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lets! I'm pro gay union:biggrin2: btw I'm a bit confussed cause I think gay = homo men and women But someone told me gay was just for gay men and that's why there's the term lesbian is it really like that? we can still talk about it ... but in another thread, was what was asked here:thumb_yello:

Actually I don't mind being proved wrong..I've been, in different topics and changed my point of view I just know this kind of discutions end up in fights, because people turne from saying their opinion to insulting i have friends that stop talking to each other due to this kind of arguments that's just sad so yeah I'm scared that this kind of thing will happen here and people will end up mad at each other and that's what I want to avoid, but I still wanted to say what my opinion agree! I'll stop talking about it here

+1 this is why I was afraid of saying my opinion... this tipe discutions always end badly

be pro life or pro choice I recomendo everyone to watch this: http://www.bloodmoneyfilm.com/trailer.php the trailler of a documentary about abortion I haven't seen it but I'm pretty sure it'll be as or even more shocking than the documentary Al Gore did

hahah we are a couple of scaredy cats you go girl ! I'm also pro contraception I mean I somehow felt related with what Mika said about "taking what we like from religion" As I have said I don't believe there's an absolute and only truth and we can think for ourselves, what is better to do. Of course is better to not conceive at all than to abort. I don't argue with that I'm with you all the way but just a toy-girl -mika96 said abortion can be seen as murder ...

aaw tan bella mil gracias por ayudarnos con evempro Noooo ni se te ocurra decirle nada al ...innombrable!! bueno no se si capaz ahora en estas fechas dicembrinas vayan a hacer algún festival...

thanks! actually I was bit scared to say anything I know and I do like the way he expressed himself without being rude or polemic and quite artistic as always I just had a different image well what I meant that I do believe it's baby was that I see fetos as a living creature with as much rights as anyother has to live and I was just saying... people only think in the poor mom and dad, but what a bout the person-to-be ... I'm pretty sure that eventhought that person will have problems, pain and difficulties if given the choice the person would chose to live... well I don't know this is a very delicate topic for me, I have friends that had gone throw really bad emotional moments to the point of wanting to kill themselves, and I know this isn't the same thing but my point is that with this experience I know that sometimes people choose to fight their problems instead of going "with the easy way out" = death. So just saying that maybe MAYBE this baby if given the choice would rather fight and give a chance to life instead. Probably is not the same as beeing born with desabilities but just saying that the onlyones involved here aren't the parents and yeah I know people in countries where abortion is illegal they still do it and go throw mayor complications, me country is one of them, but still there's always a group how refrain themselves from doing so cause it's illegal. yeah most people whant to adopt perfect babys but I know people who have adopted kids with problems so it's not a rule. anyhow live is not black and white there's not a one and only truth. but I believe every living creature has the right to live, be it a dog, plant, a bug, or a fetos. Life is a really delicate thing and we shouldn't mess up with it. ...that sounded so cheese, oh well! peace Y'all

I said I was sad cause well I thought Mika was more peace and love –ghandi- kind of man... and well... I’ve talk alot about this with friends that are pro choice so I’ll just say what I always say. But first I want to say that, before I used to dive a d*mn about this toppic, I always thought people can do whatever they want with their lives and I wouldn’t have an opinion on such a controvertial topic without being in the shoes of someone who would need an abortion. And I have personal experience of friends getting pregnant at a young age.... BUT it was.. I think in 2006, when I had to participate on a debat about abortion so I had to do research and well... I read a lot of thing that made me pro life. I’m not gonna ramble here about what I read cause I know everyone has their opinion on the toppic and I’m no expert and I know I won’t convince anyone to change their mind. But mainly the thing is that a choice is not given to the important person here: the baby...I know people say fetos are not babys but I DO think they are. And a doctor (I can’t remember his name SORRY) who at begining of his career practiced abortion, at a certain procidure he felt that the fetos was “runing away” from the ...I don’t know how to call it in english ... runing away from the machine..? anyways the point is fetos are living creatures. And well if I’m against killing a cockroach, Heck I’m against abortion! Plus back then in 2006 the cases of rapes that ended up in pregnancy were about 2% (I know there most be more, cause not everyone report it) And the only “reson” that keeps alot of people from perform abortion is that it isn’t legal. So if it his made legal alot of girls that are actually being inresponsable with their lives will be even more irresponsable cause then if you “screw up” you can always “fix it with abortion”. Which will give wings for people to take sex in an even lighter way ...and well I think that sex is a serious matter, due to all the diseases. So... given sex a lit less of weight on the minds of young girls will probably make STDs alot more frequent. plus..people have their choice when they decide to skip the safe sex. (no considering the rape cases) On the other hand if its a teen girl and dosen’t want to take care of the baby plus her life is just beging and blah blah well there’s always adoption. Which I don’t get way people see it more of a tabu than abortion. :giveup:So yeah this is just my point of view, I don’t mean to turn this into a polemic discussion:giveup: PS sorry my terrible spelling and,I didn't read all the post ..don't have time:sorry:

oh! yeah I've only seen pics too thanks!

hey! I was wondering where is this pic from: if its a vid could someone give me the link? I've never seen it THANKS:flowers2:

si al final de la peli me quedé -> jajajaj si Mika tenia toda la razón y creo q lo dejo bonito y todo para lo loca q es ...yo pensaba q era más d comedia, no estaba preparada para lo q era:boxed:

*raises hand* died with this one too just wondering...is this pic from a vid? cause I've never seen it

Just read "pro choice" means "pro abortion" that just makes me really sad:tears:

hola chicas! si vale hay q hacer todo lo posible por traerlo espero q pronto agregue más paises de latinoamerica a su gira por acá cuenten conmigo para lo q planeen yo también vi kick asss pero aqui si la dieron en algunos cines ... es heavy!

I just read the column! I don't agree with him in everything he said but I do admire the way he put his words in a very artistic and decent way to such a controvercial topic. Especially because he managed to avoid insults and harsh words to make his point (as many public figures tend to do). No doubt his a true artist On the other hand, I gotta say, catholic schools seem to cause the same efect in everybody. I studied in one for 14 years and all my classmates and friends from other cath schools happened to go throw the same thing. At some point we all rejected what was being presented to us. But I think if you're born in a religous family (as some of you had said) is really hard to completly detach yourself from it. Becuase, we are humans and we can't control everything in this life, so for those mayor moments we wish we could, we turn to religion, it gives (as mika said) a sense of security in something we are completly unable to control. It's like running to your family whenever you have problems eventhough you know they can solve it, is just a feeling of comfort and safety, becasue that's where you come from. Hope to read more columns from Mika, it's wonderful to be able to have a glance of his thoughts. " I disagree with what you say but I will defend to death your right to say it" Voltaire T4P:flowers2:

he looks BEAUTIFUL in this pics he always looks in french interviews ><

aaaw like if his going to throw stars at the fans, it's magical