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I just read this convo, and this is how it went:
someone: poor mika, ben stiller only said a few words about him, and he has not even totally fallen in love with him, he was just being nice instead of fangurling and didn't claim to the world what an awesome guy and artist mika is
someone else: stiller was not nasty, he was nice enough and anyway mika is not that famous, all considered. Stiller told he's talented and handsome, which is still something.
someone: I don't agree with you
someone else: I don't agree with you
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and then there we go, someone is spiraling, moving the convo on a personal passive aggressive level. And that was not Ingrid:
Attempt to stop it:
And one more off topic and personal attack:
I cannot find a single word where Ingrid was "very harsh" as you said. I really don't know in what world you are living in, apparently it's all rainbows and ice cream, compared to the real one. She was being straightforward but totally normal, and yes, you are being oversensitive. Like, a lot. Moreover, YOU were very harsh in the first place, you spiraled and ended up calling her a bully. That is being aggressive for no reason. That would make you a bully in the first place, actually. Making up a boo boo and crying over it, blaming other people and attacking them as if it was their fault, that is a very passive aggressive behavior. That is a twisted way to bully people in the first place.
I agree. As I told, I reall wonder what their life experience is, if they can not even stand such a normal and calm chat like this one. Basically 80% of my talks at work and with people are harsher than what happened here a while ago.
And yes, Yang, you are right, writing on this forum is very difficult at times, cause as soon as someone doesn't talk about mika as a poor helpless gigantic baby, they are accused of being nasty and bully. The only safe way to differ is to talk about nothing, like: "I like blue". " I see, I very much appreciate your taste, but I like yellow better. Please forgive me for that, I love you, let's still be friends despite this huge difference in our opinions. I do not want to hurt anybody with my love for yellow things. Long live to Mika".
Well, no, thanks. Long live to straightforward and funny people who are strong enough to endure a little confrontation. Too bad they are a rare breed, these days.
Wow, interesting, first she said "then I do not want to know what you'll do when someone is genuinely nasty about him", then she said "what the actual hell", and called me stop being "so dramatic", and you feel ok, that's not harsh, because she is "just being straight". Well, I felt being hurt, both times, so I said it out, and responded. And all of the sudden I'm the bad guy. Also, I'm not accusing her being bully because she does not agree with me, I accuse her that because a lot MFCers felt being hurt and she apparently does not think so or know that. If I hurt her feelings, I appologize.
And I dont talk about mika as a poor helpless gigantic baby, it's just as a fan I wish him to be more respected and loved, I know in the world sometimes that's not the thing but I dont see why what is wrong I wished that way. I know some fans like to treat mika down to earth, some fans like to stay over the moon. It doesnt matter, what really confuses me is that the former somehow always feels the need to drag the latter down. Like if we didn't, we should not talk anymore.
Another thing that I've learnt over the years, cause I used to speak straightly over the years and hurted a lot people, is that no matter what your intentions is, if you hurt other people, you need to say sorry or at least stop doing that. If you live in a place that people just saying harsher things and you feel fine, it doesn't mean other people feels fine too, what is that so hard to understand?
Also, if you are soo ok with being straight forward, why you are not ok I am being straight forward and saying my mind out? It's so interesting the double standard here.
Apparently, we all have our standard, what is rude/mean, what is not. Maybe this is the reason we argue. But since you all ready know there are fans scared of you, being hurt by you, why kept doing that? That's not straight forward, that is just bad.
Again, if I was mean to Ingie, I appologize.
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What the actual hell? Can you stop being so dramatic? Ben Stiller said Mika was talented and handsome. I do not see that as disrespecting. Not everybody is going to burst out of their own skin from joy when they hear Mika's name. So np, Ben Stiller was not nasty about Mika and that is why I wonder how you will react when someone is actually mean to Mika.
The film industry is a tough one and reality is, Mika is no Bieber. So when his scene does not add anything, it gets cut. I'm certain Mika is not lying awake at night because of this.
Seriously, I don't get where the temper and anger come from. If you are angry because I don't and won't agree with you, it just doesn't make any sense.
As I said, different people have different opinion. You have your opinion, I have mine. Someone agree with me, someone agree with you.
One more thing, I've looked at some of your posts, and talked to some other MFCers, apparently you have a habit of posting mean post, and being mean to other MFCers, and if they responded to that, you called them oversenstitive or something similar. Maybe you didn't know or didn't mean to, but I am going to point it out to you that what you said was very harsh. Even YOU dont think so, it doesn't mean it's not. And, you can not force other people to agree with you. Stop being a bully!
If you still don't understand. I'm not going to reply to your post anymore, based on the history, it's obviously not a good idea to argue with you.
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thanks for putting the links, this is my YT
I don't know they are your videos! Thank you for uploading these! I laughed so hard when he pointed out that someone was brushing his teeth while watching his gig
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Wow, if you even consider this disrespecting Mika, then I do not want to know what you'll do when someone is genuinely nasty about him.
It's just different people having different opinions about a video, and based on what I heard from other MFCers, I'm not the only one feels that there is something unpleasant the way Ben Stiller talked about mika. Why do you react like I'm a monster?
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http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/flag/China.gifThe Second day of China Tour 2016 !! Shenzhen ! 深圳 !
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MFCer Zel youtuber tanzzl shared these videos.
- My Interpretation
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- We Are Golden
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- Talk About You
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Official photos #17Split Works #12
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Well, imagine doing promo three days in a row, 8 hours a day. How sincere would you sound in the end? I think he was being very nice.
I hope you are right, I really hate the idea that he disrespect mika.
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Why?
He seems really insincere. He was just randomly saying good things. It's like when you ask for recommendation letters, the last thing you want them to say is that you are a nice person.
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I think Shenzhen gig is sold out in the last few minutes
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So I just checked, the gig at February 26 , Shanghai is sold out.
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I think the gig in Shanghai is sold out or almost sold out, cuz I always see people in baidu mika forum trying to buy second-hand tickets.
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Hi Amy, so you can actually order Songbook 1 from amazon.com now, and it's only around $10
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Same here. But I've already downloaded the file.
Let's wait for Hon to come and fix it.Yes, it is so good! I loved it when Mika gave an advice to the contestants. He's so wise.
When watched it live, I was laughing even I had no clues what they were laughing at. And now with the subs, all that laughs make sense.
How to download it? my wifi is sloooww, so I want to download it to watch it
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The first show is finally translated guys ! Here's the link: http://www.screencast.com/t/deDcvOcUHope you enjoy ♥
This is soo good, I've only been watching for 15 mins and I just cant stop smiling, especially when mika said "no danger on my side" and made that face~~
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The first show is finally translated guys ! Here's the link: http://www.screencast.com/t/deDcvOcUHope you enjoy ♥
Thank you sooooo much! This is the best thing happen to me today, even I've already have a wonderful day! But this definitely tops them all!
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So he got tattoos and shaven arms for nothing??
Anyway,someone asked Ben Stiller about Mika,and this is the answer he gave: https://twitter.com/paramountfr/status/693068134782205952 7.gif)
That is really annoying, the way he gave the answer
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So I just see the chat, and I asked him "will tencent stream your performance this time in China?" He said:"No, but someone else will do that!!". yay!!
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Here's the replay!
This is sooo good! I'll definitely join the one in Saturday!
"I'm like a doll, if you push a button in my back my hair will pop", lol...
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MIKA official @mikasounds 16h16 hours ago
monkeying around 
good fortune @ 국립현대미술관 서울관 National Museum of Modern and Contemporary Art,… https://www.instagram.com/p/BBjovt1TiNc/
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Thank you so much Hon, for even consider this! This is going to be very very time consuming!
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i don't want to diminish the important message or the hurt that people have that are being mistreated or bullied. Like I said I hope that the video will help the discussion. i know that this is a message that has to be heard by as many people as possible.
I was expressing my personal feelings about the video and Mika. Not attacking people that feel touched or supported by this song and images. And certainly not critizising Mika because he wants to try to make the world a happier place. But I admit I am critizising his way of doing it. Not because it's wrong but because it doesn't appeal to me (anymore).
I now realize that maybe it was not the right place here to express my feelings. It's a controversial subject and perhaps the discussion here should only be about that and not about my personal appreciation of the video. I support the message fully by the way.
Oh nononono I dont think you are attacking us or anything, and please dont feel like that we are angry at you or we dont like your oppinion. And I kind of understand you that you missed the dark, angry mika, and maybe that's why so many people especially love Promiseland in NPIH. But yeah, he is really happy now, and I guess it's harder and harder for him to do things the old way cuz his emotion has changed.
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Hmm, I have very mixed feelings about this video. It goes well with the song and the message is happy, positive, uplifting, all the things why I loved Mika in the first place. So why do I find it so boring?
I think I miss the darkness that he often talked about. No darkness or hidden meanings in this video, that's for sure.
And a bit too much of charming beautiful "holy" Mika for my taste. (like in his three last video's). It reminds me of the happy messages that Christian gospel groups are spreading around.
I really think it's wonderful that he feels happy and wants to share that happiness with other people. It's beautiful that he dares to be vulnerable and that he's no cynical bystander. I very much respect the choices he is making, his coaching and supporting young artists, his fights agains bullying and discrimination. And I love all the good things he is doing for sick and bullied children and for refugees in Libanon. If there would be more people like him, the world would be a much better place.
But I guess somehow, I miss depth, anger, disappointment, ugliness, flaws, a bit of (dark) humour. It's all so good, so positive, so shiny and fashionable, like a glossy magazine such as Happinezz.
Perhaps I miss some passion, something fascinating and brilliant? The feeling of being surprised by seeing new and unexpected things? A bit less dancing around, a bit more showing pain and raw emotion. Of course I'm happy that uncertainty and negativity don't seem to be a big part of his life at this moment. I don't want him to suffer or to feel bad. I just miss something.
I hope lots of mistreated and bullied children will love this video and find comfort in it. I hope discussions will follow and that this video will really help solving things. I hope I will end up not missing disturbing and darker things anymore but enjoying all the joyful positivity again. I sort of miss the most that that such joyfulness and positive messages are not enough for me anymore.
I think there is a darkness or hidden message in the video, the video doesn't end with everyone smiling and dancing and cheering, it ends up with MIKA knee down in front of a white wall. The effect of bullying will always be there, it will become lighter and less important, but it have shaped who you are and it will never completely go away, and any similar things will bring your feeling back to that situation again. I know this is a positive video in general, but in the end I feel the pain.
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It's so not worth a fight.
Anyway,someone asked Ben Stiller about Mika,and this is the answer he gave: 7.gif)
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Posted · Edited by yang
I know there are worse words out there. I was being called "bitch", "slut", "Your mom is a wh**e, and begging other people to buy her" during middle school, I attempted to suicide once, just jump down my balcony at fifth floor and everything would be over. I may got lucky that few of the bullies went physical to me. But yeah I know how terrible and insulting how words can be.
However, it doesn't mean that the harsh words that are less horrible should be said either, "Oh you think I'm being mean, I could be meaner!" "You think this is harsh, it could be harsher,you big baby!". The logic is simply not right. The words that hurt people less still hurt.
I was so shocked when Ingie first said "I do not want to know what you'll do when someone is genuinely nasty about him". What had just happened? Did I say something wrong? We were talking about Ben Stiller's attitude, why suddenly she began to use "You" and made a direct comment on me? So I said I didn't understand, you made me felt that I would be a monster( when someone is nasty about him).
So yeah, I am not the one to escalate this thing. Even someone don't think that's not a bad comment, not as bad as "bitch","bulls**t", or something else. It is a still an unpleasant comment to me. Even it is not a terrible comment, it is still judging people, and became personal when there is no reason to be.
I think the difference here, is that when things went ugly, I would check myself first, to see if I did something wrong. That is why I talked to other MFCers to ask for a third party opinion yesterday, and that caused my action to stand out to Ingie to tell her she is being mean to me. Maybe based on someone's opinion I am the one overacting, and maybe I am. Howevever, apparently the other side of this argument is not doing the same thing. Instead, it's just " oh, that's nothing, I could do worse to you".