QueenBigFat Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, crazyaboutmika said: And it's like his mother is still part of his carrier Wow. Wonderful point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanT Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 9/2/2023 at 12:11 AM, QueenBigFat said: What an extraordinary tribute to someone who sounds like she was an extraordinary person. It so captures what she taught to him….and now to all of us. Edited to add: what I see is totally about his mom and the philosophical and emotional result of her loss. From his looking at the meaning of the aging process and his questioning, to her struggles and losses (Beirut) to the things she taught him and created for him and saw about his future, to the pain and emptiness his siblings share, to questioning everything because when you are grieving your own fading or the loss of a beloved what’s the point, to: but in the light of all of this, my mother said we must still live, and celebrate life, with an exclamation point! And so that is what he is doing. Thus it is a tribute to her life, their loss, and the message she left…. Her legacy. The video enhances that message, tho there is irony in the fact that the dancing crowd does not understand the lyrics or the song (yet?) and is just there for a Mika party….and he is doing the best he can, as she inspired him to do. Yet, as someone pointed out, alone in the crowd. Those who “know” him can see what is behind his eyes. I don’t think the fans who are there are able or willing to in that moment. Or he doesn’t want to let them. I love the melody. I am captivated and deeply moved by the brilliant lyrics. And the entire gestalt of the video—lyrics in contrast to melody (as usual!), upbeat dance (dance! Dance! Dance!) beat, venue, party atmosphere, and, above it all (literally and figuratively), Mika, smiling and entertaining his fans, rips my guts out. This may well be not what the song wants me to do, but my own feelings of compassion and affection for him make me cry. Which he does to me a lot, but this was different. I cried for him. Regarding the importance of Mika's mom in her son's life, I wanted to give you this link in case you haven't seen the video of his second Eurovision press conference : At 6.20 Mika and the other presenters are asked how they reacted to being asked to present Eurovision. Mika answers at 8.00 and mentions his mom twice. ❤ 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Ko Kolkowska Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SusanT said: Regarding the importance of Mika's mom in her son's life, I wanted to give you this link in case you haven't seen the video of his second Eurovision press conference : https://youtu.be/57EhjtQlWtY At 6.20 Mika and the other presenters are asked how they reacted to being asked to present Eurovision. Mika answers at 8.00 and mentions his mom twice. ❤ Thank you for reminding about it Edited September 5, 2023 by Anna Ko Kolkowska 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBigFat Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 55 minutes ago, SusanT said: Regarding the importance of Mika's mom in her son's life, I wanted to give you this link in case you haven't seen the video of his second Eurovision press conference : At 6.20 Mika and the other presenters are asked how they reacted to being asked to present Eurovision. Mika answers at 8.00 and mentions his mom twice. ❤ Thank you so much for this. I have no idea how he kept his composure! Also this reminded me how he never uses an interview to grandstand, or take the opportunity to be showy…from what I have seen, he always answers questions with total sincerity, and works as hard to do his job in interviews as he does in performances. . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBigFat Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) After reading the Vanity Fair interview I realized the limits of my interpretation of this song: I am an American. After all, Mika chose to write this dong (no! It's not a dong! It's a song! OMG What a horrid typo!) in French, using one of the phrases that the French culture is most known for around the world. The phrase! So what I missed—correct me if I am wrong— is that of course the basic meaning of the song is: ok, yes, there are all these bad aspects to existence, all these complications, but— that's life! Accept it! Celebrate it! It comes with life, and that makes it all glorious, as difficult as some of it might be. Edited September 6, 2023 by QueenBigFat Embarrassing but funny obscene typo. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinyLove_CJ Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, QueenBigFat said: Mika chose to write this dong I know this is a typo but it did make me chuckle! After all Mika did write Lollipop and Ice Cream, and also Sweet Banana for the new album. We all know none of these songs are actually about food! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBigFat Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 You made me laugh right out loud. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyaboutmika Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 5 hours ago, TinyLove_CJ said: I know this is a typo but it did make me chuckle! After all Mika did write Lollipop and Ice Cream, and also Sweet Banana for the new album. We all know none of these songs are actually about food! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyaboutmika Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 9/5/2023 at 5:35 PM, QueenBigFat said: Wow. Wonderful point. He is keeping her spirit alive 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBigFat Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 7:49 PM, crazyaboutmika said: He is keeping her spirit alive Now that I think about it, the best tribute to his mother is…Mika himself. Who he is. Who he has become. Sigh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdingyourdrink Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 6:30 PM, QueenBigFat said: Mika chose to write this dong Why am I only seeing this now?! This is the funniest and yet most accurate typo I have come across On 9/6/2023 at 8:06 PM, TinyLove_CJ said: I know this is a typo but it did make me chuckle! After all Mika did write Lollipop and Ice Cream, and also Sweet Banana for the new album. We all know none of these songs are actually about food! This 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, holdingyourdrink said: Why am I only seeing this now?! This is the funniest and yet most accurate typo I have come across This I already was wondering why you all went on about this typo, now I just looked up that word in the dictionary... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdingyourdrink Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, mellody said: I already was wondering why you all went on about this typo, now I just looked up that word in the dictionary... It was next to “Jimmy” 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 41 minutes ago, holdingyourdrink said: It was next to “Jimmy” Jimmy isn't in my (online) dictionary, I only know thanks to you what that means... Let's see if Mika will grace us with more synonyms on his album... looks like I still have some things to learn. 🙈 ok, now how do we get back on topic? I read that Mika had the lyrics for C'est la vie printed on a paper for Chalons, but he said it was too small to read. but he got them right I think? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted September 11, 2023 Author Share Posted September 11, 2023 I was thinking today, while Mika said in one of the interviews that without the chorus it would be the most depressing / heartbreaking song... actually to me the most powerful message isn't "C'est la vie", but "life, look at me, I won't be afraid of you anymore!", which isn't in the chorus but in the bridge. I think this best sums up the positive side of the song. "C'est la vie" can be interpreted in a positive way, it's all part of life, the good and the bad sides - but I always saw this expression more like a resignation, "that's how it is, just accept it" - and this isn't a very positive message imo. While the conclusion to not be afraid of life anymore has a clearly positive message to me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBigFat Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) Yes, yes, yes! Positive in general, and as a touching, to those of us who care about him but who are not in his life…as a statement that Mika is making about himself. I mean, after that horrid childhood, the discomfort of being harassed about his sexuality, and his own internalized, personal journey with being gay…and the personal struggles he has spoken of (how his fans saved him, his shyness, etc) …and those he hadn't spoken of….it is a victory! Edited September 11, 2023 by QueenBigFat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 19 hours ago, mellody said: I already was wondering why you all went on about this typo, now I just looked up that word in the dictionary... You made me look it up as well, best typo ever I can add it to the list of totally useless words I learned here. (And with useless I'm not referring to the meaning of these words, just that I won't be able to use them at work) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBigFat Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) Oh, wait! Wasn't there another famous gay singer who wrote…. I write the dongs that make the whole world sing I write the dongs of love and special things I write the dongs that make the young girls cry I write the dongs, I write the dongs…. Ok, ok, sorry, it popped into my head and I couldn't resist… Edited September 11, 2023 by QueenBigFat Ohno. Now that song is an earworm. Help me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumazzz Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Here is the official subtitles TXT files from C’est la Vie (Official Music Video) French [French] MIKA - C’est la Vie (Official Music Video).txt C’est quoi le beau C’est quoi le laid C’est quoi le faux C’est quoi le vrai Qu’est ce que tout ça vient faire ici C’est quoi ? C’est quoi la mort Les vies d’avant C’est quoi la pluie Quoi le beau temps C’est quoi c’qui arrive droit devant C’est quoi ces rides Sur mon visage Pourquoi elles viennent Cafter mon âge Même si vieillir est un naufrage C’est quoi ? C’est quoi ces fleurs et son amour Mes frères et soeurs et leurs coeurs lourds Placard fermé à double tour Parce que c’est ça la vie Parce que c’est ça Parce que c’est ça la vie Parce que c’est ça Parce que c’est ça la vie Parce que c’est ça Parce que c’est ça la vie C’est la vie Toutes ses couleurs et ses parfums Ses roses damas et son jasmin C’est comme son Liban qui s’efface On croyait qu’elle voyait trop grand Qu’elle dessinait comme un enfant Pourtant c’est elle qui voyait loin Si c’est ça la vie Si c’est ça la mort Que ta tête fleurisse Fleurisse toujours Si c’est ça la vie Si c’est ça la mort Que ta tête fleurisse Fleurisse encore Parce que c’est ça la vie Parce que c’est ça Parce que c’est ça la vie Parce que c’est ça Parce que c’est ça la vie Parce que c’est ça Parce que c’est ça la vie C’est la vie Alors la vie regarde-moi ! Car je n’aurai plus peur de toi Avec des fleurs même en silence Elle me le dit Alors la vie regarde-moi ! Car je n’aurai plus peur de toi Avec des fleurs même en silence Elle me le dit Elle me dit danse ! Parce que c’est ça la vie Parce que c’est ça Parce que c’est ça la vie Parce que c’est ça Parce que c’est ça la vie Parce que c’est ça Parce que c’est ça la vie C’est la vie C’est la vie English [English] MIKA - C’est la Vie (Official Music Video).txt What is beauty ? What is ugly? What is fake? What is real? What does it all have to do with it What is it? What’s death? The lives before What’s rain? What about nice weather? What’s coming straight ahead? What are all these wrinkles On my face? Why do they come And betray my age Even if getting old is like a sinking What is it? What are all these flowers and her love? My brothers and sisters and their heavy hearts A closet locked so tightly Because that’s what life is about Because that’s what it is Because that’s what life is about Because that’s what it is Because that’s what life is about Because that’s what it is Because that’s what life is about That’s life All her colours and scents Her Damascus roses and her jasmine Like her Lebanon fading away We thought she was dreaming too big That she drew like a child In the end, she was the one thinking ahead If that’s what life is about If that’s what love is about May your head bloom And keep on blooming If that’s what life is about If that’s what death is about May your head bloom And keep on blooming Because that’s what life is about Because that’s what it is Because that’s what life is about Because that’s what it is Because that’s what life is about Because that’s what it is Because that’s what life is about That’s life So life, take a look at me! Because I won’t be afraid of you anymore With flowers even silently She tells me So life, take a look at me! Because I won’t be afraid of you anymore With flowers even silently She tells me She tells me to dance! Because that’s what life is about Because that’s what it is Because that’s what life is about Because that’s what it is Because that’s what life is about Because that’s what it is Because that’s what life is about That’s life That’s life Italian [Italian] MIKA - C’est la Vie (Official Music Video).txt Che cos’è il bello Cos’è il brutto Cos’è il falso Cos’è il vero Cosa c'entra tutto questo? Che cos'è? Che cos'è la morte Le vite precedenti Cos'è la pioggia Cos'è il bel tempo Cos’è che sta per accadere più avanti Cosa sono queste rughe Sul mio viso Perché appaiono Per rivelare la mia età Anche se invecchiare è un naufragio Che cos'è? Cosa sono questi fiori e il suo amore I miei fratelli e sorelle e i loro cuori affranti Armadio chiuso a doppia mandata Perché così è la vita Perché è così Perché così è la vita Perché è così Perché così è la vita Perché è così Perché così è la vita È la vita Tutti i suoi colori e profumi Le sue rose di Damasco e il suo gelsomino È come il suo Libano che sta svanendo Credevamo che pensasse troppo in grande Che disegnasse come una bambina Eppure era lei che vedeva lontano Se è questa la vita Se è questo l'amore Che la tua testa fiorisca Fiorisca sempre Se è questa la vita Se è questa la morte Che la tua testa fiorisca Fiorisca ancora Perché così è la vita Perché è così Perché così è la vita Perché è così Perché così è la vita Perché è così Perché così è la vita È la vita Allora vita guardami! Perché non avrò più paura di te Con dei fiori pur in silenzio Me lo dice Allora vita guardami! Perché non avrò più paura di te Con dei fiori pur in silenzio Me lo dice Mi dice di ballare! Perché così è la vita Perché è così Perché così è la vita Perché è così Perché così è la vita Perché è così Perché così è la vita È la vita È la vita Spanish [Spanish] MIKA - C’est la Vie (Official Music Video).txt ¿Qué es bello? ¿Qué es feo? ¿Qué es falso? ¿Qué es verdad? Qué tiene que ver todo esto ¿Qué es? ¿Qué está muerto? Las vidas que había antes ¿Qué es la lluvia? ¿Qué hay del buen tiempo? ¿Qué hay por delante? ¿Qué son todas estas arrugas ¿En mi cara? Por qué aparecen Y delatan mi edad Aunque hacerse mayor es un naufragio ¿Qué es? ¿Qué son todas estas flores y su amor? Mis hermanos y hermanas y sus corazones afligidos Un armario cerrado fuertemente Porque de eso trata la vida Porque eso es lo que es Porque de eso trata la vida Porque eso es lo que es Porque de eso trata la vida Porque eso es lo que es Porque de eso trata la vida Así es la vida Todos sus colores y sus perfumes Sus rosas de Damasco y su jazmín Es como su Líbano que se desvanece Pensábamos que estaba soñando demasiado Que dibujaba como una niña Pero era ella la que veía más allá Si en eso consiste la vida Si en eso consiste el amor Que tu cabeza florezca Siempre florezca Si en eso consiste la vida Si en eso consiste la muerte Que tu cabeza florezca Siga floreciendo Porque de eso trata la vida Porque eso es lo que es Porque de eso trata la vida Porque eso es lo que es Porque de eso trata la vida Porque eso es lo que es Porque de eso trata la vida Así es la vida Asi que vida, ¡mírame! Porque ya no te tendré miedo nunca más Con flores, aunque sea en silencio Ella me dice Asi que vida, ¡mírame! Porque ya no te tendré miedo nunca más Con flores, aunque sea en silencio Ella me dice ¡Ella me dice que baile! Porque de eso trata la vida Porque eso es lo que es Porque de eso trata la vida Porque eso es lo que es Porque de eso trata la vida Porque eso es lo que es Porque de eso trata la vida Así es la vida Así es la vida 🇵🇱 Polish [Polish] MIKA - C’est la Vie (Official Music Video).txt Czym jest piękno? Czym jest brzydota? Co jest fałszywe? Co jest prawdziwe? Co to wszystko ma wspólnego Co to jest? Czym jest śmierć? Życie przed Czym jest deszcz? A co z ładną pogodą? Co nas czeka? Co to za zmarszczki Na mojej twarzy? Dlaczego przychodzą I zdradzają mój wiek Nawet jeśli starość jest jak tonięcie Co to jest? Czym są te wszystkie kwiaty i jej miłość? Moi bracia i siostry i ich ciężkie serca Szafa zamknięta tak szczelnie Bo na tym polega życie Bo to właśnie to Bo na tym polega życie Bo to właśnie to Bo na tym polega życie Bo to właśnie to Bo na tym polega życie To jest życie Wszystkie jej kolory i zapachy Jej róże damasceńskie i jaśmin Niczym jej oddalający się Liban Myśleliśmy, że ma zbyt wielkie marzenia Że rysowała jak dziecko Koniec końców, to ona myślała o przyszłości Jeśli o to chodzi w życiu Jeśli o to chodzi w miłości Niech twoja głowa rozkwitnie I kwitnie dalej Jeśli o to chodzi w życiu Jeśli o to chodzi w śmierci Niech twoja głowa rozkwitnie I kwitnie dalej Bo na tym polega życie Bo to właśnie to Bo na tym polega życie Bo to właśnie to Bo na tym polega życie Bo to właśnie to Bo na tym polega życie To jest życie Więc życie, spójrz na mnie! Bo już nie będę się ciebie bać Z kwiatami nawet bezgłośnie Ona każe mi Więc życie, spójrz na mnie! Bo już nie będę się ciebie bać Z kwiatami nawet bezgłośnie Ona każe mi Ona każe mi tańczyć! Bo na tym polega życie Bo to właśnie to Bo na tym polega życie Bo to właśnie to Bo na tym polega życie Bo to właśnie to Bo na tym polega życie To jest życie To jest życie Korea [韓国語 (韓国) - Korean - Korea] MIKA - C’est la Vie (Official Music Video).txt 아름다움이란 무엇일까? 추함이란 무엇일까? 가식이란 무엇일까? 진실이란 무엇일까? 이 모든 것들이 다 무슨 의미일까 이게 다 무엇일까? 죽음이란 무엇일까? 그렇다면 전생이란 비는 무엇일까? 그럼 맑은 날씨는? 우리에게 다가올 미래는 어떤 것일까? 내 얼굴에 있는 이 주름들이 의미하는 것은 무엇일까? 왜 내 나이를 다 드러내는 걸까 나이가 드는 과정은 마치 가라앉는 것과 같아 도대체 무엇일까? 이 꽃들과 당신의 사랑이란 무엇일까? 내 형제자매들은 무거운 마음을 안고 벽장 안으로 들어가 문을 걸어 잠가버려 인생이란 그런 거니까 사는 게 그런 거지 인생이란 그런 거니까 사는 게 그런 거지 인생이란 그런 거니까 사는 게 그런 거지 인생이란 그런 거니까 그게 인생이야 그녀의 색깔과 향기들 다마스커스 장미와 자스민을 머금고 있어 레바논처럼 점차 흐려지고 있어 우린 모두 그녀가 헛된 꿈을 꾸고 있다고 했었지 마치 어린아이가 그림 그리듯 꿈을 그려나갔어 결국 멀리 나아갈 수 있는 건 그녀였어 삶이 바로 그런 거라면 사랑이 바로 그런 거라면 당신의 생각이 활짝 피고 또 끊임없이 나아가기를 삶이 바로 그런 거라면 사랑이 바로 그런 거라면 당신의 생각이 활짝 피고 또 끊임없이 나아가기를 인생이란 그런 거니까 사는 게 그런 거지 인생이란 그런 거니까 사는 게 그런 거지 인생이란 그런 거니까 사는 게 그런 거지 인생이란 그런 거니까 그게 인생이야 그러니 인생아, 날 좀 봐! 더 이상 널 두려워하지 않을 테니 꽃을 든 그녀는 속삭이듯이 내게 말해 그러니 인생아, 날 좀 봐! 더 이상 널 두려워하지 않을 테니 꽃을 든 그녀는 속삭이듯이 내게 말해 춤을 추라고! 인생이란 그런 거니까 사는 게 그런 거지 인생이란 그런 거니까 사는 게 그런 거지 인생이란 그런 거니까 사는 게 그런 거지 인생이란 그런 거니까 그게 인생이야 그게 인생이야 Japan [日本語 (日本) - Japanese - Japan] MIKA - C’est la Vie (Official Music Video).txt 美しさって何？ 醜さって何？ 偽物って何？ 本物って何？ これと一体どんな関係があるわけ？ それって何？ 死って何？ それ以前の生も 雨って何？ 良い天気って？ この真っ直ぐ先には何があるの？ 顔に刻まれた このシワって何だろう？ どうしてできるのかな 歳が分かってしまう 歳を取るのは緩やかに沈んでいくようなものだとしても それって何？ こういった花々や彼女の愛って何？ 我が兄弟姉妹たち、そして皆が抱える憂鬱な思い 厳重に鍵がかかっているクローゼット だってそれが人生なのだから だってそういうものだから だってそれが人生なのだから だってそういうものだから だってそれが人生なのだから だってそういうものだから だってそれが人生なのだから それが人生 彼女のあらゆる色や香り ダマスクローズにジャスミン まるで彼女のレバノンが消えてゆくように 彼女の夢は大き過ぎると僕らは思っていた 子供のように彼女が描いていた夢 結局、先を読んでいたのは彼女の方だった それが人生というものなら それが愛というものなら あなたの才能が花開きますように そして咲き誇り続けますように それが人生というものなら それが死というものなら あなたの才能が花開きますように そして咲き誇り続けますように だってそれが人生なのだから だってそういうものだから だってそれが人生なのだから だってそういうものだから だってそれが人生なのだから だってそういうものだから だってそれが人生なのだから それが人生 だから人生よ、僕を見て！ もうあなたを怖れたりはしないから 花々と共に、無言でも伝わる 彼女は僕にこう告げている だから人生よ、僕を見て！ もうあなたを怖れたりはしないから 花々と共に、無言でも伝わる 彼女は僕にこう告げている 僕に踊れ！って だってそれが人生なのだから だってそういうものだから だってそれが人生なのだから だってそういうものだから だってそれが人生なのだから だってそういうものだから だってそれが人生なのだから それが人生 それが人生 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBigFat Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szara. Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Today at work, C'est La Vie Mika was played on the Polish radio three times.It was nice to hear. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlotteL Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 20 hours ago, mellody said: "C'est la vie" can be interpreted in a positive way, it's all part of life, the good and the bad sides - but I always saw this expression more like a resignation, "that's how it is, just accept it" Oh wow that just hit me. Because I am definitely a pretty chill and "well that‘s life, just move on“ type of person which can be a big strength. But I have recently realized (and been told) that maybe it would be better if I allowed myself to accept and express my emotions from time to time 🙃 I think maintaining a good balance there is really important and to see the last part (Life is hard sometimes and we should acknowledge that but we also shouln’t be afraid of it) as the conclusion is a great interpretation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Ko Kolkowska Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 44 minutes ago, Szara. said: Today at work, C'est La Vie Mika was played on the Polish radio three times.It was nice to hear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBigFat Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 hours ago, CharlotteL said: But I have recently realized (and been told) that maybe it would be better if I allowed myself to accept and express my emotions from time to time 🙃 One of the first and Best things I ever learned in therapy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellody Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 Official lyrics video with English translations: I think there are a few little differences to what we had so far, at least in the translations. Does anyone feel like typing it off from the video? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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