"FanFics"

[CazGirl]

haha. the fan fics i write arent about me being with mika but with other with mika!

 

I getcha. That's what I did in mine. I didn't describe any of my features and gave a name, because I wanted my readers to imagine that THEY were ones with Mika lol.

[BonjourMika1990]

Well, it has since died off lol... but my "stranded on a desert island with mika thread..." was up and running not too long ago and "a what if scenerio" turned into actual stories... It was quite remarkable to read what people wrote...

 

Mika said it himself, "Writers are geniuses inside of their heads..."

 

So I don't see why excersising that talent would be harmful UNLESS it portrayed mika in a bad light... But, we'll never know how he feels about "fanfics" because no one has asked him.

 

I have never liked the "dirty" fanfics because I can't see mika in that way lol... It's just too vulnerable a thing... But I've contributed my own story which features "mika" as a character...and the response I got was really amazing...

 

But, if we want to eliminate these stories, which are FICTION (not true) than we need to pause and rewind...

 

because nearly everyone here has said at one point in a discussion sometime somewhere, "what if mika...."

 

Isn't that the beginning of a story?

 

I respect this fanclub so much... and Mika, well I have so much love and respect for him...and if it made him feel violated in any way, I would say take those threads down...

 

However, I do think mika would support any aspiring writer... since he has stated that he is a writer himself, first and foremost.

 

WE ARE SPEAKING OF A MAN WHO HAS APOLOGIZED ON HIS OWN MYSPACE FOR USING PEOPLES LIVES AS THE BASIS FOR CHARACTERS IN HIS SONGS... I ASK YOU, ARE THE WRITERS ON THIS FORUM DOING THE SAME THING?

[artsyfartsy17]

*applauds Melanie*

[sparkly1]

I'm not really sure about them, when I was a teenager my best friend and I used to make up stories involving our fave band of the time, and did so for a few years, they were enjoyable and I think harmless, but they were just between myself and my friend.

Whereas these are going to be accessed by anyone and everyone on the internet, so I have misgivings because if someone stumbles upon them and doesn't understand what they are, they might think they are real events, and.... that makes me feel a bit uneasy in case it causes bother somehow in the real world for Mika or anyone else.

 

I didn't realize there is a name for these stories now until I saw it mentioned here on MFC, so I am sure there will be a lot of other people who have no idea they are just fiction.

 

Sometimes things said on here already can get taken for truth so easily when some people don't read a full thread (usually due to it's length), so the amount of things that can be misread or misinterpreted (due to language differences etc) are a lot more than if it's just between you and your friend rather than the world wide web.

 

so..I have reservations I guess.

[BonjourMika1990]

*applauds Melanie*

 

thanks lol:roftl:

[CazGirl]

lol why is it that whenever I have something to say, it's a speech? Melanie wrote pretty much the same thing as I did and it was much shorter. HOOOOW do you do it is my question LOL

[BonjourMika1990]

lol why is it that whenever I have something to say, it's a speech? Melanie wrote pretty much the same thing as I did and it was much shorter. HOOOOW do you do it is my question LOL

 

lol I liked what you said as well...

 

In school I get "instructed" to not be so flowery with my debate writing... they always say I write too much.. so it's a habit now to make it as to the point as possible

[CazGirl]

lol I liked what you said as well...

 

In school I get "instructed" to not be so flowery with my debate writing... they always say I write too much.. so it's a habit now to make it as to the point as possible

 

lmao with whatever I write...I tend to slowly go off topic...it still RELATES to the topic but it slowly goes off to the point where i think "this has nothing to do with it at all!" and try to thread the two together to make it make sense

[mandilambi]

I've never been a big fan of fanfics, because most usually (and I say this from experiences) it seems like people (particularly young girls) turn fanfics into soft porn. I can easily see this happening with this board too, considering how young girls view Mika.

 

Then again, I could be wrong....but yeah, I can totally see this occuring.

[BonjourMika1990]

in reference to the "dirty" fanfics that people write...

 

Doesn't mika know about "chicken" ????????lol

 

Did he seem to mind that? I think his response may indicate whether or not he really cares about girls looking at him as a sex symbol...

 

If he felt that uncomfortable about it, he wouldn't jump around half naked banging on a trash can in front of a sold out ALL AGES crowd... if you know what I mean

 

Also, writers take risks with their writing... for anyone to open up their imaginations like that... (even to THAT extent), it's an accomplishment because we're doing exactly what mika would LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO DO... broaden our imaginations and create our own little worlds to jump into...the key word is ILLUSIONS...

[sparkly1]

Caz, I think there is a bit of difference between a throwaway quick joke that can be seen as that, to a long story with characters and situations etc (apart from that I would NEVER really spank Mika, unless he asked me to0, then I would make him sing my fave song to me first , I just have a silly sense of humour, and that is kinda what I was getting at in my earlier post because we don't always know every person well on this forum and newbies and visitors won't either, so things may sometimes be taken the wrong way, and now they will all think I am a weirdo, (I am too but not in that way pfft). At least I don't liken him to a yellow bird ready for the oven, (I have matured now and only like Mika for his huge...talent.)

[Hannah]

in reference to the "dirty" fanfics that people write...

 

Doesn't mika know about "chicken" ????????lol

 

Did he seem to mind that? I think his response may indicate whether or not he really cares about girls looking at him as a sex symbol...

 

If he felt that uncomfortable about it, he wouldn't jump around half naked banging on a trash can in front of a sold out ALL AGES crowd... if you know what I mean

 

Well, it's two different things entirely if you're talking about thinking of him as a sex symbol and writing stories about you or other people having sex with him. Sex is a personal, private thing, and you shouldn't write about people doing it and put it on a public forum. It's disrespectful and would make the person it is written about surely uncomfortable.

[CazGirl]

Caz, I think there is a bit of difference between a throwaway quick joke that can be seen as that, to a long story with characters and situations etc (apart from that I would NEVER really spank Mika, unless he asked me to0, then I would make him sing my fave song to me first , I just have a silly sense of humour, and that is kinda what I was getting at in my earlier post because we don't always know every person well on this forum and newbies and visitors won't either, so things may sometimes be taken the wrong way, and now they will all think I am a weirdo, (I am too but not in that way pfft). At least I don't liken him to a yellow bird ready for the oven, (I have matured now and only like Mika for his huge...talent.)

 

lmao i love your humour Viv, it's the best!

 

Don't get me wrong, I completely understand what you mean and of course there is a difference is a short sentence and a story, but they both have similar implications do they not? Of course not everyone behaves and let's face it, it would be boring if we didn't spice things up once in a while () but the point is the topic isn't going to completely fizzle out. It's a lot like the forbidden demos and Mika's sexuality. We all know it's a kind of "taboo" on this forum but people still bring it up, no matter how much we try to stamp it out.

 

I'm going to quote a post of mine in a sec, i cant be arsed to repeat

[kk448]

Well, it's two different things entirely if you're talking about thinking of him as a sex symbol and writing stories about you or other people having sex with him. Sex is a personal, private thing, and you shouldn't write about people doing it and put it on a public forum. It's disrespectful and would make the person it is written about surely uncomfortable.

 

Agreed. I was going to reply to that but you did it so well.

[BonjourMika1990]

Well, it's two different things entirely if you're talking about thinking of him as a sex symbol and writing stories about you or other people having sex with him. Sex is a personal, private thing, and you shouldn't write about people doing it and put it on a public forum. It's disrespectful and would make the person it is written about surely uncomfortable.

 

I agree that putting fictional stories about poeple having sex with mika is wrong

 

but can WE really say that it would make the person written about uncomfortable though? I mean what I'm getting at is that this whole thing... IS A MYSTERY...

 

Mika has said himself that his own songs are dirty and that he thinks it's a good thing to put sexuality in music... his music is essentially masterful peices of literature

 

but because this is a forum open to young kids, it would be WISE to eliminate ALL of that "porn..ish" talk.

[Fmbm]

Its art...

[CazGirl]

again...people's opinions are different. I guess it depends on a person's age and/or their religion. Some people may consider reading about people kissing uncomfortable...

I'm fine with it - it's not really erotic - but it's also about putting yourself in Mika's shoes. If I was was famous and reading a fanfic about me kissing someone I would ... okay ... find it really funny, but also think it weird that people would be sexually attracted to me, even though we don't know each other.

I guess it's all about detail. Too much porno type detail I think we will all agree that is not acceptable on such a public forum. But, leaving it out but making it implied is different because it is left to the individual's imagination. I believe we should be celebrating everyone's beautiful style techniques, not hardcore "we did it hard and fast" plus more detail writing lol. It depends how you WRITE about it. You can still sort of include it but equally make it sound beautiful and artistic

 

For example (not that i'm the best writer in the world but you get the picture):

 

We stared at each other for a long while. His hand raised to my chin to gently pull me closer ... his eyelids covered his glassy brown eyes and I suppose mine did the same, as it was the last thing I saw. His lips were soft but I was lost in such a state of bliss and ecstacy, the memory of last night was a blur. I awoke this morning to find my lover and I intertwined with each other beneath the soft white sheets.

 

That, I believe, is acceptable. Also notice how I left out Mika's name. I think that maybe writing something like that it would be wise to also leave out his name. It can still be done and everyone can still relate to it. The writer could imagine their first love/crush/current other half, and the reader could be thinking exactly the same OR Mika or even someone else. This way it gives the reader to imagine the man - or woman - who would play their lover's role. It could also make Mika feel a bit more comfortable with it if he happens to stumble across it, because not every reader might be thinking about him.

 

that was me lol

 

i dont think people were saying PM all your stories - clean/erotic - to all your friends. the clean ones you can post, but not the dirty ones.

for example on the girls thread, i wrote a nice, clean paragraph and then said if anyone wants the rest, PM me, because I knew the content would not be appreciated on a public forum, especially for little ones. However, it IS up to you who you send it to. If you think they're mature enough to handle it then it's in your hands. But there are varieties of people on here....some people are experimental and some may stick to their religious background. Like you say, if a fanfic thread WAS to be created then it should clearly say so in the title so no-one gets upset and there's no war or outcry (lol).

 

I see what Blue Sky is saying about thr forum's reputation and I can understand and agree, hence why if you are to write something erotic, it should be PM'd. I also know what you mean by multiple threads. I used to write a fanfic crossover of an anime and an RPG (Role Playing Game) and posted it on http://www.fanfiction.net .

 

I suppose if it got a bit hectic on here, people's fanfics could be posted on an official fanfic site. It's an easy site to use as well.

 

EDIT: I also don't think these fanfics were created to disrespect Mika in any way...I suppose it depends on opinion. We in the girls thread wrote them for laugh, we were never serious about anything. I also used it to showcase my writing skills and we do have some very good writers. If we are to encourage a fanfiction thread then maybe we should try and shed some positive light in it, rather than the negative. We don't want to discourage people from their talents but to try and find a better outlet.

I very much like Robertina's idea about involving all of Mika's characters.

 

 

ta daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

[BonjourMika1990]

Its art...

 

Thank you

[Fmbm]

I agree that putting fictional stories about poeple having sex with mika is wrong

 

but can WE really say that it would make the person written about uncomfortable though? I mean what I'm getting at is that this whole thing... IS A MYSTERY...

 

Mika has said himself that his own songs are dirty and that he thinks it's a good thing to put sexuality in music... his music is essentially masterful peices of literature

 

but because this is a forum open to young kids, it would be WISE to eliminate ALL of that "porn..ish" talk.

 

And that is when the word "chicken" comes into play.

[Fmbm]

Thank you

 

Your welcome? hhahaha

[kk448]

I agree that putting fictional stories about poeple having sex with mika is wrong

 

but can WE really say that it would make the person written about uncomfortable though? I mean what I'm getting at is that this whole thing... IS A MYSTERY...

 

Mika has said himself that his own songs are dirty and that he thinks it's a good thing to put sexuality in music... his music is essentially masterful peices of literature

 

but because this is a forum open to young kids, it would be WISE to eliminate ALL of that "porn..ish" talk.

 

I get that we don't know whether it would make Mika uncomfortable but we also don't know that it wouldn't. So, just in case, I'd just say fan fictions are fine but keep them PG rated, at least on the forum.

 

At any rate, I completely agree with JackViolet's opinion on fan fictions. I remember reading about what she thought of them. I won't even try to put into my own words on what she said, because I'll ruin it. She writes so well. If I can find the post...

[CazGirl]

I get that we don't know whether it would make Mika uncomfortable but we also don't know that it wouldn't. So, just in case, I'd just say fan fictions are fine but keep them PG rated, at least on the forum.

 

At any rate, I completely agree with JackViolet's opinion on fan fictions. I remember reading about what she thought of them. I won't even try to put into my own words on what she said, because I'll ruin it. She writes so well. If I can find the post...

 

jack violet should be the politician on this forum LOL.

[kk448]

jack violet should be the politician on this forum LOL.

 

Haha, I must say she has swayed my opinion on a few things just because of how well she argues her side. I would hate to be in a debate with her! But I would love to watch one with her in it.

[CazGirl]

Haha, I must say she has swayed my opinion on a few things just because of how well she argues her side. I would hate to be in a debate with her! But I would love to watch one with her in it.

 

well ive said my piece a few times with her lol but the reason why i love her posts is because not only is it beautifully written but states her point clearly and directly without beating round the bush and actually DISCUSSES the issue without arguing, making the situation a lot easier.

 

 

btw...has anyone actually seen my quoted post on the previous page lol

[babyblue]

I think it is important to differentiate between what the types of fanfic in terms of what we approve and disapprove of. Some of the stuff in this thread is more relevant to erotic fan fic (eg a 16 + label) but as mentioned, not all fanfic is like that.

 

There is a marked difference between a story about having chicken with Mika, and for instance, the PPR thread (which I do advise people to glance over if not entirely sure what I mean) which is an ongoing adventure thread written by multiple writers. We try to keep our thread as innocent and friendly as possible.

 

As such is the nature of this story, it is not possible for us to continue it over pm, after all, there is a limit on how many people you can send a pm to, and the amount of pms you can have in your inbox and I fear that each of the participants would have full inboxes within a day.

 

Further, many people have suggested one thread for fan fics. While this may be fine for short stories involving Mika, it would not work in the case of hte PPR, which is a highly profilic thread as is, and would simply result in having to create additional parts more often. Plus, as the PPR is really just one huge fan fic, to add the other fan fics into a thread with it would simply confuse those who write in the ppr and those who read it and the other fan fics.

 

I do agree that erotic fan fiction may be best lest to pm, myspace blogs or other sites as this is an all ages forum and though it is true that you don't have to read what you don't want to, at the same time, some of the younger younglings may be tempted to read it out of curiousity and while it is not our resposibility, as members of the forum, to protect them, I have noticed one of the important features of this forum is that we still try to do so, thus ensuring that anyone of any age can feel comfortable on the forum.

 

I am aware that my own opinion on this matter is a tad biased, as a ppr writer. However, at the same time I do not have a problem with well written fanfics, though I do believe erotic fics should be kept private.