macboll Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I heard the same etymology for the word "posh" as Sienna. Here's a link http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=posh . The ferry operator I work for is even quoted in the first paragraph LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Yes I've heard it many times too and I don't recall that it's ever been disputed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Does anyone know where the English word Posh comes from?There is a funny discussion going on in a big newspaper in Sweden and the latest suggestion is that it comes from something that was written on the ticket back in the days when Englishmen used to travel by boat to India. To point out that a wealthy passenger should have the best possible place on the boat it meant: Port out, starboard home. Can that really be the truth? That's currently believed to be an urban myth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sienna Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 I heard the same etymology for the word "posh" as Sienna. Here's a link http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=posh . The ferry operator I work for is even quoted in the first paragraph LOL Yes I've heard it many times too and I don't recall that it's ever been disputed. Thanks! That's currently believed to be an urban myth So...what do you think it comes from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basicamenteyo Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Does anyone know where the English word Posh comes from?There is a funny discussion going on in a big newspaper in Sweden and the latest suggestion is that it comes from something that was written on the ticket back in the days when Englishmen used to travel by boat to India. To point out that a wealthy passenger should have the best possible place on the boat it meant: Port out, starboard home. Can that really be the truth? Oh, it´s really interesting! I have no idea though LOL What I remember is how in school we were told that "pub" came from "public house" and OK came from a war (I can´t remember which war) and at the end of the day, soldiers were talking among them saying "0 killed" (meaning they all had survived). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Thanks! So...what do you think it comes from? Scholars now think it derives from another language (Romany? Hindu? ) - I can't remember which one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Oh, it´s really interesting! I have no idea though LOL What I remember is how in school we were told that "pub" came from "public house" and OK came from a war (I can´t remember which war) and at the end of the day, soldiers were talking among them saying "0 killed" (meaning they all had survived). "pub" is definitely short for public house, but I've never heard that explanation for OK before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sienna Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Scholars now think it derives from another language (Romany? Hindu? ) - I can't remember which one Ah, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basicamenteyo Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 "pub" is definitely short for public house, but I've never heard that explanation for OK before. Oh well, maybe it´s just something my teacher made up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basicamenteyo Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 A question... If this sentence is right: I want you to do it What about this one?: I need you to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruth Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 A question... If this sentence is right: I want you to do it What about this one?: I need you to do it. They are both fine grammatically. The 'need' verb is more pressing than 'want'. My son, when young learnt that 'I want . . . ' didn't get him anything but it was much harder to resist 'I need . . . ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 A question... If this sentence is right: I want you to do it What about this one?: I need you to do it. They are both correct. "I want" infers that whatever they are asking for is desired, not required. "I need" means that (in the simplest sense) that whatever they are asking for is required for the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basicamenteyo Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 They are both fine grammatically. The 'need' verb is more pressing than 'want'. My son, when young learnt that 'I want . . . ' didn't get him anything but it was much harder to resist 'I need . . . ' They are both correct. "I want" infers that whatever they are asking for is desired, not required. "I need" means that (in the simplest sense) that whatever they are asking for is required for the situation. Thank you very much. So (yeah, a need question again) are these sentences both correct?: - I need you to clean the window. - I need you clean the window. Cause at first I always thought that the first one was correct but then, I see more often the second one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 - I need you to clean the window. - I need you clean the window. Cause at first I always thought that the first one was correct but then, I see more often the second one... No the second one is incorrect and I can't imagine a native English speaker saying that under any circumstances. Where are you seeing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basicamenteyo Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 No the second one is incorrect and I can't imagine a native English speaker saying that under any circumstances. Where are you seeing this? LOL on the net... can´t remember where exactly, but that´s why I asked cause I thought it was incorrect. I´ve been reading blogs about Sherlock lately, maybe it was there when I saw that... not sure though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Maybe it's a typo then because it's just not the kind of mistake anyone would make in speech, not even a child or someone who is illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basicamenteyo Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Maybe it's a typo then because it's just not the kind of mistake anyone would make in speech, not even a child or someone who is illiterate. Or maybe many of those blogs were written by non-English speakers... I randomly chose them after a google research.... Cause the only other thing I´m reading in English now is "The Land of Painted Caves" and I´m pretty sure it´s quite well written Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) Thank you very much. So (yeah, a need question again) are these sentences both correct?: - I need you to clean the window. - I need you clean the window. Cause at first I always thought that the first one was correct but then, I see more often the second one... Yeah, the second one is very incorrect. The 'to' in a sentence like that is required. Edited April 9, 2012 by Micah The O and I keys are WAY too close together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basicamenteyo Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Yeah, the second one is very incorrect. The 'to' om a sentence like that is required. And I bet you mean "in" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 And I bet you mean "in" Ey Ey Ey!! Yes! Sorry! I'll fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basicamenteyo Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Ey Ey Ey!! Yes! Sorry! I'll fix it. LOL sometimes I´m not sure when you English speakers make a typo or it´s just a new word I´ve never seen before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 LOL sometimes I´m not sure when you English speakers make a typo or it´s just a new word I´ve never seen before HeeHee! I even read it through once to make sure I didn't have any typos. Apparently, I missed one. But then again, I'm like the Queen of Typos, so a few can be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_tails_09 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Thank you very much. So (yeah, a need question again) are these sentences both correct?: - I need you to clean the window. - I need you clean the window. Cause at first I always thought that the first one was correct but then, I see more often the second one... "to clean" is actually the whole verb, so not including "to" isn't proper Also, putting another word between the two words isn't proper grammar, but English speakers actually do it fairly frequently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 "to clean" is actually the whole verb, so not including "to" isn't proper Also, putting another word between the two words isn't proper grammar, but English speakers actually do it fairly frequently Ah the split infinitive , as demonstrated by Star Trek, "to boldly go". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Ah the split infinitive , as demonstrated by Star Trek, "to boldly go". I like it. It's poetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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