elanorelle Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 When I watched MIKA's concert i noticed major references to religious/spirituality that is quite deep and I going to do some research into his symbolism as there is SO MUCH. Tell me what you think and what is going on here. I think there is something subtle going on and I sense it . Do you? Its been bugging me ever since I went to the concert! Things I am wondering about: 1. The Angel coming from the Earth (the Creation Story-The Primordial Egg Story) I think she is Gaia _also could be alluding to Hindu mythology (The cosmic egg): in Hindu tantra, based on the Hindu philosophy of Kashmir Shaivism, the Shri Yantra represents the expansion of the universe from the cosmic egg after its creation by Shiva through the power of Shakti. The cosmic egg is represented by a dot in the center of the Shri Yantra mandala called the bindu./QUOTE] 2. The Day of the Dead /Gray Skelly (please note she was wearing Mardi Gras Beads if you look really close at Gray Skelly in the Concert! 3. "Snow" which MIKA sees above him before he sees Gray Skelly:This is a quote from a website talking about Ray Gonzalez, a poet who is writing of the Day of the Dead Dance (where a man dances with a female skeleton). See what you think: In a series called The History of Desire , based upon photographs and paintings in an exhibit, the "Baile con la Talaca" (Dance with the Skeleton) has the sound of gracefully executed music as befits a dance. The classic Mexican figure of death shows a female skeleton dancing with a "vato," "the king of the streets," who takes her to bed and the next morning sees only dust, "brown and white grains of soil/floating,/still excited in the air." Everyone dances with death ultimately, but the vato courts death by the way he lives" 4. The tree of life and the Serpent: I think there was no coincidence that in the back drop of the concert , there was the tree with the serpent (its from the Kaballah)and 5. The Dove of Peace 6. The Umbrella just a few symbols which have been making me really really think! Its no coincidence that MIKA is sending us a message LIke to hear what you have to think about this! All i know is that he is not doing this randomly and if MIKA can make me get back to church and prayer..then something is going on! Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzy Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hey Hun!!!!!!!! How are you?? I'm fascinated to find out what else you come up with !!! xxoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elanorelle Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hey Hun!!!!!!!!How are you?? I'm fascinated to find out what else you come up with !!! xxoo its really really really exciting that I am noticing sooo many things! wow! found another cool picture of an altar from Mexico for Day of the Dead! thanks kelz! I loves ya! i have never studied comparitive religion formally..rather self taught! will find more stuff I am sure as I go along....as my next topic in another thread will be religion and mythology in his lyrics! smiles , hon! :wub2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzy Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I was thinking alot about spirituality links when I first got the DVD and looked at the booklet.. The Day of the Dead is celebrated all around the world.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead Quite possible little Mica experienced such celebrations as a child *hugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elanorelle Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 I was thinking alot about spirituality links when I first got the DVD and looked at the booklet.. The Day of the Dead is celebrated all around the world.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead Quite possible little Mica experienced such celebrations as a child *hugs* I think so too. might check that out on Nov 2 and 3rd at one of the churches. I might start going to church again...more for spiritual needs rather than religious needs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyGodiva Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 huh, wow there are some similarities. I hadn't really though about them before, but now that you bring it up you've opened my eyes. i'll be o the lookout for more. If those are meant to be there, then i think its nice how he's incorporated so many cultures into his designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackViolet Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I think he just likes going around picking up various cultures' traditions, like the Day of the Dead thing, much like how he likes "stealing" a bit (or is it "referencing"?) from everybody and anybody in his music and in his stage show. Since he comes from a Catholic family, 'course he's familiar with angels and the creation story and what-else not. Being multicultural I'm sure he is also familiar with other traditions. However, I do not think he's elaborately trying to send us some sort of cosmic message. Dead musicians, especially ones with a penchant for reincarnation and delusions of grandeur, are far better for that. --Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazGirl Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 isn't "day of the dead" called "all Saints day" in the UK? as for the serpent tree picture, the colour one, that just looked like the adam and eve story I too made a thread about the symbolism in a picture from Mika's MySpace. I don't think he's doing it to "send a message" as such, I think it's just coincidental and probably also subconscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah_loves_mika Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Suzanne!! would you be willing to sit my Religion/Truth and Spirituality exam for me?!?! You're a genious!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valelia Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 There is a lot of symbolism in Mika's concerts. I think you're right with the angel and the creation story. As for, "Gray Skelly", she might be wearing beads similar to those of Mardi Gras, but in reality that is the traditional attire in Mexico's Day of the Dead. I think that rather than seeing symbolism for the umbrella we should comprehend the actions. The way I see it, at first he is standing there alone and cold, snow is falling, and he seems somewhat afraid. Afraid of possibly death or just possibilities. Then comes death, he faces his fears and shields (covers with hands) him from the snow pouring down on him, he embraces it, and says goodbye or maybe a see you later. I might be looking too into it, but I think the overall message is death, and our fears, maybe even saying goodbye to those we've lost (what we go through when we do). As for the serpent, peace dove, and tree, I think you're right on the mark. Just like to add, that the dove is coming out of a cage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaurora Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 amazing.......thanks for sharing this! There really are some noticable similarities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valelia Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 isn't "day of the dead" called "all Saints day" in the UK? as for the serpent tree picture, the colour one, that just looked like the adam and eve story I too made a thread about the symbolism in a picture from Mika's MySpace. I don't think he's doing it to "send a message" as such, I think it's just coincidental and probably also subconscious. Actually, I don't think you celebrate Day of the Dead at all in the UK. In Latin America, and in the United States, All Saints Day is on Nov. 1rst and Day of the Dead the day after Nov.2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah_loves_mika Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Actually, I don't think you celebrate Day of the Dead at all in the UK. In Latin America, and in the United States, All Saints Day is on Nov. 1rst and Day of the Dead the day after Nov.2nd That's true i think. I'd never heard of the day of the dead until i read this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenie87 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Heya, this thread is really interesting! I mean I know Mika uses alot of symbolism in his work, but some symbols I never really understood like the Day of the Dead. It's an interesting concept! So thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Weather Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 There is a lot of symbolism in Mika's concerts. I think you're right with the angel and the creation story. As for, "Gray Skelly", she might be wearing beads similar to those of Mardi Gras, but in reality that is the traditional attire in Mexico's Day of the Dead. I think that rather than seeing symbolism for the umbrella we should comprehend the actions. The way I see it, at first he is standing there alone and cold, snow is falling, and he seems somewhat afraid. Afraid of possibly death or just possibilities. Then comes death, he faces his fears and shields (covers with hands) him from the snow pouring down on him, he embraces it, and says goodbye or maybe a see you later. I might be looking too into it, but I think the overall message is death, and our fears, maybe even saying goodbye to those we've lost (what we go through when we do). As for the serpent, peace dove, and tree, I think you're right on the mark. Just like to add, that the dove is coming out of a cage. I really LOVE your take on it!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 isn't "day of the dead" called "all Saints day" in the UK? Nope. 'All Saints Day' is mostly celebrated in the Catholic/Anglican church on November 1st, to honor all the saints in Heaven. 'All Soul's Day' is celebrated on November 2nd, and it's to pray for all the souls of the faithfully departed. 'Day of the Dead' is basically the same thing as 'All Soul's Day' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickylovesmika Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Holy Johnny is obvious but it did make me think about religious themes and then i thought of another song too ...sorry my head is in the clouds just now with the backstage party news but i'll give it more thought and come back to it..... i love this though! i like your thoughts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgpm Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 All Saint's day is Nov. 1 and All Soul's day is Nov. 2. These are feast days in the Roman Catholic Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika is my hero Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I was just wondering about some of these things today!! I knew Mika said he grew up a good catholic boy, but I wondered if he was still religious or spiritual. And I noticed a while back that in "Live in Cartoon Motion" during the "Long Way From Home segment, in Chapter 4, at 38:12 there is a picture of Jesus from the movie "Jesus of Nazareth". And it scares me every single time I see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elanorelle Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 I was just wondering about some of these things today!! I knew Mika said he grew up a good catholic boy, but I wondered if he was still religious or spiritual. And I noticed a while back that in "Live in Cartoon Motion" during the "Long Way From Home segment, in Chapter 4, at 38:12 there is a picture of Jesus from the movie "Jesus of Nazareth". And it scares me every single time I see it! oh ! you saw that too!??? did you see also there was an interview on that too with a hindu goddess in the back ground???? have you guys really read the lyrics to How Much Do you love Me? do you notice something very spiritual there? I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I was just wondering about some of these things today!! I knew Mika said he grew up a good catholic boy, but I wondered if he was still religious or spiritual. And I noticed a while back that in "Live in Cartoon Motion" during the "Long Way From Home segment, in Chapter 4, at 38:12 there is a picture of Jesus from the movie "Jesus of Nazareth". And it scares me every single time I see it! *stares suspiciously* ... *runs to DVD player to look* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika is my hero Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 oh ! you saw that too!??? did you see also there was an interview on that too with a hindu goddess in the back ground???? have you guys really read the lyrics to How Much Do you love Me? do you notice something very spiritual there? I do! So I'm not the only one who's seen Jesus in the Mika dvd!? Yes! I thought i was going crazy for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hah. I was just reading an article about 'All Soul's Day', and it said "Day of the Dead: somethingsomething Lebanon" anyway. I'm sure you've also noticed that he crossed himself on the DVD, and he wears rosaries. Of course, why would he wear them... they're not exactly jewelry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Mikaboo~ Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Very facinating i love stuff like that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valelia Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I really LOVE your take on it!!!!!!!! Thank you! I just feel there is more meaning in his actions than we realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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