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13 hours ago, peroalessandra said:

According to me living as being dead can mean, trying to give It a positive sense, considering life itself as a gift, despite all the pain It can give you. Living with the idea that the worst thing can happen to you Is death so anything else, even sad and difficult situations, are something you can cope with. So from this point of view everything is wonderful, in the sense that considering life itself as a gift even the smallest things have a great value and, on the other hand, even the saddest things that happen in life are something that you can cope with. I think this point of view is one of a person who has lived a very painful loss (the loss of a mother in this case), so after such a painful loss you feel dead in the sense that you have lost the most precious person you had but at the same time after having passed over such a strong pain you see everything in a different way: bad things become less bad and small good things become wonderful things. I think It Is a feeling that Only people Who have lived a very strong pain can have. Yes, It Is a very strong expression and maybe can be "rude" at the First sight, but i think Mika has given It a deeper meaning

Yeah I interpret it that way too. 

I can connect to this feeling myself because "as long you're alive there is still hope." 

7 minutes ago, Prisca said:

Nothing, you're on the list. Pizza is ok?

It's ok

Are we paying at the restaurant ?

1 minute ago, Prisca said:

Ok, we have place for you.

Could you tell me what I have to do ?

7 minutes ago, Prisca said:

You would also like to come for dinner? I don't know if we can add more people. @Gabry74? Do you want otherwise be put on the waiting list?

Yes please 

I can eat any kind of pizza ( Napoli is my favourite) and sorbet

If  somebody needs to find someone to share rizzotto or pasta it's ok too

I'm drinking still water and no coffee

11 hours ago, Chiara 83 said:

 

 

Tell me if I forgot someone,  of course you have still time to join!

 

Subsequently we will choose the bouquet + the card and I will make the order.

My paypal email address is chiaracanzini@libero.it 

The contribute can be indicatively around 5 € but we don't impose any fixed amount. 

You will be given further details in the next few hours

thanks,

Chiara

 

 

 

Hi , I've just sent my duty

As for the evening meal , I've been so busy lately that I didn't find any time to follow the topic . .....

50 minutes ago, Prisca said:

I don't remember in which thread we talked about a picnic on Sunday afternoon/evening. Do you want to do that or does anyone have another idea in the meantime?

What about a picnic on monday instead ?

As we won't have to queue ....

21 hours ago, pascale_geneva said:

Watching the TIM Music Awards last night I got the impression that the first 4 rows are at the same level as the original first row for which I and other fans have tickets. They are not lower. Never mind! Let’s just enjoy the concert 🎉♥️

I have to admit I rather focused at how people were dressed 

I had a look at the weather forecast for the next week in Verona , they announce  a scale of 10/25 ° C 

I guess we'd better add some  warm and rainjackets in the suitcase ?

40 minutes ago, Anna Ko Kolkowska said:

 

 

I remember in 2020 I was waiting over 30 days for the refund.

That was fast ......

11 minutes ago, holdingyourdrink said:

This happened for the gig that was cancelled in Boston, it was so nice to not have to deal with applying for a refund. 
 

On the other hand, I think this is what they maybe needed to do to give the possibility to convert it into a ticket for Verona…

It was the same back in 2020 when it was not possible to convert anything 

On 9/8/2022 at 1:01 AM, allegra said:

 

- It is not fair that they give only one week to ask the refund and, as Mellody rightly said, in this particular period. If I purchased a ticket for the 29th or 30th of September, I should have the right to have it “valid” (in this case eligible for a refund) untill that date. And it is not fair that the procedure is with a system with bugs. It should be enough to send a request via email, just forwarding the original order without any code, number, password etc etc.

 

 

You're so right !

As the tickets won't be valid for the postponed shows , after the deadline to change the tickets for the Verona concert all the tickets should be automaticaly refounded without even asking for those that were purchased online

1 hour ago, SusanT said:

Thank you @krysadyand @crazyaboutmika for remembering all of us fans who will have to wait a long time to see Mika at a gig.

You're right , that's the worst situation and I hope your patience will be rewarded with an amazing show

27 minutes ago, krysady said:

That's true, I totally understand, this was supposed to be my holiday and I'll be there for one week as well. Now I'm over the first shock and planning to have a lovely time in Italy anyway, I suppose this is the only thing we can do  

 

I'm really sorry for those who can't make it to the Arena show, that's even more upsetting than anything else!

I wish you'll enjoy your holiday

I now have 2 weeks of holiday ahead (that means that I've got only one left until may .....) 

I'm going to visit Verona and go to a tennis tournament during the first one

Don't know about the second one .... probably  should  clean my flat  but probably will find something very important instead 

1 hour ago, krysady said:

  Anyway, I guess Mika also found it unfair if he solved the problem, otherwise he wouldn't care.

 

 

I hope they are not fans otherwise he's going to face another drama if they know that he's responsible  

1 hour ago, krysady said:

 

If people got annoyed and told here their opinion, it's not that someone would blame other fans. People are upset on the messy organization overall, I hope no one see it as fans arguing with other fans. 

 

Now let's focus on the upcoming event and we'll see on that day what's with those extra rows, at that point won't change much the situation and I'm sure Mika fans will have a great time anyway 

 

Don't worry , I understand what you mean and only speak for myself .

For me "loosing" a week of holiday that I won't be able to change is much more upseting than  extra rows . Probably it's not as much a case for people who are more flexible than me on this subject. Everyone has it's priorities .

I guess being used to never get the first row probably helps me a lot not to be too sensitive about this subject 

I'm just trying to remain as realistic as possible and yes , I'm sure we'll have a good time anyway .

23 minutes ago, mellody said:

But Joelle, do you really trust Ticketone (or friendsandpartners) to do anything in favour of fans?  The fact that Mika didn't even know about these seats rather supports the idea that they just wanted to make money out of adding them, maybe they really were for VIPs or so. We won't know, no one tells us anything, so well, I guess there's no reason to start fighting even among fans.

The fact is that we don't know , we only  can guess ....

I agree with Michele , we are all upset because nothing goes the way it was supposed to ....but as long as they don't take our seats to move us behind ,I don't feel like it's such a big issue if the orchestra area is  filled with four lower rows instead of being empty . 

Btw , if they are VIPS , we don't have to worry about them , they'll probably be quiet 

And the fact that Mika didn't know about it may be because he has more important problems in mind 

Reading the last few pages I wonder if it wouldn't  be wise to open a " first row obsession " discussion  along the "post gig depression" topic to try to ease fans trauma 

Seriously .....imagine that @dcdebor @Hero changed their travel's plans and got one of these controversial places ....How do you think they would feel knowing that fellow fans who don't have any extra merit than  just being lucky enough to choose the remaining date asked not only the organisation but Mika himself to remove them from possibly blocking their view ?

Or better ....How would you react if it was you ???

And how can we ask Mika to show empathy to the fans if we are not able to be empathic to each other ?

As @Anna Ko Kolkowskasaid , the distance between our seats and the stage will remain the same with or without these extra rows that are lower and separated by an alley from the first regular row . 

I'm sorry to go against the grain , but this decision is the only one that didn't chock me in the reorganisation's process . 

( the fact that people have to ask for a refund within a very short time being the one I can't understand .... ) 

 If I can count , people on the fifth row will still have more people behind them than in front of them . And you'd probably block more views behind than the people in the orchestra area ......because who ever saw an orchestra blocking the view of the audience ???? 

6 hours ago, SusanT said:

Wonder if Mika will say anything about the postponed tour.

He didn't . Not very surprising because it would not be a very good publicity 

Just sang "underwater" ( not his best performance of this song imo ) and they mentionned the gig in Verona as " closing the summer" 

21 hours ago, mellody said:

Yeah, they'd probably give it some posh French name so they can charge 90€ for it at their restaurant.  Anyway looks like it's made the same way as Pizza, just with different ingredients,

The dough of a good Flammenkuche ( not a very French name btw ....it's an Alsacian  speciality ) isn't the same as the one of pizza 

26 minutes ago, maggie112 said:

Running to the stage from 5th row (or more) could not be a great idea, first rows will already grab the barrier…. 

If the stage is very hight and the barrier closed to the stage the view from there would not be better than from the 5th row imo .... And would be definately unfair to the people sitting in the "buca d'orchestra" to run to the stage and block their views 

I mean , it's not their fault if the organisation is a mess ......and it would not be fair to leave them far behind if they had first row in Roma or Milan 

15 hours ago, Kumazzz said:

 

 

Cooking PIZZA !

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not Pizza , it's a Flammenkuche 

I guess there is no Pizza at " L'auberge de l'Ill" anyway .....

1 minute ago, Hero said:

I'm not sure what that is. 

A pie , I'm sorry ....

A prunes pie , it's delicious !

1 minute ago, Hero said:

Is that a confession?  

I just made a prunes apple btw .....

1 minute ago, Prisca said:

But I think that Serena has enough white paper, she didn't say anything that she doesn't have enough white paper...

I know , but on the picture she shared there are "empty" spaces 

I thought that we could fill these with the smallest hearts

18 hours ago, holdingyourdrink said:

He’s missing and we miss him, worst combination 

Maybe somebody finaly succeded to kidnap him ......

1 hour ago, mellody said:

 

Right?! Not even the Verona theatre, the day before the arena, sold out and literally just a few hundred meters away. That's why the only explanation that makes sense to me is that it must be because he can't get all of his work finished in time if he does this tour - especially the soundtrack, that can't be postponed. It even would explain his absence. I'll keep to that theory, until I find a better one, or he tells us the truth.

I suppose he's got an inssurance to cover the cancellation costs that may be huge enough that he can hardly pay for it on he's own funds.

After all the assurances had to reward because of Covid , I'd be surprised if bad schedule would be enough for them to take all in charge .

@Anna Ko Kolkowska theories seems more realistic to me .

I don't know how the inflation goes in Italie , I doubt that it's going a good way .

I can't deny that this cancellations gives him more time to work on the soundtrack  (and maybe more we don't know about) , but I doubt it's the only reason .

Probably a combination of bad circomstances

Anyway  I would not like to be the responsible of the mess if there are people to blame