Beautiful Disaster - Lyrics & Discussion

[Valmont69]

I'm remembering that also the set of Good Guys video is ispired by Lars Von Trier's movie Dogville.

And.. since Mika, yesterday, told that he will sing Beautiful Disaster at the XFactor final show, with Fedex, both nude... (if they reach a number of views on Youtube)

maybe he is ispired by Nymphomaniac movie where the characters are often nude. 

 

Well, I'm not sure that Mika or Fedex are that cultivated  

I think that for the "naked joke" he was more inspired by the glass of wine I saw during Xtra Factor    

[Valmont69]

I don't like very much the version of this song with Fedez, but I Like this video,I think it's very intense and catching,in my opinion it isn't depressing 

 

I Agree with you.

 

The production is a bit cheap, but the idea, even though not so original, is good.

The power of life despite the overcoming disaster: I find it not so pessimistic.

 

"La vita fa schifo, ma il panorama è bellissimo."

(Life sucks, but the view is so beautiful)

 

But maybe it's just the eternal "Is the glass half empty or half full?" question.

 

And I appreciate the effort so much.

 

Someone released a video like Relax, I mean...

[We-Are-Golden]

Something about Mika saying that he and Fedez were going to sing BD naked on the x-factor Nothing to be upset about, really, but some fans are apparently taking it very seriously.

 

Now thát would be fun  I also didn't knew what the joke was, but there are actually people taking that seriously?

[Hannekj]

Now thát would be fun I also didn't knew what the joke was, but there are actually people taking that seriously?

It sees like it, from what I've read on here, but idk

[dreams]

I'm in looooooove with the Mika only version!!!

But I hear different lyrics too, not the ones in the booklet.

[krysady]

The backstage video of Beautiful Disaster :

 

Edited December 7, 2015 by krysady

[Kumazzz]

https://twitter.com/Fedez/status/673978193569816576

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‏@Fedez

Noi mentre guardiamo le visualizzazioni del video di #BeautifulDisaster1Milione

 

[NikitaDelMar]

it happened many times, with many songs and for many artists/ musicians, etc.. to be confused / intrigued / dissapointed by a certain song . Later on i changed my mind; i discovered different point of view: the artist point of view or only the fact that THAT song got different meaning throwout my life experienced i went throw meanwhile (from the point i listen to it fist time to the point i reconsidered my opinion about that song )

So, don't jump to conclusions!

Sure your/ mine/ anybody's opinion doesn't hurt as far as are meant to be sincere.

[charlie20]

Something about Mika saying that he and Fedez were going to sing BD naked on the x-factor Nothing to be upset about, really, but some fans are apparently taking it very seriously.

 

Yes, they are insisting every day more and more and now also X Factor (It wasn't enough the "ship" invented by them), Elio, and Fedez is okay with it, obviously. A stupid joke now is become a promise, for them. Italians like very, very much trash. Welcome to Italy, dear Mika! Maybe now it's time to say again a loud NO (and learn to not talk nonsense in live television without thinking before). I really hope they too are joking (but the precedent of the completely groundless Batman and Robin's skit doesn't bode well) and/or he doesn't let people push him around, but we'll see what they and he'll do. 

 

It's not fun at all and I want to explain why. Until two/three years ago, Mika wasn't considered that much by the media and journalists in Italy, without much respect for him and his music, and their articles were full of the usual cliches about him. Then, after TOOL, but especially when they and the people, in general, saw his personality, his professionalism, his way of behaving, especially his class and his kindness, his sense of humor and irony, without vulgarity, also, and this is very important in Italy, his normality in being gay, things have changed. When there was the presentation of the Swatch designed by him and Yasmine, there was a service in a TV news, and among the many people there weren't only (young) girls, but many adults, and some of those interviewed said they were there because they liked Mika and he had conquered them because he was a genuine person, a good and clean (of behaviour) guy, a gentleman, as well as being a very good artist. And each time he's been a guest on the radio or on television, especially in RAI and LA7, and also with #rompiamoilsilenzio and his other social engagement campaigns, to inform about dyslexia and against bullying, we have seen and heard this, they like and respect him, media and public, not only the fans. He's promoting now his repack album with an important and beautiful symphonic album to prove to be able to do much more than "simple" pop songs. Why ruin this, and for what? For a trash performance in a trash duet with a popular rapper with a lot of teenage girls as fans (but who buy only Fedez's albums and songs and not Mika's music)? The final of XF, of what should be a serious TV show, will be broadcast also on CIELO and MTV8 and will be at the Forum in Milan, with a lot of public there, with VIP guests and more TV viewers. More adult public and adult media and press journalists who aren't his fans. We want him to be taken seriously as an artist, or even simply as a person, or not?

I see that there is a big difference between France (The Voice France, Le Prophète and Téléthon) and Italy. 

Edited December 8, 2015 by charlie20

[Christine]

Yes, they are insisting every day more and more and now also X Factor (It wasn't enough the "ship" invented by them), Elio, and Fedez is okay with it, obviously. A stupid joke now is become a promise, for them. Italians like very, very much trash. Welcome to Italy, dear Mika! Maybe now it's time to say again a loud NO (and learn to not talk nonsense in live television without thinking before). I really hope he doesn't let people push him around, but we'll see what he'll do. 

I would say Italy, welcome to Mika. This is not the first time he has made such a promise so I don't know what makes you believe that people are pushing him around. Have you seen the WAG video? Have you seen what he said at the time? http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a176090/mika-tempts-fans-with-naked-video-blog/

 

It's amazing how we can have such different perceptions of Mika. To me this kind of thing is totally in character for him whereas too much of what I've seen him involved with since XF strikes me as pretentious, vulgar and compromising of his artistry. I think if people watching XF can handle those hideous Valentino suits, they can handle his birthday suit.

Edited December 8, 2015 by Christine

[charlie20]

I would say Italy, welcome to Mika. This is not the first time he has made such a promise so I don't know what makes you believe that people are pushing him around. Have you seen the WAG video? Have you seen what he said at the time? http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a176090/mika-tempts-fans-with-naked-video-blog/

 

It's amazing how we can have such different perceptions of Mika. To me this kind of thing is totally in character for him whereas too much of what I've seen him involved with since XF strikes me as pretentious, vulgar and compromising of his artistry. I think if people watching XF can handle those hideous Valentino suits, they can handle his birthday suit.

 

Yes, I know about WAG video and the naked video blog's promise, which he didn't, but it was six years ago and now he has a completely different public image. Here I'm not talking about his fans, I'm talking about his public image and reputation that he has obtained/achieved in the last three years with the average public who aren't or weren't his fans and that didn't know him. This respect was obtained/achieved with a certain way of behaving in public, in television. Please, read the articles about him of the last years if you don't believe me. Italians like trash but are very moralists and they don't respect at all who does it, for example performances a la Miley Cyrus or something like that. And Fedez, he's now very powerful, because he's very popular and makes commercial music which sells a lot, he owns a record label and has a contract with Sony, the more powerful major here in Italy, so he has a big P.R. machine, but isn't very respected by the adult public and by most of the press. He can do what he wants, but Mika can't. It can even be funny, people can laugh, too, but the day after it, all the respect he had achieved so far in these two/three years will disappear, for many people and media/press (they are like vultures). Also let's not forget that Italy is a country unfortunately increasingly homophobic. And yes, this has a lot to do with the perception that people have of a person, rightly or wrongly. About Valentine suits he explaines many times what they represent. I agree with you about XF, but is also true that the show has greatly worsened since the production has decided to aim at an increasingly young audience, with things decidedly questionable, but so far Mika had managed to stay away from the vulgarity of it. Really a fish out of water, I would say. That's why I don't like to see this insistence and superficiality by his fans, now also by his colleagues and the production (see on twitter), to make him do something that will damage his public image and professional, because he has neither so many fans nor the sales, or the protection and power that Fedez has, the rapper who is making the "friend", but that takes the greater profit from this collaboration. Maybe it's strange but Italy and Italians are made in this way. This, and as things turned out this year in the competition for Mika and his team, are a big wake-up call for him and his Italian manager. I know Sky was a big sponsor, probably the most important, for Como concert, but if they don't offer him something better, where he can be an artist and promote his music, without stupid competitions, it's totally useless for him. I hope he understands it. In France it's totally another thing.

Edited December 8, 2015 by charlie20

[Christine]

Here I'm not talking about his fans, I'm talking about his public image and reputation that he has obtained/achieved in the last three years with the average public who aren't or weren't his fans and that didn't know him.

Why should Mika or anyone else care what the average public person thinks about him? After all this time someone either buys his music or they don't. He obviously doesn't care at all what the UK public and media think about him and makes all his decisions in opposition to that, so why should Italy be any different? If Mika has to pretend to be some kind of asexual to ingratiate himself to prudes and homophobes...f*ck 'em.

Edited December 8, 2015 by Christine

[tiibet]

I'm confused why this is such a big issue. It was just a joke he said without thinking too much and not even the first time. Surely they can figure out a suitable solution for it without making it trash? And I wonder how he feels about always considering what he can or cannot do and what it does to his public image. Why can't he be himself and people can take it or leave it. He is a professional and sensitive judge, it should be enough. 

[zia Giovi]

Yes, they are insisting every day more and more and now also X Factor (It wasn't enough the "ship" invented by them), Elio, and Fedez is okay with it, obviously. A stupid joke now is become a promise, for them. Italians like very, very much trash. Welcome to Italy, dear Mika! Maybe now it's time to say again a loud NO (and learn to not talk nonsense in live television without thinking before). I really hope they too are joking (but the precedent of the completely groundless Batman and Robin's skit doesn't bode well) and/or he doesn't let people push him around, but we'll see what they and he'll do. 

 

It's not fun at all and I want to explain why. Until two/three years ago, Mika wasn't considered that much by the media and journalists in Italy, without much respect for him and his music, and their articles were full of the usual cliches about him. Then, after TOOL, but especially when they and the people, in general, saw his personality, his professionalism, his way of behaving, especially his class and his kindness, his sense of humor and irony, without vulgarity, also, and this is very important in Italy, his normality in being gay, things have changed. When there was the presentation of the Swatch designed by him and Yasmine, there was a service in a TV news, and among the many people there weren't only (young) girls, but many adults, and some of those interviewed said they were there because they liked Mika and he had conquered them because he was a genuine person, a good and clean (of behaviour) guy, a gentleman, as well as being a very good artist. And each time he's been a guest on the radio or on television, especially in RAI and LA7, and also with #rompiamoilsilenzio and his other social engagement campaigns, to inform about dyslexia and against bullying, we have seen and heard this, they like and respect him, media and public, not only the fans. He's promoting now his repack album with an important and beautiful symphonic album to prove to be able to do much more than "simple" pop songs. Why ruin this, and for what? For a trash performance in a trash duet with a popular rapper with a lot of teenage girls as fans (but who buy only Fedez's albums and songs and not Mika's music)? The final of XF, of what should be a serious TV show, will be broadcast also on CIELO and MTV8 and will be at the Forum in Milan, with a lot of public there, with VIP guests and more TV viewers. More adult public and adult media and press journalists who aren't his fans. We want him to be taken seriously as an artist, or even simply as a person, or not?

I see that there is a big difference between France (The Voice France, Le Prophète and Téléthon) and Italy. 

I have a totally different preception of things. First of all, there have always been teenagers in Mika's audience, but a few years back he was considered in Italy almost a "radical chic" singer. I remember good reviews for all of his albums and his international background being constantly fostered, not to mention that he had a column on "XL" and was a guest at "Parla con me" (the host, Serena Dandini, is considered one of the main radical chic and feminist TV authors in Italy).

I'm actually quite happy he said that stupid "we'll sing it naked", and I'm happy he was rude to Fedez the week before.

It all gave me the feeling he's still alive and he's not playing a role anymore, since he has no more contestants and has nothing to lose. He's being genuine and spontaneous and I think this attitudine will bring him more audience in the end.

I am aware that teenagers are just curious and gossipy, and that maybe they are more interested in Fedez than in Mika, but we've all been teenagers before becoming grown ups so I cannot blame them for something that was started by someone else.

I don't know if Mika and Fedez will sing naked, but we are speaking about a TV show being aired at 9 p.m.: if they do something, it will probably be 10 seconds of their perfomance and in disguised costumes (do you remember Katy Perry all dressed in flowers?), they have stage designers, costume designers, makeup artists and everything's need in a TV show. You can be sure it will not turn into a porn thing and will not upset people at home.

[krysady]

Wow,such a big drama for nothing! I can't believe that some people can't enjoy a spontaneous joke    Moreover,I can't believe that someone could actually think he would do that for real    How on earth could this joke ruin his career and destroy his public image?? Why to see everything in black or white? He's not a monk,it's not the first time he's joking,nor the last,I hope. I see nothing trashy or vulgar about that,and I don't think that people will lose their respect for him,unless they have totally lost their sense of humor.

[Christine]

Surely they can figure out a suitable solution for it without making it trash?

 

I am trying to like your post but getting a weird error (I think I tapped it twice so it liked and then unliked and I can't like it again). So yes, I agree. I am imagining that whatever they come up with will only be embarrassing to Mika for its sillyness (not unlike many of the things that happen on these TV shows and indeed in Mika's own videos), rather than trashy a la Miley Cyrus.

[tiibet]

I am trying to like your post but getting a weird error (I think I tapped it twice so it liked and then unliked and I can't like it again). So yes, I agree. I am imagining that whatever they come up with will only be embarrassing to Mika for its sillyness (not unlike many of the things that happen on these TV shows and indeed in Mika's own videos), rather than trashy a la Miley Cyrus.

 

He has a good sense of humor, he can handle some sillyness   (or they will just forget the whole joke). Anyway, hope he will perform something on Thursday, whatever song it is. 

[Sabine64]

Fedez said 1 mio views in one day and there weren´t 1 mio views in one day especially the numbers were frozen for a day so even if it wasn´t a joke which it was they wouldn´t have to do it for  real. There is no reason to worry. Btw I don´t think Fedez would show himself naked. I think it´s funny to watch how they solve the situation

[Chloe940]

It was obvious for me that it was only a joke. I don't really understand all thoses dramatics reactions !   

 

Of course they will not sing it naked ! Moreover, it seemed Mika didn't know that they will sing it at the final   . I'll be happy if they do it (with clothes of course  ). 

[krysady]

Fedez said 1 mio views in one day and there weren´t 1 mio views in one day especially the numbers were frozen for a day so even if it wasn´t a joke which it was they wouldn´t have to do it for  real. There is no reason to worry. Btw I don´t think Fedez would show himself naked. I think it´s funny to watch how they solve the situation

 

I think the same.During the Xtra factor Mara told him that she is interested to see him naked,and he became really embarrassed 

[charlie20]

Wow,such a big drama for nothing! I can't believe that some people can't enjoy a spontaneous joke Moreover,I can't believe that someone could actually think he would do that for real How on earth could this joke ruin his career and destroy his public image?? Why to see everything in black or white? He's not a monk,it's not the first time he's joking,nor the last,I hope. I see nothing trashy or vulgar about that,and I don't think that people will lose their respect for him,unless they have totally lost their sense of humor.

Wow! I just made a comment and said only my opinion and then I answered to explain my point of view. But probably I can’t express myself very well in English and I admit that my explanations are too long. I apologize for this. And after this I’ll stop my comments because it became a polemic or a drama, even though I didn’t have any intention. I think I need to stay away from here and avoid commenting for a while in this forum. And I'll do it, for sure.

 

First of all, my first comment was that I was surprised to see the reactions of so many fans prey to hormones, who wanted to get to a million video views of BD, not because they liked the video or the duet song, but because they wanted to see him naked and the shippers because they wanted to see their “ship” naked together, also doing other "things" together. It's not me who said it, just go on twitter and read the comments. It's not me that don’t have a sense of humor, but those who took seriously a stupid joke of Mika, who immediately after realized that they had taken him at his word, he regretted it and said right away that he was not talking about the performance in the final. He didn’t say: “okay, next Thursday I’ll sing naked in front of everyone, that's a promise!”. What you said is exactly my point. They can certainly make an entertaining and funny performance, in fact, the song and the video are so joyful and fun! They'll certainly find something appropriate. I know very well Mika isn't a monk, as well as it’s evident that since 2012 he has a different and more mature public image, without forgetting his playful side.

 

My answer refers to what I read yesterday on the twitter account of XF, where they and his colleagues have pulled back out the thing, that I honestly thought it was already over. Read the comments there and tell me who is exaggerated. I'm glad they (XF and his collegues) were just kidding. And I explained why the thing, as some say, in my opinion it's not funny, based on what the average Italian tv public, who didn’t know Mika or who knew him only for a few songs, but also journalists and interviewers in media / press said or say about him. Those are their words, not mine. Or is it just me that heard Daria Bignardi, Fabio Fazio, Fabrizio Frizzi, Antonella Clerici, etc., interviewers in radio, talk about him in a certain way, especially as a person? they don’t follow him like his fans do, who follow him in everything he does or says in the various countries; they, by their own admission, formed their opinion about him through TV, his interviews on TV or in the press, in Italy. And once again, their words were/are very clear and they respect him because he is perceived in a certain way, for his behavior and his qualities. His voice and his songs were also there before, not these their opinions. This is about his public image as a person more than his career, but the two things are connected, I think.

And we're talking about the same average tv public and media who were scandalised because a famous showgirl in Sanremo Festival had a gown or a skirt with a slit up to the thigh and they could see her tattoo of a butterfly, or not? Where was their sense of humor? Boh!

 

You don't "see nothing trashy or vulgar about that,and I don't think that people will lose their respect for him". You don't see nothing trashy and vulgar about singing naked in a TV show? But there is really someone who thinks that to do a performance, singing naked, it's something to do on a TV show and then people see him as a serious/professional singer/artist, after it? Really? How many male singers/artists /or call them what you want, have you ever saw/watched who sang naked in a TV show (not on their videos and without being censored)? Tell me a name, please.

 

Am I the only one who remembers when Mika said: "The doors closed are opened with the work, not with scandals", "Instead of being afraid to get on my fans’s nerves/to be a pain in the a** with my fans, I hope to do it, because if I can’t do it here ... I'm not an artist that does it with photos of paparazzi on the beach, I'm an artist who wants to get on the nerves/ be a pain the a** and shock a bit my fans with musical gestures. I hope to do it, because this is fun." ?

The jokes are one thing, when he speaks seriously is entirely another matter. However, it’s obvious that anything he says or does is only his responsibility and no one else.

 

But you are right: the next time, instead of a symphony concert with a important orchestra and in important theaters, he can simply do a striptease on TV. It’s exactly the same thing. What's the problem?

Fedez said 1 mio views in one day and there weren´t 1 mio views in one day especially the numbers were frozen for a day so even if it wasn´t a joke which it was they wouldn´t have to do it for real. There is no reason to worry. Btw I don´t think Fedez would show himself naked. I think it´s funny to watch how they solve the situation

I think the same.During the Xtra factor Mara told him that she is interested to see him naked,and he became really embarrassed

Sure!This is funny. LOL! Thanks forse making me laugh. and since that I exaggerate, and you don't believe me, here are some gift:

 

http://invidia.pianetadonna.it/eventi/musica/fedez-nudo-video.html#/bestof_fedez_nudo_nel_video_clip_non_c_due_senza_trash__per_strada_da_solo__foto_1

 

http://video.corriere.it/fedez-prende-giro-barbara-d-urso-corre-nudo-rocco-siffredi/06a228ea-1449-11e5-896b-9ad243b8dd91

 

http://allsongs.tv/fedez/gallery/fedez-fidanzata-giulia-valentina-nudi-pubblicita-sisley/

 

http://www.spetteguless.it/tag/fedez-nudo/

 

 

 

 

This comments and my previous comments is/were only my opinion (about what other people say) and I think that I can say/write it, or not? And you, like everyone else of course, can say his opinion. But don't worry, anymore "dramas" about this, I will not comment anymore what people say on twitter. This is a promise I take a pause from this forum, for a while.

Edited December 9, 2015 by charlie20

[mamiam]

Charlie20 - You express your opinions, and point of view,  very well and easy to understand, in a clever and polite way!   You've made no drama  - just talked about your worries, for MIKAs public image, IF he should do stupid things - what's wrong with that!?   Isn't it just a natural care ?    I appreciate to learn more about Italy and MIKAs  public there- and both your translations from the  Italien press, and your own comments,   are very valuable, imo  I do hope your pause from this forum will be very short - otherwise I'll miss you A LOT!      

 

Love,love

me 

[Valmont69]

I would say Italy, welcome to Mika. This is not the first time he has made such a promise so I don't know what makes you believe that people are pushing him around. Have you seen the WAG video? Have you seen what he said at the time? http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a176090/mika-tempts-fans-with-naked-video-blog/

 

It's amazing how we can have such different perceptions of Mika. To me this kind of thing is totally in character for him whereas too much of what I've seen him involved with since XF strikes me as pretentious, vulgar and compromising of his artistry. I think if people watching XF can handle those hideous Valentino suits, they can handle his birthday suit.

 

  :naughty:  

[krysady]

First of all, my first comment was that I was surprised to see the reactions of so many fans prey to hormones, who wanted to get to a million video views of BD, not because they liked the video or the duet song, but because they wanted to see him naked

 

 

It is the first time when you read the comments of his fans on Twitter? Why to be surprised,when this kind of comments are filling his TL every day,every second?Do you think he is the only popstar who gets these kind of reactions? Have you seen him being bothered of those tweets,asking for help and protection from us? Why do we have to make such a big deal,if he doesn't?   Why to be so outraged and foresee a disastrous decline of his career just because of a joke? I don't get it 

 

 

charlie20, on 09 Dec 2015 - 03:24 AM, said:

You don't "see nothing trashy or vulgar about that,and I don't think that people will lose their respect for him". You don't see nothing trashy and vulgar about singing naked in a TV show?

 

If you read my post again,you'll see I was referring at his joke,don't twist my words   It has never ever crossed to my mind that he'd actually sing naked in a TV show,as I said already.

 

 

charlie20, on 09 Dec 2015 - 03:24 AM, said:

But you are right: the next time, instead of a symphony concert with a important orchestra and in important theaters, he can simply do a striptease on TV. It’s exactly the same thing. What's the problem? 

 

 

Again,you're missing the point. If someone makes a joke,it doesn't mean that this will happen for real.Do you remember Mika saying in an interview a few weeks ago that he'll get married with Fedez in London next January?  :rolls_eyes:

 

And about Fedez's video... it's one thing to shoot a scene for a video,and another thing to appear naked in a live TV show,imo.

 

But of course we have all the right to say our opinion,and I hope you are not upset about mine.We are here to discuss different points of view,even if we are not agree in everything 

[IngievV]

Am I the only one who is annoyed by the:

 

People are talking to themselves - they think they're talking to someone but they're talking to themselves.

 

Really Mika?