (which you could be solving privately rather than posting it all over MFC and Instagram, by the way, is what I would do if I were a responsible adult with years of life experience ) but I do want to say that I think it's out of place to equate your experience to sexual harassment. Being the victim of sexual harassment is extremely traumatic and it means someone is actively trying to harm you. I do not think that the ladies who made a snippy comment about you had the intention to harm or traumatize you at all, they simply made a comment without thinking much about how it could come across to you. That happens to all of us sometimes, because we're humans and sometimes we make mistakes or don't communicate well with eachother. From what I understand after reading the previous posts on this thread it seems those women have already apologised to you and expressed that they did not have bad intentions, so surely you should be able to solve this matter easily among eachother.

 

As I said, none of this is my business and I won't tell you how you should be feeling about all of this, but I would be happy if you could reconsider the specific sentence i quoted and realise that it can come across as very invalidating to those fans (teenagers, by the way) who became victims of sexual harassment at a Mika concert. Your feelings are valid, but you need to see things in perspective. 

 

Other than that I wish you all the best and please don't feel discouraged to go to Mika concerts and socialize in the future! We're with so many fans, there are surely plenty of others with whom you'll get along just fine  

BTW I’m a recent member and probably much older experienced and reasonable than you

37 minutes ago, Sabine64 said:

Of course it´s your decision if you want to join or not join MFC events in the future but if I would feel misstreated I would avoid those people and not the MFC as a whole. Btw I always experienced Carafon as a very nice sweet and fair woman.

I gather the « bad » one is Romy. I’m sorry if the MFC is not capable of drawing attention to this problem, then YES I do not wish to join any more events. I wouldn’t be the first one who gives up these events. 

11 minutes ago, dcdeb said:@pascale_geneva I didn't see your post before yesterday's IG Live, or else we could have spoken about it then. But of course we can talk about it here, too -- although I don't know if anything I say will resolve the matter in your eyes.

 

Obviously, I do not condone fans mocking other fans. I think that should be clear by now. I always try to treat others with kindness and respect, and hope that they will treat me the same way. Likewise, I hope that members of our fan club will treat each other with a mutual respect, as I have seen happen time and again over the years.

 

But I also know that this is not a perfect world and sometimes people say and do things without thinking how their words and actions might be perceived by others.

 

I'm not sure what you experienced in Verona. Maybe the women in question were simply trying to be funny and you misunderstood their comments? Perhaps their senses of humor are different from yours? More sarcastic, or snarky? Perhaps they too had had some wine and were speaking without considering how their words might sting?

 

I don't know. I wasn't there. I didn't see or hear what happened myself, so I can't judge.

But as you know, I'm not the boss of anyone here, nor am I the police -- how much easier life would be for me, a control freak, if I could control what everyone does! But no, each individual is accountable for how they behave, I can't control that. As I noted in my first post in this thread, aside from banning someone who violates the MFC guidelines from the forum and blocking them on social media, I have no "power" -- nor do I want it, to be honest. I can't prevent anyone from attending future Mika concerts or other events, or impose any sort of fine or penalty. I also don't want to publicly shame anyone -- I am not comfortable with that sort of thing for a number of reasons.

 

You say you wanted to make me aware of the situation, and that Mika would be appalled if he knew. Sadly, both Mika and I are well aware that there is often unkind, rude, and nasty behavior among fans. We can say that we condemn it until we're blue in the face -- and we have said it! But unfortunately that does not stop it from happening. Since the beginning of this fan club, fans have formed smaller groups with others they have a lot in common with. There's nothing wrong with that per se. Here on MFC, I have seen many of these subgroups develop over the years, and often there have been rivalries, jealousy and tensions among them -- French vs Italians, older fans vs younger fans, longtime fans vs new fans, fans who seem to get more of Mika's attention vs those who don't... I can frown upon these rivalries, and tell people that I don't approve when I see bad behavior, but that doesn't really change anything, does it? So instead I choose to focus upon all the positives that the fans and the fan club represent, and hope that will encourage others to do the same. And that's really all that is in my power -- what I choose to do and how I choose to react.

 

 

 

I'm sorry if you've been hurt, and I regret that you seem to associate the actions of some people with those of Mika Fan Club in general. I'm sad that it may have turned you off to the point that you want to avoid the fan club.

 

I've always found when I have an issue with someone it's best to speak to that person directly, in an effort to resolve whatever differences we may have -- unless, of course, there's a possibility of physical violence, then the authorities (security, the police, etc.) need to be involved. The longer bad feelings sit without addressing them, the worse they get. It's difficult to do, of course, but in my opinion it's the best way to handle a problem. If you feel you can't speak to that other person for some reason, though, and you think that avoiding them and any situation you may find them in is the only way for you to deal with the issue, then I guess that's what you have to do.

 

Thanks for sharing your feelings, Pascale -- I'm sorry if my response is not exactly what you were hoping for. I'll look forward to seeing you at a future concert, which I hope is in the not-too-distant future.

 

Thank you Deb. As I mentioned to Karin I am very sensitive (I m still crying while I’m writing) and I was  so shocked that I couldn’t react. The two ladies I could identify were @carafon and Romy. @carafon (Joelle) said it was their sense of humour. Well, it’s not mine. Do I have to accept this “sense of “humour? NO!! Proofs is that I get a lot of support on the social media. 

i noticed all the subgroups and competitive people who always want to be in the limelight. As if Mika cared! I don’t like it at all. 

I know that unfortunately you can’t do anything but I would be most grateful if you could raise this point during the next live. 
 

As I wrote I don’t feel like attending any more MFC parties  I will only see my real friends. It is a shame that a nice and respectful person like me has to give in. 
 

I look forward to seeing you at a future concert 😘

3 minutes ago, mellody said:

Sorry @pascale_geneva to hear this happened to you. I wonder, have you tried to talk to the person/people in question before you make public posts about it? I think this should always be the first step. Some people might just be careless and not even realize that they hurt others with what they say. Especially at 1am when everyone's tired and at the same time overexcited about meeting Mika. Or, when they stood in front of you, did you politely remind them that it was your place and they refused? Or maybe they just thought you didn't want your place anymore but that you preferred to stay with your friend? Or just didn't think much at all. I don't know, I was there but I didn't see or hear what happened, and you didn't tell me. You say the person followed you on IG, have you DMed them about the incident and asked for clarification?

I’m very sensitive and was so shocked that I couldn’t react. One person @carafon apologised privately arguing that it’s her and Romy’s (I don’t know her username) sense of humour. Well, it’s not mine. Frankly I feel like neve attending again any MFC party, live etc etc. I am gutted!

49 minutes ago, Florine said:

On your own but with me 🥰

Of course ... and a few more real friends 🥰❤️❤️

4 hours ago, Florine said:

I've just discovered this topic today and I'm really glad to know it exists.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of problems in this fandom (don't mind me, I know it is happening everywhere and probably in every communities) and I'm glad there's a place where we can speak freely about these kind of things. 

As you might have seen it lately, this problem are worstening and I've been myself a victim of online harrassment. Trust me, it can be hard to be a part of something and to suddenly realise that you are truly nothing. 

 

I'm shy and I usually sat in the queue with my brother or my friends, minding our own business. But even with that behavior some people seems to disapprove or they truly can't support the presence of others.

WE are supposed to be a part of something amazing, something big. But some are just destroying that feeling because they think they are more, they have more values. And I don't speak about myself only but if we are honnest you have probably seen some others fans who were truly, truly close to this community and don't want to come in here anymore because what is happening irl//in private doesn't match with what we're supposed to live. 

 

I totally agree with you, Florine. I do not wish to go to any more MFC events, from now on I will only go to Mika's concerts - ON MY OWN!!!

11 hours ago, TinyLove_CJ said:

 

It sounds awful the way you were treated by those ladies, it really is unacceptable!

 

There is a thread here for discussing harassment/bullying within the fandom:

 

 

 

Thank you so much, CJ 😊😘❤️❤️

                                                                                                            Mika's cape hanging next to the Arena artists' entrance

Hi everyone! 

Mika’s concert at the Arena di Verona last week was magnificent. This was the highlight of my stay in Italy along with the few days in Venice with @Michelle Blondet. Nevertheless, I was quite happy to go back home after having been terribly hurt by a group of Mika fans.

I would like to draw @dcdeb's  attention to the behaviour of some Mika fans towards other fans.

In Verona I was the target of criticism in the most DESPICABLE way. While we were waiting outside to see Mika after dinner, I pointed out to @Anna Ko Kolkowskathe place next to the artists’ entrance where Michelle and I had spotted Mika’s cape in the afternoon (which I posted on Instagram and other social media, and which Michelle also posted later on). The lady standing next to me, who was sitting next to me at the dinner table, said to her friends - all French except one Swiss lady (so far, I do not wish to divulge their names, they should recognise themselves) - that I was imagining things and maybe this was due to the glass of red wine I had! They went on and on and were laughing at me. These ladies surely knew I could hear everything or are they too stupid? Then they started criticising Geraldine, Mika's lovely hairdresser. I dare not repeat what they said. A few minutes later, while I was turning my head a couple of minutes to talk to Michelle, the lady next to me stepped in front of me. As I’m short and she’s tall, you can well imagine that I could not see anything. This behaviour is UNACCEPTABLE!!! I WAS EXTREMELY UPSET and could not stop crying the next morning when I mentioned it to Michelle.

By the way, the Swiss lady saw my post with the cape a while later and liked it. She even started following me on Instagram!! Couldn’t she apologise??

Other people, such as Michelle and of course @Florine, to name just a few, confided in me and said they had been the target of these fans’ criticism.

Mika would be appalled if he knew everything that is going on among his fans.

I would like this topic to be addressed during tonight’s live, if possible, or a forthcoming live, as it is just as important as sexual harassment during concerts.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND ATTENTION ❤️ 

17 hours ago, Chiara 83 said:

Brief update about flowers ⚘ for Mika:

Firstly, we want to thank all of you for your generosity and participation🥰

Together with Karin and Deb, we opted for a beautiful and colourful big flowers basket instead of a bouquet, because it's easier to transport if Mika wants to take it with him somewhere else. Not from the catalogue but customized. 

Basket +delivery cost+ card with message in the name of MIKA FAN CLUB will have a budget around 100/120€. But I will have the final price tomorrow. 

With money left from your payments, we're thinking to do a second gift to Mika, further details will be given tomorrow 

Thanks again🌺

 

Thanks! How much is it per person and what is the PayPal address to send the payment to? Thanks 🙏 

7 hours ago, Prisca said:

Ok, here comes the menu, can you please say by this evening/tomorrow morning what you prefer so that Grazia can tell the restaurant, thank you.

 

Please write here if you have intolerances and can't find anything in the list that you can eat. The cook can make pasta without gluten, but not pizza.

 

Other questions? Please ask.

 

Cena di domenica 18.09.2022 ore 21.15
numero ospiti 52
costo 35 eur cad
e comprende:

- Mezzo metro pizza con i seguenti gusti per 3 persone:

• Bianca con fiordilatte, grana e pancetta stufata
• Rossa con salsa datterino, fiordilatte e grana
• Napoli come l rossa ma con acciughe di Cetara

oppure

• san Valentino con salsa di datterino e bufala d.o.p

 

- oppure uno dei seguenti primi piatti da scegliere tra:

• Risotto all'Amarone della valpolicella
• Maccheroncini al valpolicella con ragout di anatra
• Pasticcio di lasagne con tastasal veronese e formaggio di malga

 

- Dolce da scegliere tra

• Tiramisù della tradizione
• Sorbetto del giorno

 

- Beveraggio incluso

• Acqua (nella caraffa quanto si vuole)
• una bevanda soft drink
• un caffè

Ulteriore aggiunte saranno conteggiate al momento.

Orario di arrivo ore 21.15 chiusura ristorante 00.00

 

menù dinner september 18 2022 at 9.15pm

- Half meter pizza for 3 people with follows ingredient:

• Bianca with fiordilatte mozzarella, bacon and parmesan
• Rossa with fiordilatte mozzarella, datterino tomato souce and parmesan
• Napoli the same rossa but with Cetara anchovies

or     

• San Valentino with date sauce and buffalo d.o.p.

or

• Typical risotto cooked in Amarone red wine
• Housemade red wine macaroni with duck ragout
• Baked pasta lasagna with pork ragout and malga cheese

 

- Dessert to choose beetween:

• Tiramisù
• Sorbetto of the day

 

- Beverage included

• Water (in the carafe as much as you want)
• one soft drink
• one Coffee

Other alcolic drink to pay separately

And further additions will be counted separately

 

Arrival time 9.15pm closing restaurant 12.00am

I would like the typical risotto cooked in Amarone red wine + sorbetto of the day  + water. Many thanks 🙏 

1 hour ago, Chiara 83 said:

Hello everyone 😊

We would like to send a bouquet 💐 to Mika in the name of MFC.

I am organizing this together with Deb and Karin.

I have already contacted a florist in Verona who regularly makes deliveries to the Arena. 

https://www.lavienroseverona.it/

 

We would like to know how many of you intend to join us in order to formulate a budget. There are many types of bouquets with different prices. We'll obviously buy a card with flowers. 

I know that some of you have already bought their own flowers to Mika so feel absolutely free to decline this proposal.  Of course, we would like to include as many fans as possible😇

Hopefully the bouquet won't be the same😅  Let us know 🤗

 

I would like to take part 🥰

45 minutes ago, GRAZIA ARTUSO said:

Thanks!❤️

It’s done👍

1 hour ago, crazyaboutmika said:

       

I love you guys

Thank God I found you

I love you too ♥️

25 minutes ago, Anna Ko Kolkowska said:

 

Hi Pascale.

Yes, please bring them. Maybe we will use them as well 

I will need to stamp TINY LOVE on them so maybe you could bring them to the dinner on Sunday evening?

That’s exactly what I intended to do!!👍 See you there ❤️

4 minutes ago, Gabry74 said:

T9! 🙄 Done, sorry Pascale! 😘

No problem!!

4 hours ago, Anna Ko Kolkowska said:

 

 

Yes, Karin. It's for Tiny Love. 

We will have color hearts in 30 first rows. I don't count possible added 4 rows on the front.

 

On most of them there will be printed TINY LOVE. ( I will not be able to have all hearts in my hands before the concert, so some of them will not have the print)

 

 

Anna, I still have about 30 hearts left from the London gig. I couldn't distribute all hearts upstairs as I hurt my leg going along the rows and had to stop jumping over seats  Shall I bring them?

1 minute ago, Gabry74 said:

1. Maddalena 

2. Gabriella Bodrito

3. Artuso Grazia

4. Ganzerla Manuela

5. Beatrice Di Lauro

6. Elisa Zaccherini

7. Teresa Moro

8. Sabina Tassani

9. Laura Bianchi

10. Milena Emila (Rossa)

11. Elisabetta Cordari

12. Emilia Carnevale

13. Maria Teresa Ferrè 

14. Antonella Pozzer

15. Marijana Tumbin + 1

16. Angela Zagami + 1

17. Lydia Coia + 3

18. Camilla (Serendipity) 

19. Michelle (Holdingyourdrink)    

20. Karin                                

21. Prisca                              

22. Fanny

23. Michelle Blondet

24. Nina

25. Annik

26. Chiara Canzini

27. Suzanne 

28. Gabriellina

29. Caroline

30. Anna

31. Elena Mastro

32. Grazia Simone

33. Michela Barchiesi

34. Lorenza Marega

35. Pascale

36. Lunari

Totale 41

Thanks!! I just made a small correction. My name is spelled Pascale

Just now, Gabry74 said:

Yes, of course! Thank you ❤️

Will do!!

5 minutes ago, Gabry74 said:

1. Maddalena 

2. Gabriella Bodrito

3. Artuso Grazia

4. Ganzerla Manuela

5. Beatrice Di Lauro

6. Elisa Zaccherini

7. Teresa Moro

8. Sabina Tassani

9. Laura Bianchi

10. Milena Emila (Rossa)

11. Elisabetta Cordari

12. Emilia Carnevale

13. Maria Teresa Ferrè 

14. Antonella Pozzer

15. Marijana Tumbin + 1

16. Angela Zagami + 1

17. Lydia Coia + 3

18. Camilla (Serendipity) 

19. Michelle (Holdingyourdrink)    

20. Karin                                

21. Prisca                              

22. Fanny

23. Michelle Blondet

24. Nina

25. Annik

26. Chiara Canzini

27. Suzanne 

28. Gabriellina

29. Caroline 

30. Anna

31. Elena Mastro

32. Grazia Simone

33. Michela Barchiesi

34. Lorenza Marega

Totale 39

 

I will update the list as I receive more requests. We have printed 600 crowns for the audience. For those who want to print more copies I share the pdf. Thank you. 😊

 

 

CORONA.pdf 169.86 kB · 1 download

I could print 20. Is it OK?

3 hours ago, Gabry74 said:

Hi Karin and everyone! We have a list of people who would like to have dinner together, the night before the concert in Verona. We are looking for a restaurant that can accommodate us. If we combine the two lists, I think we would be about 50 and it would be amazing to be together. As soon as Maddalena tells me the name of the restaurant, I’ll tell you. Let me know if you’re interested. Thank you. 😊

 

1. Maddalena 

2. Gabriella Bodrito

3. Artuso Grazia

4. Ganzerla Manuela

5. Beatrice Di Lauro

6. Elisa Zaccherini

7. Teresa Moro

8. Sabina Tassani

9. Laura Bianchi

10. Milena Emila (Rossa)

11. Elisabetta Cordari

12. Emilia Carnevale

13. Maria Teresa Ferrè 

14. Antonella Pozzer

15. Marijana Tumbin + 1

16. Angela Zagami + 1

17. Lydia Coia + 3

18. Camilla (Serendipity) 

19. Michelle (Holdingyourdrink)    

20. Karin                                

21. Prisca                              

22. Fanny

23. Michelle Blondet

24. Nina

Totale 29

I'm in, dear Gabriella 

2 minutes ago, holdingyourdrink said:

Can I just say that I love this preplanning!!! I can’t wait to see you all!!! 

Can't wait either!!! Forgot to mention in my previous message: I'm in for dancing to Mika music if at all possible!!

5 hours ago, Prisca said:

Above all, we should decide quickly. The Italians told me that it's not easy to find something for so many people so late...

I'm in for dinner and maybe a drink afterwards! !