lily Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Tell them a story of a boy like me, is the last line i think Is it possible that the part where he starts talking about the woman and being dressed up as the man she loved is a completely different story then the first part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisylou Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 the point of the matter is MIKA! will never tell you what the meaning of this song is...I for one have realised by now that whatever we all "think" it is...the song will have some dark, other meaning behind it...he is a tease and twists things till they make sense on many levels to him. They have more tiers than a wedding cake! xxx ps. can't fathom the words out... On a long lost day when you're grey and old Would you be there remembering your old toy boy When your ******** wondering what to be tell them the story of a boy like me xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatagordinha Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 the point of the matter is MIKA! will never tell you what the meaning of this song is...I for one have realised by now that whatever we all "think" it is...the song will have some dark, other meaning behind it...he is a tease and twists things till they make sense on many levels to him. They have more tiers than a wedding cake!xxx ps. can't fathom the words out... On a long lost day when you're grey and old Would you be there remembering your old toy boy When your ******** wondering what to be tell them the story of a boy like me xxx I kind of agree with you Daisy. We probably won't ever know the real meaning of the song, and I can't see much point analysing every last word and phrase to be honest because as you say, there are so many layers and double entendres. And a general point (not directly at Daisy): sometimes I think over-analysing lyrics spoils the enjoyment..and asking a songwriter to explain lyrics is futile, though no doubt he will get asked constantly about thees particular lyrics when the album comes out *yawn*. I have my own ideas/interpretation about the meaning (as everyone probably does) but I see no point in discussing it here, frankly! Though if everyone else enjoys that, then that's absolutely fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeve272 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 the point of the matter is MIKA! will never tell you what the meaning of this song is...I for one have realised by now that whatever we all "think" it is...the song will have some dark, other meaning behind it...he is a tease and twists things till they make sense on many levels to him. They have more tiers than a wedding cake!xxx ps. can't fathom the words out... On a long lost day when you're grey and old Would you be there remembering your old toy boy When your ******** wondering what to be tell them the story of a boy like me xxx We figured it out a page or so ago... we reckon it's: When your only son's wondering what to be Tell him the story of a boy like me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Simpson Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I kind of agree with you Daisy. We probably won't ever know the real meaning of the song, and I can't see much point analysing every last word and phrase to be honest because as you say, there are so many layers and double entendres. And a general point (not directly at Daisy): sometimes I think over-analysing lyrics spoils the enjoyment..and asking a songwriter to explain lyrics is futile, though no doubt he will get asked constantly about thees particular lyrics when the album comes out *yawn*. I have my own ideas/interpretation about the meaning (as everyone probably does) but I see no point in discussing it here, frankly! Though if everyone else enjoys that, then that's absolutely fine. I think that's only half true- a songwriter won't know half of what he puts into a song, some of the content will be unconscious- but Mika's comments on Grace Kelly were very interesting and added to our understanding of him. Even he did get asked a million times. I think discussing lyrics is lots of fun, and if I wrote them I'd be pleased people were so into them. And looking at the layers and double entendres Mika has chosen to include does tell us something about him. I'm feeling some pressure to add "but of course, we must realise that our conclusions are far from hard fact" but, though I've read a few people saying this, I haven't seen any evidence that people are making that mistake, so I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstar Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 What that means to me is that he is a deeply empathic person, and really does receive what other people 'tell' him, and can enter into their feelings. That skill is so rare... He's not just doing the standard 'love and lust and lost', he's seeing the wholeness of people... Wow. Very, very well put. I definitely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatagordinha Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I think that's only half true- a songwriter won't know half of what he puts into a song, some of the content will be unconscious- but Mika's comments on Grace Kelly were very interesting and added to our understanding of him. Even he did get asked a million times. I think discussing lyrics is lots of fun, and if I wrote them I'd be pleased people were so into them. And looking at the layers and double entendres Mika has chosen to include does tell us something about him. I'm feeling some pressure to add "but of course, we must realise that our conclusions are far from hard fact" but, though I've read a few people saying this, I haven't seen any evidence that people are making that mistake, so I won't. I see what you are saying, and I agree that Mika would probably enjoy the fact that we are thinking about those layers and possible interpretations, as a lot has gone into them both conscious and subconscious, as you suggest. I guess I just personally enjoy the mystery of a lyric and my own reading of it more than actively analysing it with others, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Simpson Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I see what you are saying, and I agree that Mika would probably enjoy the fact that we are thinking about those layers and possible interpretations, as a lot has gone into them both conscious and subconscious, as you suggest. I guess I just personally enjoy the mystery of a lyric and my own reading of it more than actively analysing it with others, but that's just me. If Mika did have a Toy Boy story, like he has a GK story- would that bother you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzie Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) LATEST VERSION OF LYRICS - looks like final, let me know if any doubts TOY BOY I’m a wind-up toy in an up down world If you leave me all alone, I’ll make a mess for sure I’ve a heart of gold in a smaller size Leave me in the dark, you’ll never hear me cry More than an illustration Points of articulation Come to life on a brass spring Such a wonderful plaything It’s a cruel cross that I have to bear Come a little close I’m going to pull your hair More than just a toy in a patch-blue suit Hold me in your arms I’m just a boy like you But your mama thought there was somethin’ wrong Didn’t want you sleeping with a boy too long It’s a serious thing in a grown-up world Maybe you’d be better with a Barbie girl You knew that I had adored ya But you left me in Georgia Toys are not sentimental How could I be for rental? She’s the meanest hag that has ever been Pulled out my insides with an old safety pin I’m the sorest sight, now I feel like trash Clothes are made of rags and they don’t even match So she dressed me up as the man she loved Then threw me in a box when she had had enough Now the light of day I no longer see She stuck her voodoo pins where my eyes used to be Accidentally tragic Victim of her black magic Had a boy once who loved me Now he’s so afraid of me On a long lost day when you’re grey and old Would you be there remembering your old toy boy? When your only son's wondering what to be Tell him the story of a boy like me Edited April 19, 2009 by suzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstar Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 LATEST VERSION OF LYRICS - looks like final, let me know if any doubts TOY BOY I’m a wind-up toy in an up down world If you leave me all alone, I’ll make a mess for sure I’ve a heart of gold and the smartest styles smaller size Leave me in the dark, you’ll never hear me cry More than an illustration Points of articulation Come to life on a brass spring Such a wonderful plaything It’s a cruel cross that I have to bear Come a little close I’m going to pull your hair More than just a toy in a patch-blue suit Hold me in your arms I’m just a boy like you But your mama thought there was somethin’ wrong Didn’t want you sleeping with a boy too long It’s a serious thing in a grown-up world Maybe you’d be better with a Barbie girl You knew that I had adored ya But you left me in Georgia Toys are not sentimental How could I be for rental? She’s the meanest hag that has ever been Pulled out my insides with an old safety pin I’m the sorest sight, now I feel like trash Clothes are made of rags and they don’t even match So she dressed me up as the man she loved Then threw me in a box when she had had enough Now the light of day I no longer see She stuck her voodoo pins where my eyes used to be Accidentally tragic Victim of her black magic Had a boy once who loved me Now he’s so afraid of me On a long lost day when you’re grey and old Would you be there remembering your old toy boy? When your only son's wondering what to be Tell him the story of a boy like me I changed a few bits. I just made the bit about not hearing cry red. Are we sure about that? Is it never, or will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzie Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I changed a few bits. I just made the bit about not hearing cry red. Are we sure about that? Is it never, or will? Smaller size does not make much sense to me (Heart of Gold in a smaller size? - maybe) but I listened and smartest eyes make more sense, so I changed it. You'll never hear me cry sounds OK for me and I think it was never questioned. Any idea of what else it might be? PS: can't imagine it going No 1 in Texas and neither in Georgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I absolutely love this song! Thank you so so much for the lyrics people! I don't think I even could've made out half of them by myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeve272 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Smaller size does not make much sense to me (Heart of Gold in a smaller size? - maybe) but I listened and smartest eyes make more sense, so I changed it. You'll never hear me cry sounds OK for me and I think it was never questioned. Any idea of what else it might be? PS: can't imagine it going No 1 in Texas and neither in Georgia Maybe "I've a heart of gold and the smallest eyes"? I don't know! or a heart of gold of the smallest size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKaL00v3 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Smaller size does not make much sense to me (Heart of Gold in a smaller size? - maybe) but I listened and smartest eyes make more sense, so I changed it. You'll never hear me cry sounds OK for me and I think it was never questioned. Any idea of what else it might be? PS: can't imagine it going No 1 in Texas and neither in Georgia I heard and the smallest eyes which is kind of half half xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiobi Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I heard smallest size:roftl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeve272 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 well, "smallest eyes" and "smallest size" are phonetically very similar, just the first s in "size" is the only difference...so we may never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilek Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 LATEST VERSION OF LYRICS - looks like final, let me know if any doubts TOY BOY I’m a wind-up toy in an up down world If you leave me all alone, I’ll make a mess for sure I’ve a heart of gold and the smartest eyes Leave me in the dark, you’ll never hear me cry More than an illustration Points of articulation Come to life on a brass spring Such a wonderful plaything It’s a cruel cross that I have to bear Come a little close I’m going to pull your hair More than just a toy in a patch-blue suit Hold me in your arms I’m just a boy like you But your mama thought there was somethin’ wrong Didn’t want you sleeping with a boy too long It’s a serious thing in a grown-up world Maybe you’d be better with a Barbie girl You knew that I had adored ya But you left me in Georgia Toys are not sentimental How could I be for rental? She’s the meanest hag that has ever been Pulled out my insides with an old safety pin I’m the sorest sight, now I feel like trash Clothes are made of rags and they don’t even match So she dressed me up as the man she loved Then threw me in a box when she had had enough Now the light of day I no longer see She stuck her voodoo pins where my eyes used to be Accidentally tragic Victim of her black magic Had a boy once who loved me Now he’s so afraid of me On a long lost day when you’re grey and old Would you be there remembering your old toy boy? When your only son's wondering what to be Tell him the story of a boy like me i hear " cruel blue cross ":blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keti Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I heard smallest size:roftl: Oh boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstar Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Smaller size does not make much sense to me (Heart of Gold in a smaller size? - maybe) but I listened and smartest eyes make more sense, so I changed it. You'll never hear me cry sounds OK for me and I think it was never questioned. Any idea of what else it might be? PS: can't imagine it going No 1 in Texas and neither in Georgia Oh, "smaller size" made sense to me, because since it's a doll, it has a heart, but just a small one. There is NO effing way this song could be #1 in MY state! Stupid conservative Texans!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeve272 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Oh, "smaller size" made sense to me, because since it's a doll, it has a heart, but just a small one. There is NO effing way this song could be #1 in MY state! Stupid conservative Texans!! Oh dear I'm moving to Austin in August! Well, if all goes according to plan, with the visa and evth..I'm going to UT Can't wait!!! Are you near Austin? It's such a cool place! (sorry, totally off topic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiobi Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I doubt it that any of those songs will be a great hit here.. Maybe good gone girl, but according to everyone's patterns... Arses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I'm sure he says smaller (or smallest) size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessa Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I doubt it that any of those songs will be a great hit here.. Maybe good gone girl, but according to everyone's patterns... Arses. And we've already heard 5 songs from the album and i think we need a poll to see which new songs are everyones favourite/s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiobi Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 And we've already heard 5 songs from the album and i think we need a poll to see which new songs are everyones favourite/s? Yeah that's a good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Simpson Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 And we've already heard 5 songs from the album and i think we need a poll to see which new songs are everyones favourite/s? I guess that's the 4 from the Roxy and Rain. Then there's gospel choir one. Have we given up on HMDYLM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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