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hehe If you're implying that I am a linguist, or speech therapist: I certainly appreciate the sentiment! ;) -- I guess you could say I'm an amateur linguist, and lyric-interpretation enthusiast.

 

I personally feel that songs with subjective / generalized meanings, or that are loaded with double entendres have a better chance of being successful by appealing to a wider culture-base; and the artists that write them are brilliant. :)

 

If you're referring to the falsetto part I think you are (during the chorus over the repeated "One Foot Boy"s,) that will be a challenge indeed.

However I think a clue would be that Mika's music is generally by-the-book classical, (music-theory-wise,) and since the end of "One Foot Boy" is a standard choral canon, what he's singing there is very likely a slower (albeit higher pitched) lyric, refrained from elsewhere in the song.

 

I'll try to figure it out! :thumb_yello:

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I personally feel that songs with subjective / generalized meanings, or that are loaded with double entendres have a better chance of being successful by appealing to a wider culture-base; and the artists that write them are brilliant. :) :

 

Yes, I fully agree with this point. However, in order to win fans from a wider culture-base these songs would probably need to be released as singles so that these songs get airplay, too...

 

If you're referring to the falsetto part I think you are (during the chorus over the repeated "One Foot Boy"s,) that will be a challenge indeed.

However I think a clue would be that Mika's music is generally by-the-book classical, (music-theory-wise,) and since the end of "One Foot Boy" is a standard choral canon, what he's singing there is very likely a slower (albeit higher pitched) lyric, refrained from elsewhere in the song.

 

I'll try to figure it out! :thumb_yello:

 

Believe me, we have tried everything (510 posts on the One Foot Boy Lyrics dicussion thread) but no conclusion - or not one I accepted anyway :teehee:

 

Thank you very much for trying :thumb_yello:

PS: It starts from 0:58

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Yes, we did listen carefully and that was actually our first version until we saw the lyrics published in the CD booklet. :dunno:

 

We worked this out before the lyrics were published. It's just that some people were still dubious, as they are now apparently. :naughty:

 

”Filled until the last” contains 2 more syllables than ”filled with lust” , so taking that into consideration I’d go for more syllables as that is what I can hear…

 

It would make sense to me, actually. It would be a reference to someone taking each and every opportunity that comes along her way and in general, a girl who is over the top.

 

Mika throws in extra syllables all the time. It's just one of his vocal idiosyncrasies and it's totally predictable at this point since we've heard him do it dozens of times.

 

Filled with lust makes the most sense because it doesn't just rhyme with double D bust, it matches it in meaning. It's basically a euphemism for a porn film.

 

So, I think GGG is also a great example of complex lyrics that have several layers of interpretation, like Toy Boy or Stuck In the Middle…

 

Yeah I agree. I hope one day he manages to combine the catchy current pop melodies with really clever lyrics more consistently. Toy Boy and GGG are the best songs on the album lyrically but they had no chance of ever becoming singles.

 

ohhhhh, when you put it that way it does make sense, but i still do think that its "like a movie that is filled with lust" i just dont hear the other words

 

Yeah me either. We had the lyrics wrong based on the poor audio in live recordings but as soon as I got the album I knew there was something wrong with the interpretation. I listened to it over and over again until I realized it was "filled with lust" and suddenly it clicked and sounded right.

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We worked this out before the lyrics were published. It's just that some people were still dubious, as they are now apparently. :naughty:

well, I would accept it if native speakers were all on the same opinion but because they aren't this is still a question mark for me... Never mind. I like question marks...:teehee:

Also, we have often seen evidence of printed lyrics differing from the words Mika is actually singing - eg. desparate 'air' vs 'stare'...etc.

 

I hope one day he manages to combine the catchy current pop melodies with really clever lyrics more consistently.

yes, that's what I hope, too, among many other things concerning his music. :thumb_yello:

 

Toy Boy and GGG are the best songs on the album lyrically but they had no chance of ever becoming singles.

 

I understand Toy Boy had no chance of ever becoming a single but why not GGG?

I mean, yes, I doubt there will be another single release from TBWKTM but if I ever had the chance to suggest songs for singles, I most definitely wouldn't have excluded GGG.

Of course releasing two singles with 'girls' in their titles wouldn't have been wise but if I had to choose between the album versions of BIOTG and GGG to be released as singles, I would have voted for GGG (as you might remember I miss the horns in BIOTG:biggrin2:)

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well, I would accept it if native speakers were all on the same opinion but because they aren't this is still a question mark for me... Never mind. I like question marks...:teehee:

Also, we have often seen evidence of printed lyrics differing from the words Mika is actually singing - eg. desparate 'air' vs 'stare'...etc.

 

 

yes, that's what I hope, too, among many other things concerning his music. :thumb_yello:

 

 

 

I understand Toy Boy had no chance of ever becoming a single but why not GGG?

I mean, yes, I doubt there will be another single release from TBWKTM but if I ever had the chance to suggest songs for singles, I most definitely wouldn't have excluded GGG.

Of course releasing two singles with 'girls' in their titles wouldn't have been wise but if I had to choose between the album versions of BIOTG and GGG to be released as singles, I would have voted for GGG (as you might remember I miss the horns in BIOTG:biggrin2:)

 

Mika said on the radio that Good Gone Girl wasn't going to be a single but that he wants it to be played on the radio...and picked it for the show he was in...and that made me very happy!:blush-anim-cl: Good gone girl must be one of Mika's fav too as that's the only song he twitted about and said how pleased he was with how it sounded! I agree :fangurl:

That was the night when he was covering "i guess that's why they call it the blues" on the radio.

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well, I would accept it if native speakers were all on the same opinion but because they aren't this is still a question mark for me... Never mind. I like question marks...:teehee:

Also, we have often seen evidence of printed lyrics differing from the words Mika is actually singing - eg. desparate 'air' vs 'stare'...etc.

 

I was certain before the lyrics were printed. I don't care what the other native speakers think especially since there are native speakers who will still argue with you that it's not Mika speaking at the intro of BIOTG. :teehee:

 

I understand Toy Boy had no chance of ever becoming a single but why not GGG?

 

It's way too old fashioned, production wise. It sounds like a demo where Mika is just demonstrating the melody with a piano. I mean compare it with Kick-Ass...? :dunno:

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Mika said on the radio that Good Gone Girl wasn't going to be a single but that he wants it to be played on the radio...and picked it for the show he was in...and that made me very happy!:blush-anim-cl:

 

yes, I am sure Mika likes this song and I would have really liked to hear him sing it more often at tv shows, too instead of singing the singles .

and the performance with Ida (the Queen of the Night aria as intro) in Milan was sooo fantastic - a kind of glorious moment:wub2:

I wish I had been there last night..

 

It's way too old fashioned, production wise. It sounds like a demo where Mika is just demonstrating the melody with a piano. I mean compare it with Kick-Ass...? :dunno:

 

I actually thought that you meant that, just wanted you to confirm..:teehee:

 

So, my point is that I would really like to hear songs with ’old fashioned’ type of production to be released as singles, too… :blush-anim-cl: They do work for some artists. Macca’s latest single I heard was pretty much old-fashioned production-wise, too... I know he has a different audience but I do not believe that just because Mika is a young artist and he plays pop music it should be assumed that he has a mainly teenage audience…

If I were a decision maker, I would map his fanbase properly as I think his fanbase is demographically broad-based but their preferences are usually not the latest mainstream acts.

Also, I really wonder whether it would have been this ’modern’ sounding BIOTG or the release of an ’old-fashioned version (:trumpet:) that would have appealed to more people. :dunno:

We’ll never know now but I really think that the choice of singles with TBWKTM should have been thought out a bit more systematically as at the moment the singles do not really represent Mika’s repertoire. I think the ones ’they’ (don’t know who) thought were most appealing to a wide audience were selected vs the unique ones Mika audience seems to prefer.

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I think the ones ’they’ (don’t know who) thought were most appealing to a wide audience were selected vs the unique ones Mika audience seems to prefer.

 

But who is Mika's audience? I don't know 99.9% of the people who buy his albums or what they're thinking. And if our polls - on favourite songs from TBWKTM/which single you want to hear next - are any indication, even MFCers have widely varying preferences when it comes to favourite songs.

 

WAG is a huge hit at the gigs and Mika saw fit to drop One Foot Boy from his setlist, so clearly a lot of fans prefer WAG. I expected BIOTG to be THE single from the moment I heard it and I think a lot of MFCers expected Rain to be very popular so I don't think the record company's choices and the fans choices are too far apart.

 

I think the lyrics of GGG are great but it's still lacking something as a song IMO.

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But who is Mika's audience? I don't know 99.9% of the people who buy his albums or what they're thinking. And if our polls - on favourite songs from TBWKTM/which single you want to hear next - are any indication, even MFCers have widely varying preferences when it comes to favourite songs.

 

WAG is a huge hit at the gigs and Mika saw fit to drop One Foot Boy from his setlist, so clearly a lot of fans prefer WAG. I expected BIOTG to be THE single from the moment I heard it and I think a lot of MFCers expected Rain to be very popular so I don't think the record company's choices and the fans choices are too far apart.

 

I think the lyrics of GGG are great but it's still lacking something as a song IMO.

 

I would agree, but I vowed that I would never again express an opinion on what would be a huge hit when Rain charted at #72 in the UK

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But who is Mika's audience? I don't know 99.9% of the people who buy his albums or what they're thinking.

I think it is not that difficult to find out, although can be expensive. It might be just an urban legend but I heard that some artists remix / rewrite / change songs on their future album releases based on results of focus group discussions…:dunno:

I am most definitely not saying that this should be the way forward to Mika as I would hate to know that his artistic freedom is compromised based on some vague market research but choosing the right single can be tested, I think.

 

WAG is a huge hit at the gigs and Mika saw fit to drop One Foot Boy from his setlist, so clearly a lot of fans prefer WAG.

Both songs are great. In my opinion, the answer to this seeming contradiction is the way they sound live. The single choice should be based on people’s perception when they listen to the recorded version. As far as I remember few of us liked WAG first, so MFCs prediction proved right on that.

 

I vowed that I would never again express an opinion on what would be a huge hit when Rain charted at #72 in the UK

I think Rain’s low chart position in the UK was the direct consequence of WAG and consequently the album not performing as expected, and I still think that had Rain been released right after the realisation that WAG might not have been the perfect choice for first single, it would have done much better, along with the album.

..and Blue Eyes would have also been a great choice for single, I think, if it hadn’t already been released previously on SFS. But that’s just one opinion, of course. Who knows what would have happened if it had happened… :teehee:

 

 

PS:I'm sorry for being off- topic on this thread. Now I really feel :insane: for repeating the same things again and again:biggrin2:

 

 

Back to GGG - any thoughts on how the Mozart aria fitted as an intro for the song in Milan? :pinkbow:

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WAG is still popular in the UK- like GK it keeps popping up though it's not in the charts any more.

 

Mika has said repeatedly that he's primarily interested in pop though he likes to play about with other stuff. To me releasing GGG as a single would make it very easy to categorise him as Easy Listening (which is death to any pop singer and the direction he unfortunatley seems to be heading in the UK) as both lyrically and musically it's very dated without being weirdly retrospective or having any great depth of emotion to pull it back. It's a fun song, and I enjoy it- but if he truly wants to be a pop singer it would be a bad move to release it as a single IMO.

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I personally really love Good Gone Girl, it's one of my favourite tracks on the album. It's fast paced, it's fun to sing-a-long to, it's poppy, and I think it's catchy. To me, it's like a summer tune. I remember playing it in my room quite loudly, the sun was shining through my window and there wasn't a cloud in the sky. I seem to find that songs feel better/different depending on weather. I know that sounds f*cking nuts, but I like the album as a whole more now simply because it's approaching summertime :dunno:

 

Anyway, before I sound like a complete freak :freak: I will move on.

Would it be a good single? I don't know. I thought Rain and Blame It On The Girls would be good singles but look where they ended up :dunno: And I still don't really understand why they didn't do that well...lack of promotion didn't help...but how do you go from a Number One Album with a Number One Single and a string of Top Ten Hits to releasing singles that both reached Number 72?

Mika wasn't really around to promote Happy Ending but that still reached number 7 on it's own :dunno:

 

Back in 2007 radios were happier to play him because he was "The Next Big Thing" but now he's been in the business for 3 years people discard him like last night's dinner :huh: I don't really know what can be done to improve the situation.

 

As for the live version of GGG, I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't as funky as the studio version. I prefer the album version, but I liked the ending of the live one where Mika and iMMa do a little dance :pinkbow:

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I personally really love Good Gone Girl, it's one of my favourite tracks on the album. It's fast paced, it's fun to sing-a-long to, it's poppy, and I think it's catchy. To me, it's like a summer tune. I remember playing it in my room quite loudly, the sun was shining through my window and there wasn't a cloud in the sky. I seem to find that songs feel better/different depending on weather. I know that sounds f*cking nuts, but I like the album as a whole more now simply because it's approaching summertime :dunno:

 

Anyway, before I sound like a complete freak :freak: I will move on.

Would it be a good single? I don't know. I thought Rain and Blame It On The Girls would be good singles but look where they ended up :dunno: And I still don't really understand why they didn't do that well...lack of promotion didn't help...but how do you go from a Number One Album with a Number One Single and a string of Top Ten Hits to releasing singles that both reached Number 72?

Mika wasn't really around to promote Happy Ending but that still reached number 7 on it's own :dunno:

 

Back in 2007 radios were happier to play him because he was "The Next Big Thing" but now he's been in the business for 3 years people discard him like last night's dinner :huh: I don't really know what can be done to improve the situation.

 

As for the live version of GGG, I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't as funky as the studio version. I prefer the album version, but I liked the ending of the live one where Mika and iMMa do a little dance :pinkbow:

 

It is one of my favorite songs!! Wish he would have played it when he was here in the states. It was the first song in a lllooonnnggg time I came up with a dance. Which I did standing in queue in Philly while HollyD lip synced for her life :biggrin2:

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As for the live version of GGG, I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't as funky as the studio version. I prefer the album version, but I liked the ending of the live one where Mika and iMMa do a little dance :pinkbow:

 

I actually loved the live version on the UK tour - both the beginning and the end -, really sad I never got to see Ida sing the intro on the European tour :sad:

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I actually loved the live version on the UK tour - both the beginning and the end -, really sad I never got to see Ida sing the intro on the European tour :sad:
same here, I loved the version with Ida on the arena tour so much! :mf_lustslow:
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Seems like not only MFCers know this song :blink:

 

not bad!

mayb one of the guys in the group *is* an MFCer and he suggested/insisted the group do the song..:aah:

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Seems like not only MFCers know this song :blink:

 

they're good:naughty:I love Good Gone Girl:teehee:one of my first Mika's song I've ever heard:mf_rosetinted:it was on a tv commercial in my country:mf_rosetinted:

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