MikaMan Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Im sorry if this has already been done but i have been told that Mika has copied this song and to be honest this and "Elle me Dit" do sound alike If anyone knows anything about this please inform me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikaMadLuke Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I hear it too... Not surprised, Mika's copied stuff before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_in_Slow_Motion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Knew_Too_Much_(1956_film) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikaMan Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 But they are only names not actual songs I really wouldnt have expected it from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikaMadLuke Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Oh dear. Indeed! Let's just not ever bring this up ever again... Move along, nothing to see here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerMoment1608 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Yes, the mellody in the back is very similar. But the number of notes is limitated, I think if you really search for it you will find a bunch of other songs with this mellody. So, I wouldn't assume that Mika was copying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachie b Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) Wow sounds just like it Ha ha ha Youngling # 142 Queeniac # 92 15 - 8 - 2012 St. Jean sur Richelieu "It's Basically Pointlessly Delicious" Edited August 20, 2012 by rachie b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikaMan Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Wow sounds just like it Youngling # 142 Queeniac # 92 15 - 8 - 2012 St. Jean sur Richelieu "It's Basically Pointlessly Delicious" I know im really worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaito Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Not sure if It should relieve everyon BUT on the Mika's French Wikipedia Page, they already talked about something similar for "Relax" : "On retrouve sur ce titre la mélodie d'(I Just) Died in Your Arms de Cutting Crew, ainsi que l'introduction et la mélodie du fameux Spacer de Sheila & B.Devotion." (In short, the song Relax'd have the same melody as (I just) Died in Your Arms and have the same intro + melody as Sheila's "Spacer"). => (I Just) Died in Your Arms : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqqVgXPclsE => Sheila : I can hear something similar for the 1st song but not for the 2nd one ^^' Anyway, Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source but... this current topic remind me of that Wiki Page Story :') As I really LOVE "Elle me dit", I'd love to have this topic cleared 'cause I don't like that feeling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milda Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Not sure if It should relieve everyon BUT on the Mika's French Wikipedia Page, they already talked about something similar for "Relax" : "On retrouve sur ce titre la mélodie d'(I Just) Died in Your Arms de Cutting Crew, ainsi que l'introduction et la mélodie du fameux Spacer de Sheila & B.Devotion." (In short, the song Relax'd have the same melody as (I just) Died in Your Arms and have the same intro + melody as Sheila's "Spacer"). It's the first time I read something like this. It can't be true! :rolls_eyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Not sure if It should relieve everyon BUT on the Mika's French Wikipedia Page, they already talked about something similar for "Relax" : "On retrouve sur ce titre la mélodie d'(I Just) Died in Your Arms de Cutting Crew The difference is the person who wrote the Cutting Crew song is credited as a writer on Relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdeb Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Well, there's an undeniable similarity, but that doesn't automatically mean that Mika heard it and deliberately "stole" the melody. He does listen to all sorts of music online, so he might have heard this at some point and had it rattling around in his subsconscious... then used it months later not really realizing where the tune had come from. Or, perhaps one of his other writing pseudonyms is iRome. I suppose this won't be the last we hear about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basicamenteyo Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 As long as he keeps on singing "Elle-me-dit" instead of "M-T-V" it´s ok with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokesignal Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 As long as he keeps on singing "Elle-me-dit" instead of "M-T-V" it´s ok with me. I'm more worried about underwater, to be honest. It's just the first line, but still: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I'm pretty sure there is a number of notes that can be the same and don't mean stealing, I've read it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaraMay Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 A lot of songs are similar to eachother in the world, it's music and sometimes chord progressions and notes played in a specific order can be replicated millions of times in a million different songs. I could go on forever but I remember I once went to a Justice concert a few years back and was shocked to hear them perform a song almost identical to a song I had recorded lol but yeah, I'm sure Mika didn't copy this song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokesignal Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 A lot of songs are similar to eachother in the world, it's music and sometimes chord progressions and notes played in a specific order can be replicated millions of times in a million different songs. I could go on forever but I remember I once went to a Justice concert a few years back and was shocked to hear them perform a song almost identical to a song I had recorded lol but yeah, I'm sure Mika didn't copy this song Oh, I'm convinced of that. It's happened to me as well, just kidding around on the piano when my boyfriend somewhat astonished asked me how I knew that song. Well, I didn't, or at least so I thought. I've probably heard it somewhere at some point, but I sure can't remember. But then I'd never get in trouble for playing a song in my living room. That's where the worrying part comes from. But as I'm not a lawyer, perhaps I should leave the worrying to Mika's management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzie Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) We have had this conversation several times on MFC. If a song has a strong resemblance to another and the songwriter of the one that was written earlier is not credited on the song that was written later, it is a breach of copyright and you can sue the person. The things that needs to be decided in such cases are as follows: 1. Resemblance of the two songs: - if it is the chords only, then forget it. There aren't that many combinations of chord progressions that two people independently couldn't come up with the same independent of each other. - if it is the melody (like in case of 'MTV'), it depends on the length of the similar melody (throughout how many bars you hear the same...etc) as well as other factors that would decide if this is a case that would qualify for 'stealing' the song. 2. Proof that the writer of the second could have possibly heard the first song (i.e. if the song was released before or the writer may have heard it any other circumstances) If there is a proven resemblance that means a breach of copyright law, it does not matter if it was written intentionally or not, the writer of the newer song needs to share rights to the song with the other one or make an agreement in any other way. There have been some examples mentioned on this thread and I'd say the resemblance to the Road to Mandalay and UW is zero, whilst this MTV song is built on the same but really short piece of melody EMD is. It is so apparent because this simple melody is used as a sample and is repeated thoughout the song and even the verses follow the same melody in both songs. Whether or not someone could have a strong case with it at court, I don't know. I think I like MTV just as much as I like Elle Me Dit. I hope Emily will be a bit more exciting for me. Edited August 20, 2012 by suzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom_kimool_boom Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Not sure if It should relieve everyon BUT on the Mika's French Wikipedia Page, they already talked about something similar for "Relax" : "On retrouve sur ce titre la mélodie d'(I Just) Died in Your Arms de Cutting Crew, ainsi que l'introduction et la mélodie du fameux Spacer de Sheila & B.Devotion." (In short, the song Relax'd have the same melody as (I just) Died in Your Arms and have the same intro + melody as Sheila's "Spacer"). => (I Just) Died in Your Arms : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqqVgXPclsE => Sheila : I can hear something similar for the 1st song but not for the 2nd one ^^' Anyway, Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source but... this current topic remind me of that Wiki Page Story :') As I really LOVE "Elle me dit", I'd love to have this topic cleared 'cause I don't like that feeling... about "I just dies in your arms" yes i read here that the writer of it was so pleased that Mika changed it! http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=9928 and the "MTV" songs sounds alike but i don't think that Mika copied from them, maybe the producer of Elle Me Dit used the rhythm on MTV song one. u know what i mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngievV Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I am very disappointed in him:mf_rosetinted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikaMan Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 Well, there's an undeniable similarity, but that doesn't automaticallymean that Mika heard it and deliberately "stole" the melody. He does listen to all sorts of music online, so he might have heard this at some point and had it rattling around in his subsconscious... then used it months later not really realizing where the tune had come from. Or, perhaps one of his other writing pseudonyms is iRome. I suppose this won't be the last we hear about this. I agree about the subconscious theory and i remember a few years ago when that coldplay guy got sued for doin something like this without knowin it Im not sayin mika will get sued because the coldplay ones were really similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywonka Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Let's not diss the dirt, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzie Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I am very disappointed in him:mf_rosetinted: yes, indeed, given the amazingness of both songs in question. I blame that French guy, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droopsy Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Oh wow Trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngievV Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 yes, indeed, given the amazingness of both songs in question. I blame that French guy, anyway. I am Switzerland. No comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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