Anna Ko Kolkowska Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, Anna Ko Kolkowska said: I will write more tomorrow. It's late now. Today just two photos of Marc-Olivier Fogiel's book. And his thank you to Mika. The movie was based on his book "Qu'est ce qu'elle a ma famille ?" Which can be translated as "What problem do you have with my family?". Or in a different way "We have a normal family". I don't know much about the surrogate pregnancy and my vocabulary on this subject is poor. So I will not go too deep into it. In most of European countries - like in France - this program is illegal. Some of you know that Marc-Olivier is Mika's friend for many years. He is gay and lives with his husband Francois. They have two daughters born in USA thanks to a surrogate program which is legal in certains states. In his book he tells his own story but as well stories of several couples - hetero and homosexual. He didn't write it for himself but for all there families and for those who are looking the way to become parent. Yesterday Mika was watching on France 2 a movie based on Marc-Oliveir's book. As we had our Insta Live I was able to watch only the second part. It was telling two stories: one - based on Marc-Olivier and Francois case - names were changed, the surrogate program was in Kanada not USA. The second story was about a couple which couldn't have their own children and they decided as well to take a chance in a surrogate program. From the book and from the movie we can learn about problems people have to overcome. We can see how they struggle with the system, with the law, but as well with their own psychological ups and downs while going through long months/years of the battle. When I read the book in 2018 I thought that it can be a milestone in the process of changes. And I think I was right. Now we have a movie followed by a debate in the TV studio with a heterosexual woman, a gay who made the same way as Marc-Olivier, a grandmother of surrogate pregnancy twins, an anthropologist and a woman - deputy in the french government. The conversation showed this big imbalance between point of view of the citizens wanting to have children and the government which tries first of all not allow the commercialisation of human body and children trade. Edited February 10, 2022 by Anna Ko Kolkowska 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aki Celeste Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Anna Ko Kolkowska said: I don't know much about the surrogate pregnancy and my vocabulary on this subject is poor. So I will not go too deep into it. In most of European countries - like in France - this program is illegal. I'm not very knowledgeable myself on this topic - I didn't even know that it was illegal in most parts of Europe! - but it's one that's interested me over the years. I'm actually trying to address the topic somewhat in one of my current writing projects, so it's super interesting to me that Mika is shining a spotlight on his friend at this time. I feel like this topic is still considered somewhat taboo, or at least is not often discussed, even while it's legal here in the US. Does anyone remember that show The New Normal (helmed by Ryan Murphy, the show-runner for Glee)? That's pretty much the only "mainstream" media depiction of surrogacy, specifically for gay couples, that I can recall seeing over the past 10 years, and I'm not sure how well it landed with its viewers. It's encouraging to hear that Marc-Olivier and François are raising further awareness around this highly fraught issue, and I hope it continues to open up conversations that don't devolve into hate or misguided judgment on people who already have enough obstacles to parenthood set up for them as it is. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreacher Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Thanks for explaining more @Anna Ko Kolkowska I didn't think I even knew surrogacy was illegal anywhere. Is surrogacy illegal just for gay couples or for everyone? 1 hour ago, Aki Celeste said: I feel like this topic is still considered somewhat taboo, or at least is not often discussed, even while it's legal here in the US. Does anyone remember that show The New Normal (helmed by Ryan Murphy, the show-runner for Glee)? That's pretty much the only "mainstream" media depiction of surrogacy, specifically for gay couples, that I can recall seeing over the past 10 years, and I'm not sure how well it landed with its viewers. i remember this show! I watched it every week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prisca Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, kreacher said: Is surrogacy illegal just for gay couples or for everyone? It's illegal for everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Prisca said: It's illegal for everyone. Seems its legal in the UK via non-profit clinics, but there's an issue in that the law doesn't recognise the surrogacy agreement so if one party changes their mind there's no resolution. 🙄 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Ko Kolkowska Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, kreacher said: Thanks for explaining more @Anna Ko Kolkowska I didn't think I even knew surrogacy was illegal anywhere. Is surrogacy illegal just for gay couples or for everyone? Yes, as mentioned @Prisca it's illegal for everyone. There are big surrogacy clinics in Ukraine. As well in India. Used to be in Vietnam. Usually women from these countries "sell" their bodies for living. For single men and homosexual couples in France (well, maybe in other countries as well) adoption is quasi impossible. So if they want to have children they have to go to USA or Canada or Ukraine. It's a long process and it costs a lot of money. You have to pay for all medical care and usually the surrogate stops working and has to take care of herself, so the future parents pay all costs/charges for her. As it was said yesterday in the debate for ex. un USA there are many surrogates who are Christians and they just want to help others to have babies - it's not about the money. More than 50% of future parents are gay couples. The other rest are heterosexual couples with fertility or medical problems. Edited February 10, 2022 by Anna Ko Kolkowska 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prisca Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I made a thread with the surrogacy and related topics so we don't do too much off topic here (I'm an expert at that ). 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Mika replies to a tweet: too early in the morning for me to find out what that is she tweeted about, a radio interview maybe? I'll do more research later when I'm awake. (unless some of you are faster) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Ko Kolkowska Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, mellody said: Mika replies to a tweet: too early in the morning for me to find out what that is she tweeted about, a radio interview maybe? I'll do more research later when I'm awake. (unless some of you are faster) It's 3 hours of music "Une carte postale de Laroie" with a "view on Mika". I am listening to the program so for the moment I don't know how much time is dedicated for Mika. https://ici.radio-canada.ca/ohdio/musique/emissions/5123/leffetpogonat EDIT: I found the playlist of this program. One Mika song. 11 h 13 Titre : GRACE KELLY Interprète(s) : MIKA Album : MIKA: LIFE IN CARTOON MOTION Compositeur(s) : DAN WARNER, MIKA, JODI MARR, JOHN MERCHANT Maison de disque : UNIVERSAL Edited February 11, 2022 by Anna Ko Kolkowska 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, Anna Ko Kolkowska said: It's 3 hours of music "Une carte postale de Laroie" with a "view on Mika". I am listening to the program so for the moment I don't know how much time is dedicated for Mika. https://ici.radio-canada.ca/ohdio/musique/emissions/5123/leffetpogonat EDIT: I found the playlist of this program. One Mika song. 11 h 13 Titre : GRACE KELLY Interprète(s) : MIKA Album : MIKA: LIFE IN CARTOON MOTION Compositeur(s) : DAN WARNER, MIKA, JODI MARR, JOHN MERCHANT Maison de disque : UNIVERSAL Ah, so all she's doing is play Grace Kelly in her radio show? Well maybe at least she talked a bit about him too, that he's hosting Eurovision and coming to French festivals in summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prisca Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) Mika IG post (the dates for Verona) And Mika tweet: And Mika IG story : Edited February 11, 2022 by Prisca 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aki Celeste Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/3/2022 at 7:03 AM, Mikasister said: Mika stories 18468668398F36156C905C3C0C52AAA1_transcode_output_dashinit.mp4 1141678E043FB6CA759BD7E7737231A6_transcode_output_dashinit.mp4 Perhaps a topic for another thread, but what do people think the origin of The Magic Piano for a tour name is? My mind immediately went to Mozart's The Magic Flute, but I'm curious to hear other theories/stories that I might have missed out on. Most of his previous tour names seem pretty relevant to his life journey/career in one way or another - maybe it's a continued homage to his roots in classical/opera? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prisca Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 New Mika IG story FB47577ACDE4DCA408235D341151A187_transcode_output_dashinit.mp4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinyLove_CJ Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 He really is teasing us lately! 😁 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Prisca said: New Mika IG story FB47577ACDE4DCA408235D341151A187_transcode_output_dashinit.mp4 Whatever it is, I like it! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hero Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) Story.. mikainstagram2772339069015218889_179779999.mp4 He's in the UK! Edited February 12, 2022 by Hero 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 46 minutes ago, Hero said: Story.. mikainstagram2772339069015218889_179779999.mp4 781.87 kB · 0 downloads He's in the UK! It's funny how this Instagram font seems to be different on different phones, or maybe in different versions of Instagram... I couldn't figure out whether it was Cotswolds or Catswalds - tho meanwhile I realized I could've told from the "o" in "good". Anyway I entered it in a story draft with that font, to see which one it is, but in my font the a and the o are clearly distinguishable, although it's the same Instagram font! Anyway, looks very comfortable. I always wanted to live in a house with an open fireplace, I love the scent and the atmosphere of it, and the sound of a crackling fire. But now that I live in a house where we could have it, I just think it's too expensive and too much work, not practicable with young kids and not good for the environment. Sometimes the dreams are better if they stay dreams, but anyway I can very much relate to Mika that he loves to sit by the fire with a glass of good wine, it's beautiful. With all the books, maybe he's looking for inspiration for album covers or other visuals? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, mellody said: With all the books, maybe he's looking for inspiration for album covers or other visuals? I wonder if they're his? They might have come with the house, if it's a holiday rental. Artfully arranged on the coffee table, seems more decorative than work in progress. But, the "Love, Cecil" book sounds like he'd enjoy it: https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Love_Cecil.html?id=SVlunQAACAAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikasister Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Hero said: Story.. mikainstagram2772339069015218889_179779999.mp4 781.87 kB · 0 downloads He's in the UK! Looks comfortable and cozy place 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikasister Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Mika IG story 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikasister Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Mika IG story 524F4C2416B48395A71DD192C58A8FBE_transcode_output_dashinit.mp4 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikasister Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, Mikasister said: Mika IG story 524F4C2416B48395A71DD192C58A8FBE_transcode_output_dashinit.mp4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prisca Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mikasister said: At least it's not a moustache. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mikasister said: Mika IG story 524F4C2416B48395A71DD192C58A8FBE_transcode_output_dashinit.mp4 Love the song, Que sera 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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