Finkster Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Whoa, Jack! You and everyone else must have worked their butts off to do this. Amazing job, well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamacatt Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Great FAQ file! Kudos to all involved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Wow, awesome FAQ. I just have one to add, if I may. Who is the girl Mika's dancing with in Love Today? She's also in Grace Kelly dancing around in that old, dusty dress. I was curious about alot of those questions. So, it was a very interesting read. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouk Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 my friends dont even ask me if he is or is not they just say he is! i try to tell them that it is none our business but they keep on saying it and i get so fed up with it! I've just ignored that question. They only try to make me upset and that's too much honour for those fools. Just ignore them, so they haven't got the fun of making you furious or something.....Losers:thumbdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knollenon Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 9. Is Mika gay? Mika refuses to discuss his sexuality with the media because he considers it irrelevant, and a part of his private life that he does not feel the need to share. It has been speculated that he may be gay, but until he decides to tell the public himself, we cannot know what his sexuality is for sure. i was reading this and i have a comment .... as it is "a speculation" ... why do we have to write it? can we not leave it as the first sentence only? it says it all... no need for speculation in my opinion. other then that, great job!!! Hear Hear!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollipop_monkey Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 9. Is Mika gay? Mika refuses to discuss his sexuality with the media because he considers it irrelevant, and a part of his private life that he does not feel the need to share. It has been speculated that he may be gay, but until he decides to tell the public himself, we cannot know what his sexuality is for sure. i was reading this and i have a comment .... as it is "a speculation" ... why do we have to write it? can we not leave it as the first sentence only? it says it all... no need for speculation in my opinion.: To use the "speculation" of someone's sexuality as gossip and a trivial chatter just doesn't seem right. I know it isn't going to stop but we should think before we use that subject as idle conversation. If we leave it at just the first line, people will be like "what do you mean he doesn't feel the need to share? Five people at the gas station/in my math class/in line at Starbucks told me he was gay - how come they know?!" I don't think it hurts to admit that many media outlets have speculated that he's gay. Like it or not, when a person takes on a career that throws them into the spotlight, media (and fan) curiosity about their personal lives is part of the package. What we're doing here is stating 1) that we don't know, and 2) that whomever is curious on that given day certainly isn't the first to wonder about Mika's orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happikali Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Hhhhmmmm .... I'm happy for the 'speculation' line to be left out ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozarella Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Is MIKAs brother only seventeen? I met him in London when I was MIKAs lollipop at the hammersmith and brixton gigs. And he seemed to be atleast twenty! What year is he born? 90? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avoca Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 no, he's very young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knollenon Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 NICE!! At least one Penniman I could date!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolliepop_girl Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I'm up to the "LIFE" part... I'm working on it Thanks so much for posting and for your hard work Much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolliepop_girl Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Wow, awesome FAQ. I just have one to add, if I may. Who is the girl Mika's dancing with in Love Today? She's also in Grace Kelly dancing around in that old, dusty dress. I was curious about alot of those questions. So, it was a very interesting read. Thank you Her name is Janine (spelling?) EDIT: I think that's the one you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scut Monkey Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I only just saw this thread. No one told me that the FAQ's were up. Jack, even though you're not on the MFC at the moment I'll still say that you did a very good job of editing my section, I think that I went into way too much detail and I'm glad that you made it more concise. I still think that question 7 of the Forum FAQ should be split into two questions for clarity. Since we've had a couple requests recently for clearer guidelines onwhat is and isn't allowed, I've tried to refine or clarify some of these points. Not sure if you want to add the info here, Jack, or make additional Questions/Answers items. --Hateful language, including but not limited to racist, sexist and/or bigoted speech is prohibited here. I think that's pretty clear. No putting someone down due to their religion, sex, race, physical impairment... -- Personal insults or attacks are also prohibited Again, pretty clear, right? No mocking someone because of their appearance, or the way they speak, or the amount of time they spend on the forum, no calling someone stupid or a moron just because their opinion is different from yours, that sort of thing... And no hiding behind saying it was meant as "a joke", or or white text! Just saying you didn't mean something as an insult doesn't make it any less of one. -- Posts containing obscene or pornographic material will be deleted While some may say that obscenity/pornography is subjective -- well, I guess you'll have to live with what we mods decide. We are a fairly liberal bunch, but there are some things that simply are inappropriate. -- avoid swearing, explicit sexual posts, or other content that may be inappropriate This would include posts that describe a sex act, or strongly imply one. This also includes the form of fanfiction known as "slash" -- which would be sex between a celeb and a fan. As far as swearing -- well, the forum automatically xxxx out certain words. But there are some that it doesn't catch, and you may be asked to stop using those words by a moderator. I think that homophobia should be added to the list with racism, sexism, etc. Especially since a lot of homophobic hate is directed at Mika despite the fact that no one knows his sexuality. Q. What is banning? What is an infraction? A. If the moderators "ban" a user, that means that user will not be able post on this forum. A temporary ban means that the user will not be able to post for a specific period of time -- a permanent ban is only applied if a user is persistently abusive or otherwise continuously disregards the forum guidelines. An infraction is a notice applied to a user's account to denote that they have somehow violated the forum guidelines. You'll see the infraction in the user profile, with the reason the infraction was given. In general, we do not want to ban any members, although spammers and those who post pornography will be immediately banned. In other situations, here are the general guidelines for issuing a ban. 1. If a user violates the forum guidelines, a moderator first sends a warning via a private message (PM). 2. If the user continues to disregard the warnings, an infraction is placed against the account. 3. If a user receives three infractions, they will be banned from the forum temporarily, usually for one week. 4. If, after returning from a temporary ban, a user continues their pattern of negative behavior, they may be permanently banned. I have some questions: if a member recieves an infraction, are they notified by the mods? Is an infraction the same thing as a 'referral' (the number of which you can see on a user profile)? Freddie once said something to that effect, that a referral is a warning? (If so, I have one referral yet have for some reason have never been contacted by a mod. Should I have been contacted?) I just have one to add, if I may. Who is the girl Mika's dancing with in Love Today? She's also in Grace Kelly dancing around in that old, dusty dress. Actually, that's a very good question, I never found out. Unless, of course, the person doesn't want to be credited publicly? I don't think it hurts to admit that many media outlets have speculated that he's gay. Like it or not, when a person takes on a career that throws them into the spotlight, media (and fan) curiosity about their personal lives is part of the package. What we're doing here is stating 1) that we don't know, and 2) that whomever is curious on that given day certainly isn't the first to wonder about Mika's orientation. I think that the line should stay. It lets people new to Mika know that speculation has been done and that it has so far lead to no conclusions and will most likely never lead to any conclusions. It removes any illusions from their mind that discussion of the topic is likely to lead them to a Eureka light bulb moment of discovery. (But to be fair I'll add that some people who discuss the subject do so without that expectation, and enjoy the process of analysis not the outcome of analysis.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soangel Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I can say (even though I'm no mod or expert) that referrals are when someone types your username in as having referred them to the mfc. Someone asked this in the aussie thread recently and I remember the answer. *says and steps back to let more knowledgeable ones answer* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Her name is Janine (spelling?) EDIT: I think that's the one you mean? Thanks. Anyone know who she is though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guylainem123 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 If we leave it at just the first line, people will be like "what do you mean he doesn't feel the need to share? Five people at the gas station/in my math class/in line at Starbucks told me he was gay - how come they know?!" I don't think it hurts to admit that many media outlets have speculated that he's gay. Like it or not, when a person takes on a career that throws them into the spotlight, media (and fan) curiosity about their personal lives is part of the package. What we're doing here is stating 1) that we don't know, and 2) that whomever is curious on that given day certainly isn't the first to wonder about Mika's orientation. see... if the line read "many media outlets have speculated..." then i think it is ok... right now, it just looks like we are speculating, which i don't think we are here for that. but then again, maybe it's because my 1st language is french and i understand it differently lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 see... if the line read "many media outlets have speculated..." then i think it is ok... right now, it just looks like we are speculating, which i don't think we are here for that. but then again, maybe it's because my 1st language is french and i understand it differently lol We have speculated here, and just like the media, there have been no conclusions drawn. I think it's important that newbies who are curious about his sexuality know that so they understand that there is no point in bringing it up again. No one here has an answer for them because we've already gone over it a dozen or more times and come up with nothing. If this subject isn't dealt with directly and thoroughly in the FAQ, it will just lead to continued questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozarella Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 NICE!! At least one Penniman I could date!! haha, no! he's mine;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guylainem123 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 We have speculated here, and just like the media, there have been no conclusions drawn. I think it's important that newbies who are curious about his sexuality know that so they understand that there is no point in bringing it up again. No one here has an answer for them because we've already gone over it a dozen or more times and come up with nothing. If this subject isn't dealt with directly and thoroughly in the FAQ, it will just lead to continued questions. i guess if you put it that way, then that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackViolet Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 I can't really edit the FAQs any more due to post-space constraints, but I appreciate the comments that have come in so far, and intend to incorporate them into the final version of the FAQ. I hope this version would be put up by Deano on its own page, however. I'll wait till we are official and figure out how it can be done then. --Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico_collard Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Actually, that's a very good question, I never found out. Unless, of course, the person doesn't want to be credited publicly?[/size] her name's defo Janine... Thanks. Anyone know who she is though? I assume she's a friend... for some reason I think she might be a family friend, but I don't know if that's right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdeb Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I only just saw this thread. No one told me that the FAQ's were up. Sorry -- think maybe you weren't back yet when Jack posted... but it is a sticky. (This sorta confirms my suspicions about how often people really notice the stuck threads ) I think that homophobia should be added to the list with racism, sexism, etc. Especially since a lot of homophobic hate is directed at Mika despite the fact that no one knows his sexuality. Good point. I have some questions: if a member recieves an infraction, are they notified by the mods? Is an infraction the same thing as a 'referral' (the number of which you can see on a user profile)? Freddie once said something to that effect, that a referral is a warning? (If so, I have one referral yet have for some reason have never been contacted by a mod. Should I have been contacted?) Yes, you're notified if you get an infraction. A referral is when someone uses your name as the person who referred them to the site. (IIRC, when you register, you're asked if anyone referred you.) I can't really edit the FAQs any more due to post-space constraints, but I appreciate the comments that have come in so far, and intend to incorporate them into the final version of the FAQ. I hope this version would be put up by Deano on its own page, however. I'll wait till we are official and figure out how it can be done then. Yep, that's what I'm waiting for -- that official statement. Any day now When that finally happens, then I think we'll be able to finalize this properly. dcdeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDIESDOUBLE Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Makes sense to wait until we go official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scut Monkey Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Sorry -- think maybe you weren't back yet when Jack posted... butit is a sticky. (This sorta confirms my suspicions about how often people really notice the stuck threads ) I usually only visit my subscribed threads so no, I wouldn't notice stickies often. Yes, you're notified if you get an infraction. A referral is when someone usesyour name as the person who referred them to the site. (IIRC, when you register, you're asked if anyone referred you.) Phew! *wipes brow* I have a question: how will the FAQ's be distributed? Will the FAQ's be included in the "welcome" PM when members join? Will it be in the Front Page News? Would it be possible to send a PM to everyone so that non-newbies also read the FAQ's? I ask because I think that the FAQ's could be a good way to send the message on what is appropriate and inappropriate pre-/post-gig behaviour and that meeting Mika in person is a bonus rather than something to be expected. (That's assuming of course that people will read the whole document.) You can answer that question after we're official, I just wanted it thrown in before I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdeb Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I usually only visit my subscribed threads so no, I wouldn't notice stickies often. TBH, I'm the same! I have a question: how will the FAQ's be distributed? Will the FAQ's be included in the "welcome" PM when members join? Will it be in the Front Page News? Would it be possible to send a PM to everyone so that non-newbies also read the FAQ's? I ask because I think that the FAQ's could be a good way to send the message on what is appropriate and inappropriate pre-/post-gig behaviour and that meeting Mika in person is a bonus rather than something to be expected. (That's assuming of course that people will read the whole document.) You can answer that question after we're official, I just wanted it thrown in before I forget. Actually, what you've described is what I've envisioned -- I hope it's all possible. I'd like the entire FAQ to be posted somewhere on its own -- maybe as a sticky Then I'd like there to be a link to the FAQ in the welcome that all new members get when they join. And I'd also like a mass mailing to go to the entire membership so that ALL members have the chance to read the FAQ -- I think that's possible. So... once we're official... it's on the To-Do List dcdeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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