Let's talk POLITICS ( NO FIGHTS)

[kk448]

There's a phrase "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."

Meaning you can change the way something looks slightly, but it doesn't change the truth.

 

Palin made the comment the other night "You know the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? Lipstick."

 

(She's a hockey mom, and she meant she's tough)

 

Barack made the lipstick-on-a-pig quote, and now republicans are saying it was a deliberate attack on Sarah Palin.

 

Even though McCain used the same quote seemingly referring to Hilary awhile ago.

 

In the same thought, Barack also said that "You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink after 8 years." So was he calling John McCain a stinky fish and calling Palin a pig then? Please. I hope people don't believe that crap.

 

I just hate that the Republicans are able to get the Americans riled up about such comments, and I think Barack should be more careful though I know sometimes, it doesn't really matter what he says because that's politics. Also, I am wondering why no one is allowed to say anything bad about Palin. It seems like everyone gets uptight about it. Why? No one cares if someone says something about Hilary, or Obama, or McCain, or Biden. Why should Palin be any different?

 

Actually I'd rather everyone just run a clean campaign and tell me what you're going to do for the country instead of analyzing every single word the opponent uses.

[Guest]

I'm not voting because:

I don't like either of them.

 

But if I had to choose, I'd vote for McCain. Mostly because I like Palin, and Huckabee's voting for McCain. That may seem like a dumb reason, but I'm a Huckagirl, so y'know.

 

Plus, I like the Palin voted to give herself a pay decrease.

 

OH, and did you hear what McCain said about Chelsea Clinton years ago?

"You know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly, don't you? Janet Reno's her father."

Ouchhh.

[Nielo]

Even though McCain used the same quote seemingly referring to Hilary awhile ago.

 

In the same thought, Barack also said that "You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink after 8 years." So was he calling John McCain a stinky fish and calling Palin a pig then? Please. I hope people don't believe that crap.

 

I just hate that the Republicans are able to get the Americans riled up about such comments, and I think Barack should be more careful though I know sometimes, it doesn't really matter what he says because that's politics. Also, I am wondering why no one is allowed to say anything bad about Palin. It seems like everyone gets uptight about it. Why? No one cares if someone says something about Hilary, or Obama, or McCain, or Biden. Why should Palin be any different?

 

Actually I'd rather everyone just run a clean campaign and tell me what you're going to do for the country instead of analyzing every single word the opponent uses.

 

Being Dutch, American elections always surprise me in the sense that it seems to be more about attacking the other party than actually saying what they plan to do for the country.

The media is just all over it, so you never know what's true and what's not anyway.

 

I'm not voting because:

I don't like either of them.

 

But if I had to choose, I'd vote for McCain. Mostly because I like Palin, and Huckabee's voting for McCain. That may seem like a dumb reason, but I'm a Huckagirl, so y'know.

 

Plus, I like the Palin voted to give herself a pay decrease.

 

OH, and did you hear what McCain said about Chelsea Clinton years ago?

"You know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly, don't you? Janet Reno's her father."

Ouchhh.

 

He said that?

That's just... mean.

[Guest]

John McCain has one hell of a temper. He's all the time swearing at reporters, and when some guy asked if McCain was calling him stupid, McCain so "No, I'm calling you a fcuking jerk."

[Nielo]

John McCain has one hell of a temper. He's all the time swearing at reporters, and when some guy asked if McCain was calling him stupid, McCain so "No, I'm calling you a fcuking jerk."

 

 

I didn't like him anyway, but I'm not liking him any better now.

[kk448]

I'm not voting because:

I don't like either of them.

 

But if I had to choose, I'd vote for McCain. Mostly because I like Palin, and Huckabee's voting for McCain. That may seem like a dumb reason, but I'm a Huckagirl, so y'know.

 

Plus, I like the Palin voted to give herself a pay decrease.

 

OH, and did you hear what McCain said about Chelsea Clinton years ago?

"You know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly, don't you? Janet Reno's her father."

Ouchhh.

 

It's not so much that I don't like Palin. I don't know much about her, though I did really like her speech at the convention. I just don't like the circumstances under which McCain picked her. He didn't pick her because he thought she was the best candidate. He picked her, I believe, in large part because she's a woman (to further prove he's about change and it would seem hypocritical if it was another old white guy) and because he thinks that she'll help him win. That's it. I'm just wondering how much she'd actually get to do if they are elected into the White House.

 

And I get what you mean about Huckabee. My whole family likes Barack but they wouldn't have minded if Huckabee would have gotten it.

 

I always felt so bad for Chelsea Clinton when people made fun of her. I think the children should be off limits because it's not like they can help who their parents are.

 

I remember reading that Amy Carter was heavily criticized for bringing a book to one of the dinners because she wasn't showing proper respect. She was like 9, give her a break. At least she was reading.

 

Oh and I think Chelsea is actually quite pretty now.

[Guest]

Oh, definitely. That's obviously the only reason he chose Palin: she has a vagina.

 

I think it's sort of a blessing in disguise, in a way. I'm really starting to like her and her opinions. I think she has good ideas and seems very capable.

 

I know. I don't like Barack, but if someone started making fun of his kids, that'd just be low.

 

Remember when Kerry's daughter showed up at that film premiere or whatever with her nips sticking through her shirt?

[kk448]

Being Dutch, American elections always surprise me in the sense that it seems to be more about attacking the other party than actually saying what they plan to do for the country.

The media is just all over it, so you never know what's true and what's not anyway.

 

Even at the conventions, both parties just bashed the other party. Not being biased, but I thought Barack was the best at sticking to saying what he was going to do, though he did include plenty of jabs at McCain and the Republicans.

[kk448]

Oh, definitely. That's obviously the only reason he chose Palin: she has a vagina.

 

I think it's sort of a blessing in disguise, in a way. I'm really starting to like her and her opinions. I think she has good ideas and seems very capable.

 

I know. I don't like Barack, but if someone started making fun of his kids, that'd just be low.

 

Remember when Kerry's daughter showed up at that film premiere or whatever with her nips sticking through her shirt?

 

No, I don't.

 

However, the Bush girls are sorta exceptions to the rule. They're old enough to know what to do/what not to do. I'm probably just saying that because I think the whole Bush family sucks.

[Nielo]

I think families should be off limit anyway. You can't blame someone for whatever their family is doing/has done. Just like they can't really help suddenly being in the spot light because they're related to someone who is (running for) president.

[Nielo]

Even at the conventions, both parties just bashed the other party. Not being biased, but I thought Barack was the best at sticking to saying what he was going to do, though he did include plenty of jabs at McCain and the Republicans.

 

Yeah, but it actually seems to be expected of them to bash the other party. Just seems kinda odd to me. I agree with you that Obama seemed to be a bit more to the point than McCain. (At least from what I've seen.)

[Guest]

 

Chelsea's pretty now. She used to be a dog when she was a kid, but whatever.

 

AND ANOTHER THING: Why is everyone so down on Bill?! I'd have slept with him.

[musicfreak]

well i have always hated politics and vow never to vote:biggrin2: but this year in my classes, i've had to watch the speeches/convention for assignments. i've fallen asleep in a few:blush-anim-cl: but i guess the part i hate most is all the lies and talking bad about the other person:thumbdown: why can't we all just be happy?

[kk448]

 

Chelsea's pretty now. She used to be a dog when she was a kid, but whatever.

 

AND ANOTHER THING: Why is everyone so down on Bill?! I'd have slept with him.

 

Oh wow. That couldn't have been a mistake.

 

Oh and shame on you, Sarie, for posting naughty pictures on this forum.

 

And I'm so glad you said that about Bill. I've always had a crush on him and everyone, except for one girl, I've said that to says, "Oh gross!"

[Nielo]

I've always wanted to vote, but the last time we had elections in Holland was a couple of months before my 18th birthday, so I couldn't vote.

[Wendi]

 

Chelsea's pretty now. She used to be a dog when she was a kid, but whatever.

 

AND ANOTHER THING: Why is everyone so down on Bill?! I'd have slept with him.

 

He is kinda cute!!

 

From this side of the channel Obama seems to have the better press!

The whole Palin thing was seen as an attempt to get the women's votes

who had backed Hilary, but didn't want to back Barack!!

[Guest]

Oh wow. That couldn't have been a mistake.

 

Oh and shame on you, Sarie, for posting naughty pictures on this forum.

 

And I'm so glad you said that about Bill. I've always had a crush on him and everyone, except for one girl, I've said that to says, "Oh gross!"

 

I remembr being a little girl (bare in mind, I was born in October of 90) and seeing his ads on TV (I was about 4, and yes, I have a good memory)

 

Anyway, I don't remember what the commercials said or anything, but I remember thinking "Wow... he's good looking like The Beatles."

 

Even now. It was all I could do to contain myself from molesting him when he was at a local college.

[Guest]

[artsyfartsy17]

Did anyone see this? I thought it was interesting.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2360240.htm?section=world

 

Obviously America gets the last say but I really, really wish Barack wins, and I think it's important that America starts getting a better image. If we didn't have such a bad image then we wouldn't even be in Iraq right now and September 11 wouldn't have happened.

 

Thinking bad on how many people I heard complain about Bush for the first four years. Then they reelect him. Then they complained about Bush for the second four years. Now when I believe we have a good Democratic candidate to change things, people are starting to lean toward McCain, mostly ever since Barack made the religious, gun-clinging remark. I don't care what McCain says but between him and Barack, McCain is going to be most like Bush, by far I think. Also, to think that if something were to happen to McCain, Palin, with her few years experience (in Alaska no less) would lead our country? Yikes. I know a lot of people think something will happen to Obama but I think Biden is more qualified than Palin to run the country. If McCain gets elected, I don't want to hear any American bitching about how bad the government is.

I will vote for Obama, and if McCain wins, I'll continue to bitch. It's because we're not the ones who are actually voting for candidates.

 

Thank you, electoral college.

well, did they rewrite the bible since i read it the last time?

 

(Levitic chapter 20 verse 13)

 

as much as you are PRO LIFE, im PRO SENSE

 

i dont trust obama that much but its very important to vote for him, to break the white men supremacy chain, to make people equal for good:thumb_yello:,

Proof that the Old Testament has indeed been pointless since the moment Christ said it was.

 

People won't be equal if he gets elected. There have been men of color, and women, and women of color elected to this type of position in other countries all over the world, and the sad truth of the matter is that it's still a supremacy where we have very little say, it's just disguised in a different body.

There's a phrase "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."

Meaning you can change the way something looks slightly, but it doesn't change the truth.

 

Palin made the comment the other night "You know the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? Lipstick."

 

(She's a hockey mom, and she meant she's tough)

 

Barack made the lipstick-on-a-pig quote, and now republicans are saying it was a deliberate attack on Sarah Palin.

Some people need to get a life.

John McCain has one hell of a temper. He's all the time swearing at reporters, and when some guy asked if McCain was calling him stupid, McCain so "No, I'm calling you a fcuking jerk."

 

He's old, he's allowed to be crotchety.

[Guest]

He's old, he's allowed to be crotchety.

 

Probably needs more fiber in his diet.

[artsyfartsy17]

well i have always hated politics and vow never to vote:biggrin2: but this year in my classes, i've had to watch the speeches/convention for assignments. i've fallen asleep in a few:blush-anim-cl: but i guess the part i hate most is all the lies and talking bad about the other person:thumbdown: why can't we all just be happy?

Because happy doesn't get you the vote.

Probably needs more fiber in his diet.

And less of those darn kids going on his lawn.

[musicfreak]

I will vote for Obama, and if McCain wins, I'll continue to bitch. It's because we're not the ones who are actually voting for candidates.

 

Thank you, electoral college.

 

 

the exact reason i refuse to vote:mf_rosetinted:

[musicfreak]

Because happy doesn't get you the vote.

 

And less of those darn kids going on his lawn.

 

it'd get my vote...well, that and if our votes actually counted.

[Guest]

Because happy doesn't get you the vote.

 

And less of those darn kids going on his lawn.

 

Why when I was a boy, we didn't have lawns.

Just fifteen miles of snow. And you had to walk through it to get everywhere.

[artsyfartsy17]

it'd get my vote...well, that and if our votes actually counted.

Yes indeed. There was a nice guy, the only candidate I would be willing to fully support, one Mr. Dennis Kucinich...but as usual, he was practically ignored.

Why when I was a boy, we didn't have lawns.

Just fifteen miles of snow. And you had to walk through it to get everywhere.

 

Barefoot. In a blizzard. Just to get to the barn for the butter churn, before you realized you'd left it in the house the day before.