Dreamy_Queen Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I can't wait. I even didn't read translation to have my own opinion after reading the original. Yet several days - and I will burst with curiousity and go read translation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faballa Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I can't wait. I even didn't read translation to have my own opinion after reading the original. Yet several days - and I will burst with curiousity and go read translation Same me, I wait for Mika's own words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Clay Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) 1. I'll find a cannon. The ashes of Hunter S. Thompson, the legendary American writer, were fired with a cannon from the top of a mountain in Colorado. Lighting the fuse was none other than Johnny Depp. It's a nice way to go. But forget Depp, don't know. Why spend so much money in a grave to be remembered? Better a story like this that goes around the world and will remain in memory. Periodic eye, this does not mean that he died in 2011. I just want a gun. A little 'theatricality of post mortem is not bad. The event MIKA references . . . FUNERAL On August 20, 2005, in a private ceremony, Thompson's ashes were fired from a cannon atop a 153-foot (47 m) tower of his own design (in the shape of a double-thumbed fist clutching a peyote button) to the tune of Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit in the Sky" and Bob Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man."[34] Red, white, blue, and green fireworks were launched along with his ashes. As the city of Aspen would not allow the cannon to remain for more than a month, the cannon has been dismantled and put into storage until a suitable permanent location can be found. According to his widow Anita, Thompson's funeral was financed by actor Johnny Depp, a close friend of Thompson. Depp told the Associated Press, "All I'm doing is trying to make sure his last wish comes true. I just want to send my pal out the way he wants to go out."[34] Other famous attendees at the funeral included U.S. Senator John Kerry[citation needed] and former U.S. Senator George McGovern; 60 Minutes correspondents Ed Bradley and Charlie Rose; actors Jack Nicholson, Bill Murray, Benicio del Toro, Sean Penn, and Josh Hartnett; singers Lyle Lovett, John Oates and numerous other friends. An estimated 280 people attended the funeral. The plans for this monument were initially drawn by Thompson and Ralph Steadman and were shown as part of an Omnibus program on the BBC entitled Fear and Loathing in Gonzovision (1978). It is included as a special feature on the second disc of the 2003 Criterion Collection DVD release of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, labeled on the DVD as "Fear and Loathing on the Road to Hollywood." REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson Edited January 11, 2011 by A. Clay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mari62 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thank you Alice! We always learn something new thanks to Mika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucrezia Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 The event MIKA references . . . FUNERAL On August 20, 2005, in a private ceremony, Thompson's ashes were fired from a cannon atop a 153-foot (47 m) tower of his own design (in the shape of a double-thumbed fist clutching a peyote button) to the tune of Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit in the Sky" and Bob Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man."[34] Red, white, blue, and green fireworks were launched along with his ashes. As the city of Aspen would not allow the cannon to remain for more than a month, the cannon has been dismantled and put into storage until a suitable permanent location can be found. According to his widow Anita, Thompson's funeral was financed by actor Johnny Depp, a close friend of Thompson. Depp told the Associated Press, "All I'm doing is trying to make sure his last wish comes true. I just want to send my pal out the way he wants to go out."[34] Other famous attendees at the funeral included U.S. Senator John Kerry[citation needed] and former U.S. Senator George McGovern; 60 Minutes correspondents Ed Bradley and Charlie Rose; actors Jack Nicholson, Bill Murray, Benicio del Toro, Sean Penn, and Josh Hartnett; singers Lyle Lovett, John Oates and numerous other friends. An estimated 280 people attended the funeral. The plans for this monument were initially drawn by Thompson and Ralph Steadman and were shown as part of an Omnibus program on the BBC entitled Fear and Loathing in Gonzovision (1978). It is included as a special feature on the second disc of the 2003 Criterion Collection DVD release of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, labeled on the DVD as "Fear and Loathing on the Road to Hollywood." REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson Thanks Alice!! I remember it very well!! Johnny Depp was a great friend of Thompson and recentely he read, to remember his death, some letters that he received from Hunter S. Thompson... If you want to see: Part 1: Part 2: Part 3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daydreambeliever Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thank you Alice!We always learn something new thanks to Mika Yes, thanks Alice! And yep, we always learn LOTS from Mika! At least, I do. He always makes me feel like such an idiot with all the things he knows. Or maybe I'm just stupid. And thanks for the translation, Christine! Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mari62 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Yes, thanks Alice! And yep, we always learn LOTS from Mika! At least, I do. He always makes me feel like such an idiot with all the things he knows. Or maybe I'm just stupid. And thanks for the translation, Christine! Much appreciated. well, there's no need to feel stupid, we might know different things, mightn't we? There are too many news out there and we can't possibly know everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 The original's been posted: http://videodrome-xl.blogautore.repubblica.it/2011/01/12/mika-pop-up-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANI56 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 http://videodrome-xl.blogautore.repubblica.it/2011/01/12/mika-pop-up-2/ "You’ve obviously realised by now that this issue is about Glam. By the time you’ve finished reading this magazine (or just looking at the pictures) you would have had enough bright coloured lipstick, smeared sequins and alter egos to last you the rest of 2011. Imagine if you had woken up in the early hours of 2011 lying on the floor, dressed in a blue catsuit with glitter in your hair and a puddle of drool under the corner of your mouth. Well that mess was me on the 1st of Jan and the Glam rock themed new years party which preceded this ugly scene was to blame. That is the reason why I don’t feel like writing about Glam. Instead this article will be far more traditional; the ultimate new years resolution list. Trust me, I need one. Resolution Number ONE; I shall find myself a canon. After the death of the legendary american writer Hunter S Thompson, his ashes were exploded out of a canon on top of a mountain in Colorado. None other than Johnny Depp lit the taper. This is a very very good way to go. Forget Johnny Depp tho, I don’t know him. Why spend so much money on a burial plot when a story like that will travel for so far and for so long. Please note, my resolution makes no implication that I will die in 2011, I just want a canon. A little post life theatre can’t be a bad thing. Resolution Number TWO; Be Kind Not Nice. Who likes Nice? Nice isn’t sexy nor is it honest. People are only nice when they want something or when they just want to get you out of the way. Being nice is like being drunk too many times in a week. You feel tired, anaesthetised and very angry underneath. Kind, is sincere and takes more effort. The plus side is that you don’t have to do it as often. It does take a lot more control however, and that takes discipline. But we all know that discipline makes you feel better about yourself. So, being nice makes you feel like **** and being kind makes you feel good and zen like. Be careful to not be too pious however, then everyone thinks your just a self satisfied prick. Resolution Number THREE; Embrace The Posse. I went to see a play about Onassis recently and one thing struck me. Very rarely during the two hour show was he ever shown without an entourage. He reminded me of my Arab friends who always go out it groups, or of rappers who’s entourage impose a sense of importance and inconvenience on everyone around them, which is the point I think. I come from a Lebanese background, with a big and very close family. Hardly ever do I go anywhere for work or play, where I am not surrounded by at least 3 or four people. Often this entourage has made me feel uncomfortable. As if, more could be achieved or observed If I were more subtle in my movements. This year I shall embrace my crew. Even if my entourage is not as cool as a rapper’s or as powerful as Onassis’, I shall walk walk around with my sisters, friends, dog, a couple 80 year old family members and of course my mother, all in line and with our heads held high. Resolution Number FOUR; Find A Henchman. Ok so this is a bit of a continuation of number three but still merits its own resolution. I want a chinese looking, quiet and elegant, quite small gentleman, in a suit and tie, preferably in his mid thirties, to follow me around, everywhere. He shouldn’t say to much but must have a doctorate in something obscure, like the behaviour of a subspecies of amazonian red ant. He will be my confidant, the other part of my brain, my filter to people I cross. He will frighten the seedy and reassure the wise. Aplications welcome. Resolution Number FIVE; Work All The Time. You know those self help guides that tell you to take lots of holiday and spend time away from work? Well, their bull****. Those guides are written by self promoting workaholic who want you to buy their books, feel crap again and then buy another one. When you don’t work enough you fell like terrible. The things that you used to look forward to, like a drink after work or a favourite TV show, no longer have the same appeal. The more you work the more you value everything and everyone around you. At my age how could this be a bad thing? I hope I inspire you. I think I’ve inspired myself. Feel free to borrow some of my resolutions and make them your own, just stay away from the henchman idea, if everyone gets one, it could get a little confusing. Happy new year! Nota Benne, that was said with kindness, I’m not being nice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANI56 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 The original's been posted: http://videodrome-xl.blogautore.repubblica.it/2011/01/12/mika-pop-up-2/ at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Snap Dani Always interesting to read the original from a wannabe translator's point-of-view, there's lots of things I would've translated differently (naturally, seeing as I'm a native English speaker, and not an Italian). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamy_Queen Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Great, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! *rushes to read* edit dressed in a blue catsuit with glitter in your hair - I would like to see him dressed this way! Edited January 12, 2011 by Dreamy_Queen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeiRe Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANI56 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Snap Dani Always interesting to read the original from a wannabe translator's point-of-view, there's lots of things I would've translated differently (naturally, seeing as I'm a native English speaker, and not an Italian). ma la traduzione di henchman è valletto?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 ma la traduzione di henchman è valletto?!?!?!? Secondo me henchman ha delle connotazioni piuttosto negative, per esempio, può essere qualcuno che fa dei lavori per i criminali, tipo qualcuno che fa parte di un gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarina Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Always interesting to read the original from a wannabe translator's point-of-view, there's lots of things I would've translated differently (naturally, seeing as I'm a native English speaker, and not an Italian). I'm italian but I agree with you...the translation is not so accurate IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucrezia Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Secondo me henchman ha delle connotazioni piuttosto negative, per esempio, può essere qualcuno che fa dei lavori per i criminali, tipo qualcuno che fa parte di un gang. Esatto... "scagnozzo" o "seguace"... valletto non ce lo vedo proprio come traduzione Henchman is an obedient or unscrupulous follower so the italian translation "Valletto" isn't right Edited January 12, 2011 by Lucrezia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Oooki doki, just read the original version, and what can I say? L-O-V-E-D it! It's the Mika I like the most: silly, yet smart, and with a great sense of humour, joining in the same list serious subjects and crazy ideas. One of my fave columns so far! And yes Mika, you are inspiring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarina Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Secondo me henchman ha delle connotazioni piuttosto negative, per esempio, può essere qualcuno che fa dei lavori per i criminali, tipo qualcuno che fa parte di un gang. O magari è inteso come qualcuno che ti segue senza esitazione uno che è totalmente soggiogato da te o mentalmente brainwashato? Su wordreference lo traduce come seguace...come concetto ci sta... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I'm italian but I agree with you...the translation is not so accurate IMO! Esatto... "scagnozzo" o "seguace"... valletto non ce lo vedo proprio come traduzione I agree. I'm not too convinced about the 'kind' and 'nice' bit either, to me the Italian conveyed a different meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 O magari è inteso come qualcuno che ti segue senza esitazione uno che è totalmente soggiogato da te o mentalmente brainwashato? Su wordreference lo traduce come seguace...come concetto ci sta... Ecco, brava, quel senso là. Comunque è decisamente più 'negativo' di valletto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucrezia Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 O magari è inteso come qualcuno che ti segue senza esitazione uno che è totalmente soggiogato da te o mentalmente brainwashato? Su wordreference lo traduce come seguace...come concetto ci sta... Ecco, brava, quel senso là. Comunque è decisamente più 'negativo' di valletto. Sono d'accordo con voi!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarina Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sono d'accordo con voi!! Ecco, brava, quel senso là. Comunque è decisamente più 'negativo' di valletto. Si, senz'altro più negativa come parola. Valletto è un servitore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamy_Queen Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Oooki doki, just read the original version, and what can I say? L-O-V-E-D it! It's the Mika I like the most: silly, yet smart, and with a great sense of humour, joining in the same list serious subjects and crazy ideas. One of my fave columns so far! And yes Mika, you are inspiring! I had such a great time reading it! Amazing article! Reread each sentence twice, to savour every word. It's so far the best article! :thumb_yello: Hope he won't really find a chinese follower to hang around all the time He will become identity mad. Or he is really dreaming about OFB-like fellow? He said: I'm happy on my own, beautiful liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Sky Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I really like this article, it shows the Mika we knew back in the day, I think. Slightly offbeat and amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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