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Sorry, I have one more not too happy story. One of my classmates, a very kind, helpful, and friendly girl was bullied too by my other classmates. The reason was totally insane (not that there is any sane reasons to do something like that to anyone). It was her taste. In that period everybody was listening to very hard, metal music, Marilyn Manson, Metallica, Nirvana, stuff like that, because in that period it was considered to be cool in my class. By the way I despise these fashion-fans very much , I think some of them didn't even know where the name "Nirvana" came from, but they only wanted what everybody else said that they should wanted. So, this girl didn't like this kind of music, but she was a fan of a Hungarian singer, who had a very diffenent style. It was their reason for the bullying. And the most cruel thing ever: when this Hungarian singer died (they say he commited a suicide), my classmates were teasing this girl to tears every single day by saying distasteful things about her idol. Now if you are a real Mika fan... oh, no, I don't even want to write a comparison like that... so, but if you are a real fan of anyone, you can imagine how it must have felt for her.

I was pretty much of an outcast in my school, but fortunately it ended, I finished school. But I still have some really painful memories. I just hated those years, they were almost unbearable for me I mean slowly I'm getting over it, I'm moving on, I have my life, but I believe that part of my life effected my self-confidence, my ego, and my emotions in a not too healthy way. I think this outcast-thing, if it's really serious, doesn't make your personality develop in the best way, it can make a lot of demage. It was because of my strange interests (I mean they found it strange). I was (and I am) into writing and into literature and into languages very much, and they couldn't take it in. They treated me as if I was a geek, and never tried to understand that strange, ridiculous girl. Usually I'm pretty shy and introverted, I don't make friends too easily, I suppose it made my situation even worse. I mean they thought that I was big-headed or something, while I was just terribly shy. And the worst part was because of a disease, what is really-really unfair. Of course I didn't choose this disease, neither I could help it, it is something you have to learn how to live with. I don't want to go into this too much, it's just too private, but believe me, people can be really very cruel. I know it sounds like a banality, but some people truly can not accept if someone is different (in any way).

LOL, sorry, but I really can't be poetic about my very first Mika-experience. My very first reaction and opinion wasn't too poetic My story is: I was sitting in my office working hard, while the tv was on (due to my colleagues). The choosing of the tv channel was totally random (it was MTV), but suddenly they started to broadcast Mika's Grace Kelly video. I hated it for the first. Literally hated it. I haven't heard about Mika before, but in that minutes I hated everything about him that now I just love. I found him and the music terribly irritating and ridiculous. I wasn't interested in him at all, I couldn't even remember his name Then, a few days later I saw that video again (randomly and not willingly again), and somehow the song stuck in my head. I still didn't like it that much, but I couldn't help it, it was so catchy and impossible to ignore. It was so alive, so vivid, so euphoric... So I surfed on the internet to get some more info on him, and I realized all his other songs... and now here I am: an enthusiastic MFC-member, who adores Mika, appreciates his music , his work, his talent , his art, his style, his intelligance , his humour, his crazyness , his looks ... yeah, I stop now, everybody knows what I mean.

LOL, honestly at first the title of this thread confused me a bit! I mean for me it's like this: What would you listen beside Mika? (I'm next to Mika, I'm with him, and we are listening to something together... however I fancy this idea ) What would you listen besides Mika? (I listen to something else apart from Mika.) Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, apart from Mika I like: Andrew Lloyd Webber's musicals (especially The Phantom of the Opera) Johann Sebastian Bach (especially organ-music) Queen and Freddie Mercury (literally everything) U2 Nightwish Apocaliptica Robbie Williams (sometimes) Cranberries some religious church-music ERA + random stuff from the radio, from the internet, or from friends

I think yes, Mika WILL change, and he IS changing during his career and his life. Just like all of us. Just like everybody else. Changing is absolutely normal and a human thing, there's nothing wrong about it. You don't remain the same all thruogh your life: you change your opinions, tastes, sometimes you regret things from your past, you have new goals and wishes... It would be really boring and disappointing to think that Mika is standing somewhere, and he will never step foreward (even if it seems for the first sight that he steps backwards). He is not perfect, but he don't have to be perfect, because he is a human. Besides I consider him as one of the most intelligent and talented artists in a long time, I'm sure he will have his mistakes, but I like how he dares to be a normal human being so far besides the whole stardom. Anyway, I think I could already realize a few, very slight changes about him in the past few months. He changed in a good way, but he's clearly much more self-confident More confident in his interviews, during his concerts, while posing for the camera... He always says that it happened to him way too quickly, and I believe him that he really feels so, but I have the feeling that he is starting to be familiar with his new, faster, crazy life; and kind of starting to feel himself home in this new world. Good for him!

Gosh, I hope this decreasing obsession doesn't have anything to do with watching him live on a concert. Of course I don't mean that he is not amazing live, I only mean that you are wainting for it for long-long months, you are preparing, you make gifts for him and plan what to wear... and when finally the big day comes, afterall it's only an hour or so. A superb hour, but afterwards you might fell kinda empty, missing him, and wondering when he will come to your city again. But anyway, fortunately (or unfortunately?) I haven't got any similar problems, because Mika cancelled his concert here in Hungary Poor me!!! But back to the topic, the intensity of my obsession isn't decreasing at all yet, moreover it's more and more crazy! I mean I do have a life besides this forum (yeah, I'm not a big poster), and besides Mika's wonderful world. I have a sweet boyfriend , I have to study, I have my friends, I'm enjoying the summer and planning my holidays... and yes, I listen to a lot of other music. (Andrew Lloyd Webber, Johann Sebastian Bach, Carl Orff, U2, Nightwish, Queen, Apocaliptica, Robbie Williams, sometimes even religious church music... I know, a have a bit eclectic taste.) But it's absolutely ok, and since I know Mika he is my very number 1 favourite But once Mika said that he himself is afraid of meeting his idols personally, because he doesn't want to ruin the imaginary icon in his head. Now I can understand it. I mean one thing I really love about Mika that he is not afraid of remaining a human besides the whole stardom, but I wouldn't like to meet him (or any of my idols) to find out that actually he never stops smoking backstage, or he is talking in a rude or impolite way with the others... From all your concert-goers' posts I know he's not like that, these were just examples... Anyone got what I'm trying to say?

Yayyy...!!! I found it so very funny! LOL!!! Congrats really, even if the original idea wasn't yours. And if anyone would like to kill you for this (what I seriously doubt), just call out for me, I will save you! I especially loved these parts: "The best way to attract the Mika is to leave a microphone and a piano with a stool out (ensure the piano and stool are on wheels, you will learn why later) out in a large, open brightly lit area, you may want to engage the use of teddy bear picnics, glitter and balloons. A stage is most preferable for this set up. (...) If the microphone fails, try a trail of lollipops, a tamagotchi...or a Coati." "Try not to make sudden movements or the protective creatures around him might take a dive on you and flatten you. You will recognise these creatures as they are often labelled so they don't forget their species; 'Security'. Do not mess with these creatures as they are highly protective of the Mika."

I'm not sure if I'm happy about their singing together, I'm not such a big fan of Madonna. But yes, I had the same idea, this crazy image in my head about how they would look like together on stage. LOLL... No offense here, but Madonna isn't really a young, innocent-looking girl; while Mika always looks so sweet and young and innocent and childish (Yes, Mika, childish and innocent! You can take off your shirt whenever your want to, you can sweat and tease and play with your braces; yet you remain the adorable childish and innocent-looking boy! Fortunately.)

Yes, I totally agree with you! I mean sometimes pupils are cruel to each other. I don't say that it's Ok, I don't say that I can accept it, I don't say that this problem shouldn't be solved in schools someway, but we all know well that it happens. But teachers:blink: ...??!! I find it very-very distasteful and immoral. I think teachers should help bullied pupils to get back their self-confidence, and they should try to solve the problem, not that they make the situation even worse. Teachers have a very big responsibility. It's not just a job, they have to have a calling. They have to be professional about their lessons and their knowledge, but also they have to love children and treat them equally good. It must'n (shouldn't) effect their work and calling if one of their pupils is black or gypsy or lebanese, or fat, wearing glasses, being muslim, having spots, wearing strange clothes or anything like that. Anyway, I don't want it to sound like an agressive revenge, but I honestly hope that Mika's teacher read that article. I wonder how does it feel for her to look back on the past what she had done, and now looking at this brave, famous, talented, intelligent, unique and intelligent star. I suppose it just makes people think.

Aww, and one more interesting thing about the whole damn gay-topic: I live in Hungary, and Mika is not so famous here like in the UK, I mean I don't know anybody here who have heard about Mika. (Of course apart from the few Hungarian MFCers on this website, and the ones who know Mika because I educated them.) So, this girl I know, she has never heard about Mika before, but I showed her his songs, and now she is completely in love! She is always listening to Mika's music, sings Love Today loudly in the bathroom and stuff like that. She also searched for some photos of Mika, and she finds him very sweet. And here comes the interesting part: She has no internet, and she doesn't speak English, so she always gets her Mika news from me. And guess what: when I talked to her about the discussion of Mika's sexuality, she literally didn't want to believe me. I mean she wasn't manipulated yet by all the articles and interviews and hate sites that we all know, and she never had the idea of Mika being gay. She couldn't imagine that some people think he is gay, she found him sweet and handsome and very-very attractive. Ok, my conclusion of course isn't that I know anything about Mika's sexuality (or about his not being gay), I just wanted to show you that we shouldn't let the media manipulate our opinions, because they have a too big effect on the people.

Originally Posted by BathtubsAndIcecream: "I hate how every time I ask a new friend if they like Mika, they always reply with a "y'know he's gay, don't you?" Pfff...! I think I would ask back: "No, I don't, because he has never talked talked about it in any interview, and nowhere. When did he told you?" or: "No, I don't, but what the hell does it have to do with his music?" or in my crazy/naughty mood: "No, usually we have more interesting topics to talk about." (We = Mika & me... yeah, unfortunately only a day dream )

Mika is absolutely my hero too! His music always makes me so happy, and it makes me smile! I don't want to sound gushy or ridiculous, but he really made my life happier! And I mean it seriously. For example this one happened to me several times: I am sitting on a crowded bus, I'm tired, I'm hot, everybody else is like me on the bus... and then I start to listen to Mika's music on my ipod, and literally in the next second I have to force myself and fight back laughing hearing the "Hips don't lie" cover, because it's so funny and cute. Sometimes it also happened that I didn't manage to fight back my laughter. Well... I don't consider myself as a lunatic, but I'm sure that all the others on the bus were convinced that I am one. I don't know... Mika has this unbelieveable power to get you out of reality, to make you forget about the world and your problems, and to force you to be happy and enjoy your life. Sorry, it's getting too long again, but my last reason is: His unique and individual personality. I might sound silly, since basically every personality has to be individual, but I don't think so. They should be, but they aren't, because they don't dare to. I see people wearing uniforms. I see metal lovers with black clothes, punks with thier distasteful hair, skater boys, r n b fans, expensive brand loving girls... And of course I don't mean only their clothes, but they all listen to the same music, all talk the same way, all do the same things... And they are all like: "Hey, I am very cool, because I dare to be myself!" They say it because after a time they start to believe that this is what they want, this is what they like, they manage to convince themselves. And after a time they really don't realize that they are wearing uniforms. So, yep, my last reason is really gushy, but somehow I feel that Mika can do something against this situation, something to wake up all those people, or at least show the others that it's not so moldy and pathetic to refuse the uniforms, but a brave thing and a fun to do!

If Mika was a close friend of mine... Hmmm, first of all what does a "close friend" mean? A very good friend or a boyfriend? Ok, I suppose it's a very good friend for me. Having Mika as a boyfriend is a pretty delicious idea but it's really just an idea, moreover I already have a sweet-sweet boyfriend. So... I'm sure I wouldn't put posters on my wall (by the way I don't do it even in reality either), or save pictures from the internet. I think we would have our own photos taken together private, far from concerts and interviews and stuff. And I guess we would have great times together having fun, and spending much time together. (He is always very intelligent and protective while being asked about his private life, I guess family and friends and love life is very important for him. He respects enough himself and the people he loves to take care of their relationships.) But anyway I can't really imagine our friendship, since I don't know him. I would like to, but I don't. But I think I am very different from him in a lot of aspects of life, so I guess our friendship would be a bit strange or silly. I mean I honestly respect him, appreciate his work, and find him an incredibly intellingent and bright, charming and cute boy... yet we would make each other go crazy from time to time

Very true! LOL, you remind me someone saying: "Why don't you like me, why don't you like me whithout making me try?!"

Gosh!!! This video is super naughty!!! I started to wonder who is more naughty: the person who made it or Mika? ... and of course very soon I came to the conclusion: it's MIKA

So... since I read the "Grace Kelly most irritating" and the "Grace Kelly Annoying" threads, I started to wonder What is it that some people find irritating and don't like about Mika's music (and not only about Grace Kelly). Don't get me wrong, it's not a joke or a kind of sarcasm. Personally I am in love with his music, but I really seriously would like to understand those people's reasons. I don't want to start a rude debate, but I would like to ask them to share their opinions and explain their reasons. I think it could be pretty thought-provoking. Ok, I start: As I said before, I go crazy for Mika's music, but for example my boyfriend doesn't. I mean he would never say rude or unfair things about him, but he doesn't like his music. He explained his opinion to me. He said he finds it irritating that Mika changes his tone in his songs very often. I mean for example in Love Today or in Grace Kelly his voice is extraordinary high, and in the next moment it's deep and manly and rocky. My boyfreind says that Mika's high voice itself wouldn't irritate him at all because he finds Mika talented, but these huge, too often changes are too much for him. I have to add that personally I don't mind this about his songs (I love it), but it is a point of view too, and I can get what my boyfriend was trying to say. P.S.: Please note, I'm looking forward to a discussion with reasons and explanations, and not replies like "Mika is perfect I don't understand how can anyone not love him" or "Mika is rubbish".

There's already a very similar thread called "Grace Kelly most irritating", but anyway I don't know if you are talking about the same list, or there are 2 lists of irritating/annoying songs. But I think these people don't have ears (nor heart and sense of humour). In my opinion, Grace Kelly is an incredible, euphoric masterpiece With it's self-defining tone and with it's effect on his career, I always thought that Grace Kelly is Mika's ars poetica, just like Bohemian Rhapsody was the one for Freddie Mercury. (Sorry, I hope everyone understands the expression "ars poetica", I couldn't find the proper word for it in English.)

LOL... Sorry, but everybody's so funny. Don't get me wrong, please, please, but I was reading through this thread (and some other threads), and everybody said he was like Mika. I mean I just can't believe that every single MFC member always, in every situation speak their minds too loudly and too honestly. I mean if I had done so, I would have always been failed on my exams, got the boot at my working place, become hated even by my parents, or got arrested ... I mean everytime Mika says something, everybody on the forum is like: Wow! I collect toys too! Hey! I'm childish too! Nor I can keep my mouth shut! or: I know I haven't said before, but I love boys wearing glasses! ...I hope you get what I'm trying to say. I find these reactions totally understandable, yet a bit suspicious. For example as I imagine, in a lot of aspects of life I'm totally the opposite of Mika. LOL, if we were friends, I think a lot of times we would make each other go crazy I don't match him. He matches me. (His music, his dancing, his looks, his interviews, his style, everything about him that make me smile every day.) Anyway, back to topic: My problem is that I always keep my mouth shut. Usually I'm too shy, silent and polite to tell someone off or to tell my own opinion. Honestly I'm too extrovert. And of course at the end of the day, when I get home after a horrible day, I'm unbearable to my boyfriend, and poor boy doesn't understand what is my problem with him, but since I can't tell the bus driver, my boss, or my mother where to go, I'm unfair with him. Yeah, this is not the solution, I will try to change it.

I think Grace Kelly is an incredible, euphoric masterpiece Somehow I always thought that with this self-defining tone and this effect on his career Grace Kelly is Mika's ars poetica, just like times ago Bohemian Rhapsody was the one for Freddie. (Sorry, I hope you understand the expression "ars poetica", I just couldn't find the right word for it in English.) But anyway, I can imagine some people being irritated by his words, for example the ones who recognize themselves hearing the lines: "You only want what everybody else says you should want!" "Why don't you like me? Why don't you like me? Why don't you like yourself?!" Really, I suppose a realization like this must be very painful, but even more useful.

Thanks to everyone who already did or will share his/her own opinion! I'm happy to see that my "middle finger up" message is kinda in vain: I guess no member of MFC is like that, and even noboy like that is a reader of our forum. About my other message: I still seriously doubt that Mika would ever read it, but let's give it a chance, anyway, who knows? And "why not"? Plus I hope he can feel all his fans' loving and know their opinion without my post too. To Droopsy: Yeah, I absolutely get your point when you say you didn't even think about the possibility that he's gay, neither about the possibility he's not. The same about me. When I think of him, I think of his music, his lyrics, his unique and individual personality , the childish (I mean in a good, loveable way) and silly yet sensitive and meaningful messages of his songs, his hot looks ... but I didn't really had the realization that I should wonder about his sexuality till these insane press breakouts. It's not my business, and it has nothing to do with the reasons why I love him so much. To elizabethlovesmika: Let me not to say my opinion about your brother, because I respect all your family because of you, and I don't want to end up hurting you. As I already said, I'm not a rude person, but besides beign silent I have my opinions. About hate clubs: I myself deeply despise those people too. I mean there are a lot of persons who I dislike (or even hate), but I wouldn't take the time, the energy, the work and all the bad emotions to create a club like that. Ok, I can hate anyone I want, because this is my right, but I feel I have to let the others have their own rights too, for example to love somebody. One of the best things about the world is that we are all different with different tastes and opinions. This is why life is not boring. Noone can force you to agree with someone's thoughts, but you should respect them. Moreover as I imagine, their hate for Mika makes them angry, sad, pityful persons living in their own dark world, while Mika keeps on "Doom da da di da di Doom da da di da di..."

Hey, everyone! I know that there are already several threads about this topic like the "we don't care" society and the "Mika gets death threats", and etc, but... today I got so angry about it that I felt I had to tell my own opinion. Sorry, I know it's maybe a too loud way to start a new thread just to say my opinion, but forums are for this, aren't they? So... Mika's sexuality has been a very popular topic for a long time in press, in several articles on the internet, in interviews, and even on MFC website. Ok, I can understand that people are curious, I am a human too, but from a point it's just disgusting and abnormal. It's not a healthy behaviour. Most recently I read a lot about people who despise him for not telling the truth honestly to the public about his sexuality (wether he's gay or not). I think it's sick. Apart from the fact that I don't care at all about it and I'm not even interested in it, I kinda feel proud of him for being intelligent and elegant enough not to talk about it. Besides being a famous celebrity, he is a human being having his own human feelings and human rights, for example the right to have private life. I said PRIVATE LIFE. Sometimes I think it should be explained very carefully and very slowly to press people what the word "private" means in the highly complicated expression "private life", because they don't seem to understand or respect it. However surprising and shocking it is, there are still some singers who doesn't want to be famous for their millionaire hotel-owning grandparents, for taking drugs while driving without a driving licence, for having sex in a public park, for divorcing from someone famous, or for dating with someon famous... but for singing. For writing great music, and doing fantastic concerts. Is that too hard to take in? Anyway, I think the world is a bit upside down. Normal things seem to be abnormal, and vica versa. I mean when someone makes an interview with this young, talented singer, he isn't asked about his music, his concerts, his inspirations, his working method, his stories behind the lyrics; but everyone finds it strange that he doesn't want to talk about who he sleeps with. Simply sick. Not that I think anyone will read it among my consignees, but two personal messages: For the press people who are always asking questions like this and for everyone who despise him just because he dares to keep his private life private: Well, normally I'm pretty shy and silent, I'm no way someone loud or rude, but simply take my message as an angry middle finger up. :thumbdown: For MIKA: Honestly I don't think you check this forum regularly (if you check it at all), but still, if you happen to read my post... Hold on! Don't let this stupid mess in the press let you down! I believe it's not you who is fool, but all the rest of the world! And you don't need to discuss your sexuality, start to have a macho image and stand in the row of all the other celebs who are nothing individuals, but cheap, well-promoted, plastic goods for sale. Your real fans, people who really appreciate your work , people who scream wildly in the first row on your concerts , people who feel happier when listening to your voice would never expect anything like this from you. Sorry for my far too long and emotional breakout. I know it won't stop stupid interviewers or change anything, but at least I myself feel better now just because it was said.

Thank you so much for posting this! I haven't seen this before, and I just love it! Great interview, Mika looks cute (again), and I find his drawing about Japanese image very lovely! Anyway, thanks!

Mika - Lollipop Mika - Love Today Katrina and the waves - Walking on sunshine EDIT: Gosh!!! How on Earth could I forget about this one??? Of course Grace Kelly is on my list too! Hey, Harabel! It was so funny, when I read only the title of this thread, I immediately thought of these 3 songs, and when I opened the thread, I could see that these are your first 3 songs too! LOL!!! And I would like to share my personal experience about Love Today if nobody minds. It's my funny mind controll, don't take it too serious, though for me it did work and did make me happier. So: right now I'm changing my job, I mean last week I left my working place and started to look for another job. But I used to have a very unfair, impolite, aggressive and stupid boss ; some impolite and unfriendly colleagues; moreover usually I'm pretty silent and shy. So it might sounds ridiculous and pathetic, but every single morning when I was travelling to my working place by public transport, I was listening to Mika's music on my ipod, and it gave me strenght. I mean in those circumstances the extremely vivid, vivacious, assertive chorus "everybody's gotta love me today" (I mean apart from the rest of the lyrics) meant so much to me. Try it, because it really works! ... Hmmm ... Mika-therapy...

These are my favourites, but please note this is not a 1-2-3 order. Even if I wanted to, I couldn't make a 1-2-3 order list, because it depends so much on my most recent mood. Mika - Any other world Mika - Over my shoulder Queen - Show must go on Queen - Too much love will kill you Andrew Lloyd Webber (from The Phantom of the Opera) - Angel of music Andrew Lloyd Webber (from The Phantom of the Opera) - Wishing you were somehow here again/Wandering child Andrew Lloyd Webber (from The Phantom of the Opera) - Why have you brought me here?/Raoul I've been there! Apocaliptica - Nothing else matters (a just instrumental adaptation for the Metallica song) P.S.: Sorry for the slightly eclectic list, I just tried to be honest and gather everything, though it's impossible.

HUNGARY!!! And if you read through this thread quickly, you will see requests like Croatia and Romania. Well, those are neighbouring countries, you could make a lot of people happy! Anyway, Mika, you almost come to Hungary to the "Sziget Festival" in August. I know you are very busy and of course I want you to have your own private life and free time, but it was quite a heartbreak for me when the concert was cancelled. I mean my boyfriend planned to buy 2 tickets for me as a nameday present, and I was so happy! (I don't know if this "nameday" stuff exsists in England too or it's just a Hungarian custom, let's say it's a celebration similar to birthdays. My one is on 12th August, and you would have come on 9th.) Moreover the posters of this festival are everywhere in the city, and they didn't change them to new ones, they are still saying Mika among the list of the singers! It's just totally killing me!!! So yeah, now I'm a bit unfair with this remorse provoking post, but anyway: PLEASE PLEASE I BEG YOU TO COME TO HUNGARY!!! A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE YOU HERE!!!