WeronikaAnnaKlara Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Bonjour! I'm learning French at school and I need 30 simple sentences in COD transformed later on passé composé. For example: Je souligne la lettre. Je la souligne. J'ai souligné la lettre. Je l'ai soulignée. I understand COD, but passé composé... I would be grateful if someone could help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi Ruth! I'm new here, I'm French and as I said in my introduction I would love to help anybody with French work or translation in French/English. I'm not one of the teachers in this thread but I guess I can help anyway. So, about your work, first of all well done you are really good at French! If you don't mind I'll give you some advice on some bits of your text. In the first part when you say "je suis très contente" I think you want to say "I was happy" so "j'étais très contente". Then "il est un jeune homme", you'd rather say "c'est un jeune homme". it sounds more natural. "depuis neuf ans" would be "pendant neuf ans" (depuis means since and pendant means for). "grand et mince" is fine. "lebanese" = libanaise. for "friendly", you could put "amical" or "aimable". you can say "fans" for "fanatiques". "things I loved about my husband" = les choses que j'aimais chez mon mari "when we met" = quand nous nous sommes rencontrés (we use "être" not "avoir") "tall, dark, handsome" maybe grand, beau, ténébreux? I love how you talk about him by the way! You're a real fan! and so lucky to have met him 5 times! Hope this was useful xx Thankyou for taking the time with all this, it was very useful. Sometimes I could kick myself about my mistakes. I know reflexive verbs take être, not avoir! How do the French learn English? You are so good at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Bonjour! I'm learning French at school and I need 30 simple sentences in COD transformed later on passé composé. For example: Je souligne la lettre. Je la souligne. J'ai souligné la lettre. Je l'ai soulignée. I understand COD, but passé composé... I would be grateful if someone could help me. COD? Remind me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Direct objects huh? Is this any use? http://french.about.com/od/grammar/a/directobjects.htm If not today then maybe another time, it's a good site: french.about.com Je jette la boule. Je la jette. J'ai jeté la boule. Je l'ai jetée. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cath85 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Bonjour! I'm learning French at school and I need 30 simple sentences in COD transformed later on passé composé. For example: Je souligne la lettre. Je la souligne. J'ai souligné la lettre. Je l'ai soulignée. I understand COD, but passé composé... I would be grateful if someone could help me. it's a good start if you understand COD. passé composé is easy to understand, it's just a tense of the past. je souligne ==> j'ai souligné it's similar in English: I underline ==> I have underlined (although the tenses aren't necessarily used in the same situations) what was it exactly about passé composé that you didn't understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niki27 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Bonjour! I'm learning French at school and I need 30 simple sentences in COD transformed later on passé composé. For example: Je souligne la lettre. Je la souligne. J'ai souligné la lettre. Je l'ai soulignée. I understand COD, but passé composé... I would be grateful if someone could help me. What exactly don't you understand? When to put an e or an s at the end of the past participle? In French, the past participle needs to be in 'agreement' with the COD if the COD comes before the past participle in the sentence. By agreement, we mean +E at the end of the past participle if the COD is a female noun +S if plural noun +ES if plural and female J'ai mangé des pommes. mangé: past participle 'des pommes' = COD In this sentence, the COD is placed AFTER the past participle --> you don't change it. Les pommes que j'ai mangées. Here, 'les pommes' comes before the past participle--> you'll need an agreement 'les pommes' being female : add a E at the end of your past particple. and being plural: add a S too. Je les ai mangées. 'les' stands for your COD 'pommes' and comes before the verb --> you add E and S again. Example J'ai vu ma soeur. (COD: 'ma soeur', female and singular- After verb --> no change) Je l'ai vue. ('l' stands for 'ma soeur', female, singular, before --> add E) etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeronikaAnnaKlara Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 What exactly don't you understand? When être, when avoir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikutukumimika Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 When être, when avoir? With these verbs you use être: Naitre Aller Venir Arriver Entrer Montrer Rester Descendre Sortir Partir Passer Tomber Mourir Retourner Everything else is avoir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeronikaAnnaKlara Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks everyone!!! On Tuesday I have the test from it, I will let you know how I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikutukumimika Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks everyone!!! On Tuesday I have the test from it, I will let you know how I did. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeronikaAnnaKlara Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Merci beaucoup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niki27 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 With these verbs you use être: Naitre Aller Venir Arriver Entrer Montrer Rester Descendre Sortir Partir Passer Tomber Mourir Retourner Everything else is avoir. I wish it was that simple, but it's not. I'm afraid you'll have to learn when to use 'to be' by heart. And beware of the meaning! Il a descendu une montagne. Il est descendu à la cave. J'ai retourné la feuille. Je suis retourné à la maison. Je suis sorti hier soir. J'ai sorti les poubelles. Je suis passé au supermarché. J'ai passé le sel à mon voisin. In that list, only Naître - Aller - Venir - Arriver -Rester- Partir - Mourir are accurate. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikutukumimika Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 That was what I learned at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cath85 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 That was what I learned at school. yeah that's what they teach you at the beginning. I know we started learning it like that as well. and later on they tell you that life is a lot more complicated than what they told you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikutukumimika Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 yeah that's what they teach you at the beginning. I know we started learning it like that as well. and later on they tell you that life is a lot more complicated than what they told you Cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Cinderella Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 COD? Remind me please? I'm french, it's been something like 10 years that everybody talk to me about COD. I always forget what it is... Complément d'Objet Direct. Ok but what does it mean ? Ok, I'm going to hide myself in the cave of shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxy Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 bonjour j'ai une question parce que même mon professeur de(du?) français ne sait pas la réponse. Curt ni Evy n'ont su répondre. OU Curt ni Evy n'a su répondre. Gypsy ni Isa ne sifflera le match. OU Gypsy ni Isa ne siffleront le match. Il ni vous n'ont la réponse. OU Il ni vous n'a la réponse. Je veux que Curt ni Evy n'ait de blessures. OU Je veux que Curt ni Evy n'aient de blessures. merci! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Cinderella Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 bonjour j'ai une question parce que même mon professeur de(du?) français ne sait pas la réponse. Curt ni Evy n'ont su répondre. OU Curt ni Evy n'a su répondre. Gypsy ni Isa ne sifflera le match. OU Gypsy ni Isa ne siffleront le match. Il ni vous n'ont la réponse. OU Il ni vous n'a la réponse. Je veux que Curt ni Evy n'ait de blessures. OU Je veux que Curt ni Evy n'aient de blessures. merci! Ton professeur de français. Ni Curt ni Evy n'ont su répondre. Ni Gypsy ni Isa ne sifflera le match. Il ni vous n'ont la réponse. OU Il ni vous n'a la réponse. What do you mean ? Je veux que ni Curt ni Evy n'aient de blessures. "Je ne veux pas que Curt et Evy soient bléssés" is more frenchn but apparently you work the "ni". I hope it helped you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxy Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Ton professeur de français. Ni Curt ni Evy n'ont su répondre. Ni Gypsy ni Isa ne sifflera le match. Il ni vous n'ont la réponse. OU Il ni vous n'a la réponse. What do you mean ? Je veux que ni Curt ni Evy n'aient de blessures. "Je ne veux pas que Curt et Evy soient bléssés" is more frenchn but apparently you work the "ni". I hope it helped you. merci yeah never mind the third one:aah: Ni Curt ni Evy n'ont su répondre. with an extra "ni"? then it's wrong in my book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Cinderella Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 merci yeah never mind the third one:aah: Ni Curt ni Evy n'ont su répondre. with an extra "ni"? then it's wrong in my book... Hum. Strange. We all say "Ni Curt ni Evy" ... Your book must be wrong. I hate when school books are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxy Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hum. Strange. We all say "Ni Curt ni Evy" ... Your book must be wrong. I hate when school books are wrong. yeah me too it's confusing. but maybe they use only 1 "ni" in wallonia... probably not though:wink2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Cinderella Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 yeah me too it's confusing. but maybe they use only 1 "ni" in wallonia... probably not though:wink2: I'm not sure. I've only been there once, and I'm sorry but that comfirmed all the cliché about Belgium ^^. I think it's the same french in France and in Wallonia. Not like Quebec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camille* Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi Roxy! Just wanted to say, you do need to add an extra 'ni', books are often wrong.. And I wonder, was your question actually about whether you need the plural form or not? Like sifflera/siffleront? If so, I've got to say I'm not sure of the answer.. but i would use the simple form "sifflera" etc. Hope it helped xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruth Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I always thought you needed two: 'ni' and 'ni' as in: 'neither' and 'nor' Neither Curt nor Evy ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxy Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'm not sure. I've only been there once, and I'm sorry but that comfirmed all the cliché about Belgium ^^. I think it's the same french in France and in Wallonia. Not like Quebec. well, i know there are differences (like 90: quatre-vingt-dix in france and nonante in wallonia i think), so well... i dunno which chlichés? Hi Roxy! Just wanted to say, you do need to add an extra 'ni', books are often wrong.. And I wonder, was your question actually about whether you need the plural form or not? Like sifflera/siffleront? If so, I've got to say I'm not sure of the answer.. but i would use the simple form "sifflera" etc. Hope it helped xx yeah it was the plural/sing. thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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