mellody Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 sariflor, from my point of view you don't have to defend yourself for saying that. i wasn't in paris, so i can't compare it, but it certainly can't hurt if mika knows that some of us like the "normal" shows more than such huge things - even if it meant a lot to him personally - but we might think differently about it! for me, i chose right from the start to go to amsterdam instead of paris, cause i prefer a 15.000 ppl venue to a 50.000 ppl one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAK1 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I was going to make a good report but I think that it will have to wait now, until I have posted this long thing trying to defend myself . I have read the posts about the "much better than Paris!" shout in the video earlier. It was me saying that. And before anyone jumps at my throat, let me tell you that I don't think that I did anything wrong . If you watch the video again, you will notice that the person who Mika is speaking to at the moment says to him at the end: "even better than Paris". I was sitting right there, next to where they were standing (obviously, as you can see from how the video is taken) and heard it. I just had to agree and say it. Here is the vid: http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=38035863 Many of you may disagree with that, and it's your right to do so as much as it's my right to think that it's not a big deal. I really have to disagree with people saying that it's impolite, or "like kicking his ass". To me, it's just a spontaneous reaction giving him an opinion, mine. That's all it is. I am not even trying to convince anyone, least of all Mika, that this gig was fantastic and that Paris was crap, because this is not what I think. All I did was express my views on how this gig compared to Paris for me, as a fan, as an audience member, because this is what I believe in: providing feedback. If I was an artist, I would appreciate all kinds of feedback, good and not so good. Or ideas, or suggestions, etc, etc. In fact Mika has proved to be quite open to hearing opinions so far, and sometimes seemingly reacted to it, so I don't see why it's such a problem. I never said this intending to disrespect him, or to bash him and his Paris gig. In actual fact, I had already given him good feedback for the Paris gig, and had told him that I was happy that I had gone to it and been a part of it, witnessing it first hand. In the same way that I give him good feedback, and everyone finds that the most natural thing in the world, I reserve the right to give him not so positive feedback as well, because I think that I have never done it in a disrispectful way. And believe me, of all the times I have spoken or communicated with Mika, I must have given a balance of 90% good and 10% bad. Being a fan doesn't mean that one should only kiss the ground on which the artist walks; What good is that? Thinking that Mika (or anyone) is infallible and perfect, hence everything he does is as well, just seems very surreal and quite irrational to me. It's obvious that I love him, or I wouldn't be following him around the world spending all my cash on his gigs, buying his things, and spending time on his fanclub. I just reserve the right to be critical, and voice it when he does things that I don't like. I would also like to add that, even though some of you may not believe it, I am actually quite a decent person and one of those people who always worry about upsetting people, and that tries to be polite and respectful in all occasions. Hence why I always end up not speaking to Mika when there are tons of pushy others, and only get my chance when people behave or there is a clear, organised system (like in Amsterdam). Basically, I'm trying to say (and I hope that the MFC'ers who I have met in person can see that) I am not a nasty person, who goes around bashing people and trying to upset them. Maybe sometimes I can get carried away, and just blurt my thoughts out as they are formed, and often too loud, but I can guarantee that it's not done in a mean way (Except for when someone is attacking me so that is obviously different). I just like to give my opinions when I think they can be given, that's all. And as I had already given Mika the "good points" of Paris, I saw the chance her to comment on the difference between these 2 gigs. Because believe me, there was a HUGE difference for me. For starters, in Paris I could not see a thing (unless I looked at the screens) for 80 or 90 percent of the time, which is when he was on the main stage. Then, when he came to the catwalk, it was good, but very short. And for me, I much prefer a smaller show where I just see Mika, than a big production with lots of other acts, as in backup singers, performers, circus people or whatever. And this my friends, is all I was trying to express with that comment. I wasn't saying "Mika, Paris was crap", or "you are crap". Come on, there IS a difference . I must say I agree with you. When we were waiting to get into the M&G, Niki started to do her video blog and asked us for messages to put onit, and I mentioned that I thought that Amsterdam was better than Paris. I have even sent Mika a message on Myspace saying the same thing and explaining my reasons. He knows I'll follow him anywhere, but he also knows that I'll be critical, even if he doesn't take me seriously. 5 mins???????????????????????????:roftl: You mean you are an adult the rest of the time??????????//// Okay you got me I'm a big kid ALL the time.LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 ok. i wasnt there the last 2 days and there is like 86 pages... so it would be very nice if someone could just sum up by answering my questions - what was the surprise? - is there a new video or a new mp3 of rain? - did he sing i just cant get enough or another cover? - did he joke (tried to?) - is greta back? - did anyone visit the mini theatre museum? thanks i think the surprise was a short video message for the mfc... but i don't know the link now, sorry... he sang i just can't get enough. there are several videos of rain, mine's here: and other videos i copied from the thread into a text file: Rain (complete) http://www.dailymotion.com/niki27mfc...msterdam_music LT drum solo: http://www.dailymotion.com/niki27mfc...mov00585_music I just can't get enough (complete) Big Girl (Full) Rain (full) Here's the latest, My Interpretation with Mika and his piano lessons http://www.dailymotion.com/niki27mfc...msterdam_music stuck in the middle http://www.dailymotion.com/niki27mfc...d-amster_music My Interpretation: Just Can't Get Enough: Rain (good quality): Relax (if you dare .. if you like bouncing ) http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ujbgHaSpFfA Holy Johnny http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=XTg_miLLHjM Just Can't Get Enough http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=SV2fiwEIedw Relax (really bouncy..) http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ujbgHaSpFfA Holy Johnny http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=XTg_miLLHjM Just Can't Get Enough http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=SV2fiwEIedw Happy Ending http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=9gJwR5x1a4E Love Today http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=flScWM_NWo8 Rain (don't look, just listen ) http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqGR7e7MRA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ircazo Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 hey ircazo, seems like sariflor banned the moment of the drama conversation on video: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=38112260 i just noticed that he even went back to the girl to take the picture with her AGAIN. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ioana Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Ivan... great idea! he treated me better than...well...you know. I do ,I do.... Let us find Ivan then! How do we do that? I love this Ingie - Ioana moment :lmfao: :lmfao See,I almost feel sorry for her One sec later and I would have had the same face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 aww violetsky, thanx for the pix! didn't have a pic of my costume so far. btw, it was a bit improvised, actually it was meant for hot sunny weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ircazo Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I do ,I do.... Let us find Ivan then! How do we do that? call the hotel! they have his adress. and, yeah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegPL Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 ok. i wasnt there the last 2 days and there is like 86 pages... so it would be very nice if someone could just sum up by answering my questions - what was the surprise? - is there a new video or a new mp3 of rain? - did he sing i just cant get enough or another cover? - did he joke (tried to?) - is greta back? - did anyone visit the mini theatre museum? thanks -I dunno -prolly hundreds of them -Just can't get enough -yup. false start SITM 3 times LOL (was it SITM? I can't remember xD I was focusing on "sth" else LMFAO) -she had her flight early in the morning today -not me. sure LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 i just noticed that he even went back to the girl to take the picture with her AGAIN. WTF? that's what i said some pages ago: obviously it didn't work the first time, maybe turned out blurry or sth like this, so he did it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessa Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 i just noticed that he even went back to the girl to take the picture with her AGAIN. WTF? Yeah he took about 3 pics with her ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ircazo Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 that's what i said some pages ago: obviously it didn't work the first time, maybe turned out blurry or sth like this, so he did it again. my mind turned out blurry too...i need a strong drink now! Yeah he took about 3 pics with her ! yay, what can we say...i think everything has been said about this...hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violetsky Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Some more pics from before the gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violetsky Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 aww violetsky, thanx for the pix! didn't have a pic of my costume so far. btw, it was a bit improvised, actually it was meant for hot sunny weather. really? I really loved the costume I had to make a picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfs_cry Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 that's what i said some pages ago: obviously it didn't work the first time, maybe turned out blurry or sth like this, so he did it again. no what hapened was they couldnt get the camera to work cause i heard him say "oh so you have it working now do you?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAK1 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 -I dunno-prolly hundreds of them -Just can't get enough -yup. false start SITM 3 times LOL (was it SITM? I can't remember xD I was focusing on "sth" else LMFAO) -she had her flight early in the morning today -not me. sure LOL Nope, it was My Interpretation:wink2:. that's what i said some pages ago: obviously it didn't work the first time, maybe turned out blurry or sth like this, so he did it again. I think the lighting in there was playing havoc with the cameras. I tried 7 TIMES to take a picture of Saraflor, getting closer and closer 'til I was nearly in her face, and they were all blurry. Yet the pic I took of Ioanas foot was perfectly clear:blink:! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfs_cry Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 that was sooooo funny with your camera and you shunning me away when i offered to help you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegPL Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Nope, it was My Interpretation:wink2:. I think the lighting in there was playing havoc with the cameras. I tried 7 TIMES to take a picture of Saraflor, getting closer and closer 'til I was nearly in her face, and they were all blurry. Yet the pic I took of Ioanas foot was perfectly clear:blink:! HAHA you see... even that I was screaming t him "FOCUS MIKA....FOCUS... I KNOW YOU CAN DO THIS" LOL I didn't paying attention to him hahaha that's 'cuz Joana's foot is very photogenic *no offence sari LOL btw...where is my love letter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ircazo Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Ioana & myself with Vanessa & Ioana at the train station, filming people passing by while playing the Mika-laughter-ringtone: chicken restaurant next to sexshop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ioana Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 hahaha that's 'cuz Joana's foot is very photogenic *no offence sari LOL btw...where is my love letter? It's a trained professional dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessa Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 yay, what can we say...i think everything has been said about this...hmmm. Next time you will need to come in a wheelchair ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfs_cry Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 that wouldnt be a hash pop there was it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegPL Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Ioana & myself with Vanessa & Ioana at the train station, filming people passing by while playing the Mika-laughter-ringtone: chicken restaurant next to sexshop: hahahaha brilliant! violet took a pic of that chicken sex-shop as well!! show them V! HAHAHA great minds think alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ircazo Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Next time you will need to come in a wheelchair ! yes...sad but true. hahahaha brilliant! violet took a pic of that chicken sex-shop as well!! show them V! HAHAHA great minds think alike you went strolling in the red light district too? well done, girls! Vanessa & the mysterious flying marihuana-lollipop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Travers Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 thank you Mellody and MegPl ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 well, what i meant was just that he could as well have taken a pic with ircazo in the meantime, while they got their camera to work, or whatever they were doing. i must admit that i also would've been quite disappointed if i had asked him for a pic and he had said no - because i would only ask if i saw he was taking pix with others, which in this case he did. but well, we discussed this already, and after all, we can be happy that we got the - quite well organized - meet+greet at all... and you can find a hair in every soup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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