southeast Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Yeah, well, our first thread being a complete disaster, I am opening a new one in the hope this one will be better than the last one. Actually Sil should be opening this one, but since she's not that often on MFC these days *sigh*, I'll do it. Why a disaster? 1) No one ever payed me and Sil anything for our shrink services, so we never got that private Mika gig it was all about in the first place. 2) In the meantime Sil has dissapeared, so atm I am working like mad here on MFC. Perhaps I shall put a job offer notice? 3) Also we never managed to cure anyone from their Mikaaddiction, most of the thread members are still lurking around MFC. Except Sil. Perhaps she has cured herself? Perhaps I have cured her? Hey, Sil, what about some payment? For all of you who don't know what this thread is all about: you can check out the last thread: http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23549 Here's the disclaimer from the last thread - please read carefully and don't expect too much from us shrinks: ..because we don`t want to get sued by... Mika fans, parents of Mika fans, Mika family, Mika management, Mika record company, Mika shrink, Mika band, Mika lawyers, Mika puppet, Mika double, Mika boy/girlfriend, Mika dog, not to forget Mika himself Southeast and I - we are totaly nuts. We don`t know anything about Mika`s personality, his habits or why he acts like he acts - though we are real shrinks in real life. I always laugh at other shrinks in real life who think they can say anything about a celebrity´s personality although they never met him or her or talked to him or her . No professional shrink would do that! So....don´t take anything in this thread serious. Although we both are trained psychologists in real life we are here just for fun. We are not able to give you counceling or advice via this messageboard. If you feel you need seriously help with something please consult a professional psychologist/doctor who is near you. Southeast and I were some naughty naughty shrinks spamming the Grumpy-Odd-pic-thread with our elaborated psychological theories about Mika in general, Mikas habit to tell lies (pseudologica phantastica???) and how Mika will be aging (we suggested lotion to prevent wrinkles around his eyes). We also offer therapy for people suffering from Mika addiction and Mika post gig depression, re-programming Justin Bieber Fans and turning them into Mika fans. Why do we offer our services? Because we want to get rich so we can afford a privat Mika gig. Yes...we are nuts. all psychologists are!... So...feel free to lay on our coach and enjoy :-) Services Treatment What if Mika´s toys need treatment? - Learn how to do it in the Psychiatric Clinic for abused toys. http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3008086&postcount=510 Emergency intervention for unexpected gig cancelations http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3043393&postcount=1233 Tests MIKA Addiction Test - Do I suffer from Mika addiction? http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2993207&postcount=15 Mika`s "personality" Neck touching http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/200911/body-language-secrets-the-neck Synaesthesia, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder... http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3068979&postcount=1595 Multiple personality? What if Mika`s personality would split up... http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3050304&postcount=1470 Mika is a tummy sleeper. What does this say about his personality? http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2995757&postcount=151 Mika loves dogs - What does this say about his personality? http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2996373&postcount=193 Mika video analysis - eye movement http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3020565&postcount=715 Science The MIKA post gig depression - explained http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3037020&postcount=1030 Free association What color do YOU think of when you think Mika? http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3028626&postcount=775 What`s in Mika`s bag? - have a guess http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2994330&postcount=87 people think these things are in Mika`s bag: -germicide -lotions -contacts -i-phone charger -sexy men pics -lots of chocolates -his umbilical cord -sanitary towels for yasmine -chewing gum -his five yorkshire terriers -a Fernando wig for bad hair days -tea -jammie dodgers -manly green wallet of course- test tubes to collect smells -a CD of NEO -curler -shaver or wax stripes -water bottle -pic of Lilstar - jelly "Gummi Bear" - ''Dunny d X NY dFunny but odd''-sleeping pills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamy_Queen Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 First! Congrats hun! And it wasn't disaster (except money issue, but we are not going to pay anyway ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychobabble Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 (I think this was already answered in the last thread, but here are my two cents. ) In my opinion, sarcasm is more critical, harsh type of irony. Verbal irony is when you say one thing, but mean the opposite. But sarcasm is more specific because it is usually used to point out a flaw in a person or organization. For example, saying "It sure is a beautiful day today" when it is actually raining, would be an ironic statement." But saying "I'm so glad you forgot your umbrella." is sarcastic because it is pointing out what someone did wrong. However, I don't think sarcasm is always mean. When used among friends it is usually understood that you are joking. Also, this is my first post in this thread, but I love reading all the stuff you guys write! I feel like I'm seeing glimpses of Mika's magnificent mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamy_Queen Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 wow, great job! You gave all the necessary links! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeast Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 wow, great job! You gave all the necessary links! Well, we collected so many really funny and interesting informations in the last one, it would have been a real pity to forget them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeast Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 (I think this was already answered in the last thread, but here are my two cents. )In my opinion, sarcasm is more critical, harsh type of irony. Verbal irony is when you say one thing, but mean the opposite. But sarcasm is more specific because it is usually used to point out a flaw in a person or organization. For example, saying "It sure is a beautiful day today" when it is actually raining, would be an ironic statement." But saying "I'm so glad you forgot your umbrella." is sarcastic because it is pointing out what someone did wrong. However, I don't think sarcasm is always mean. When used among friends it is usually understood that you are joking. Also, this is my first post in this thread, but I love reading all the stuff you guys write! I feel like I'm seeing glimpses of Mika's magnificent mind. Oh, right, that's a good explanation! Thanks! Go on posting here whenever you feel like it! I like your username btw. I really think there should be some smilies for irony or sarcasm, since they really can get misinterpreted so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sienna Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 (I think this was already answered in the last thread, but here are my two cents. )In my opinion, sarcasm is more critical, harsh type of irony. Verbal irony is when you say one thing, but mean the opposite. But sarcasm is more specific because it is usually used to point out a flaw in a person or organization. For example, saying "It sure is a beautiful day today" when it is actually raining, would be an ironic statement." But saying "I'm so glad you forgot your umbrella." is sarcastic because it is pointing out what someone did wrong. However, I don't think sarcasm is always mean. When used among friends it is usually understood that you are joking. Also, this is my first post in this thread, but I love reading all the stuff you guys write! I feel like I'm seeing glimpses of Mika's magnificent mind. Well, let's say for example that Italian people always say I make ironic remarks. Nobody has ever used the word sarcastic to define me. In Italian sarcastic involves bitterness, being nasty. On the other hand irony is seen as positive, something that will make you laugh.A famous Italian writer, Luigi Pirandello, gave a lot of importance to irony in his literary output. I guess YOU could open a new thread, woman. After all you are Sil's partner here. I suggest adding a link to the first part, so that people who are going to join can check what the thread is really about. I was thinking I should try to post something about that which looked like it came from scientific approach but you were faster and it says very much the same. Here is from the dictionary anyway: Sarcastic=witty language used to convey insults or scorn Irony=incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: "the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" or a trope that involves incongruity between what is expected and what occurs Good job with the first post SE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolj5 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 hello again thank you, southeast, for opening the new thread. i would really love another poll, you know why? so i can find the thread much easier because it will be marked with the little poll bars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Clay Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Should you be worried if your dog is your best friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura* Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Congrats, SE! Fantabulous first post for part 2! "Sil has cured herself" is priceless! (I think this was already answered in the last thread, but here are my two cents. )In my opinion, sarcasm is more critical, harsh type of irony. Verbal irony is when you say one thing, but mean the opposite. But sarcasm is more specific because it is usually used to point out a flaw in a person or organization. For example, saying "It sure is a beautiful day today" when it is actually raining, would be an ironic statement." But saying "I'm so glad you forgot your umbrella." is sarcastic because it is pointing out what someone did wrong. However, I don't think sarcasm is always mean. When used among friends it is usually understood that you are joking. Also, this is my first post in this thread, but I love reading all the stuff you guys write! I feel like I'm seeing glimpses of Mika's magnificent mind. Thank you, that was very clear! And welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeast Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Should you be worried if your dog is your best friend? I always thought a dalmatian would be the perfect dog for Mika, white and black, very decorative, short hair, good for walks. For me, a G Retriever is a family dog There you have some clichees again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Clay Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Well, should I be worried that my pets are purely immaginary? Meet DUFFY & WENDY-- . . . strangely reminiscent of . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Clay Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I always thought a dalmatian would be the perfect dog for Mika, white and black, very decorative, short hair, good for walks. For me, a G Retriever is a family dog There you have some clichees again. Some one --close to me-- recently had to remind me: "A dog is NOT a fashion accessory!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura* Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I always thought a dalmatian would be the perfect dog for Mika, white and black, very decorative, short hair, good for walks. For me, a G Retriever is a family dog There you have some clichees again. He could walk him/her while wearing his black and white jacket from the 1955 Tour. Well, should I be worried that my pets are purely immaginary? Perhaps just a tiny bit, Alice. Some one --close to me-- recently had to remind me:"A dog is NOT a fashion accessory!" They should tell Paris Hilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droopsy Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 He could walk him/her while wearing his black and white jacket from the 1955 Tour. Perhaps just a tiny bit, Alice. They should tell Paris Hilton. Very true! They had a 'documentary' about it again last week. How the animal shelters are flooded with chihuahuas etc because apparently people don't know what it actually means to have such a dog Anyways, to one of the previous questions: I love my dog more than anything or anyone else atm But best friend? It's different, it's even more I think, she's like my baby I just love animals. People?... it depends, sometimes not so much Which reminds me of this sweet video I've seen today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeast Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 They should tell Paris Hilton. Very true! They had a 'documentary' about it again last week. How the animal shelters are flooded with chihuahuas etc because apparently people don't know what it actually means to have such a dog Ohhh, don't be so hard on poor Paris. Perhaps she just didn't know it's a dog. I mean, she thought the white powder they found in her bag is chewing gum, so.... Which reminds me of this sweet video I've seen today. This lion is sooo sweet! Cats (in all sizes) are such lovable creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura* Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Ohhh, don't be so hard on poor Paris. Perhaps she just didn't know it's a dog. I mean, she thought the white powder they found in her bag is chewing gum, so.... She also said this once: the cocaine handbag in her car was not hers, but the guy's who was driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Clay Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 . . .Perhaps just a tiny bit, Alice. Staggers off to worry a tiny bit . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeast Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 hello again thank you, southeast, for opening the new thread. i would really love another poll, you know why? so i can find the thread much easier because it will be marked with the little poll bars... You're welcome! I too would love another poll. But atm I don't have a clue what about... Am still searching for a new topic... Staggers off to worry a tiny bit . . . Wow, hey, that's a really good drawing/painting! So expressive! How did you make it - with watercolours? I don't know anything about drawing, so excuse my silly question. She also said this once: the cocaine handbag in her car was not hers, but the guy's who was driving. Yeah, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Clay Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 . . .Wow, hey, that's a really good drawing/painting! So expressive! How did you make it - with watercolours? I don't know anything about drawing, so excuse my silly question. 'Tis nice, but I can accept no credit, 'cause -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeast Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 'Tis nice, but I can accept no credit, 'cause -- Oh! Haha! I am the same, can't draw nor paint so I copy stuff from all around the place.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francoise Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 What a brilliant 1st post Southeast for the 2nd shrink thread.. It made me realize how many funny/ serious discussions I have missed in the previous months .. Anyway, I swear to be more diligent this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeast Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 What a brilliant 1st post Southeast for the 2nd shrink thread.. It made me realize how many funny/ serious discussions I have missed in the previous months .. Anyway, I swear to be more diligent this time Thank you! Stick around! Hey, people. You sure know by now (cause I am ranting about it all the time ) how I hate those stupid journalists who pose Mika the same ridiculous questions over and over again. So I was thinking how would I do an interview with him if I had like 1/2 hour of his precious time. You know, critisizing is one thing, but doing it yourself is not that easy... So I thought I'll copy the "Süddeutsche Zeitung", that's my daily newspaper here in Germany. They have a weekend edition where on the last page there is a big interview with someone interesting. Most of the interviews are very good and every week a different journalist does one. And every interview has one main topic, a different one every time. So, what would be your one topic with Mika? What would be the one most important thing you want to know from/about him? My topic would be: "Image". Cause it's all about image with him. F.e.: How he sees himself, how he thinks people/fans/press/his family see him, what image does he want to transport through his music? Image in pop-music. Is his Mika public image the same as his private one. A beautiful topic I think. You can do so much with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKA'S LOLLIPOP Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 wow second thread love the first!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdeb Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 So, what would be your one topic with Mika? What would be the one most important thing you want to know from/about him? My topic would be: "Image". Cause it's all about image with him. F.e.: How he sees himself, how he thinks people/fans/press/his family see him, what image does he want to transport through his music? Image in pop-music. Is his Mika public image the same as his private one. A beautiful topic I think. You can do so much with it... Being a journalist, I have actually contemplated this question. What would I ask Mika if I had the chance to interview him? Your idea of limiting the questions to one topic is interesting, yet very challenging, since there are so many things I would like to know! But if I had to ask about just one topic? Hmmm... the topic of image is a very good one, to be sure. But since no one likes a copycat, I guess I have to come up with my own idea, right? I'd like to concentrate on his lyrics. Putting on my pseudo-psychologist hat I'd like to know what some of his lyrics actually *mean* -- quite often when he's asked what a particular song means, he'll talk about what *inspired* him to write it. For example, Relax was inspired by the events of 7/7/05, but in no way do I think it's really *about* that day. I'd also like to know how he writes the lyrics -- do the lyrics come first, or does the melody? And why does he so often repeat lyrics in a song, instead of coming up with another verse? Is it for emphasis or just because he doesn't have anything else to add? When he collaborates on a song with someone like Jodi Marr do they contribute more to the lyrics or to the tune or arrangement? I remember he said that Jodi Marr pretty much came up with the second verse of My Interpretation, expressing a point of view that was totally different from his. Also, he often goes for imagery or phrasing that's unusual or unconventional -- Billy Brown has several instances of the latter. Is that intentional or just a random thing? After he's written something like that does he look back and wonder "What was I thinking?" In other words, does he ever go back and analyze his lyrics as much as we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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